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Der Alte Rentner
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I had to kill some time this morning before heading out for an eye exam. So, I opted out of the shipyard and perused MSW Constitution builds ad nauseam instead. When I reviewed the Jeff Toma build, I had to ask myself, was this indeed the one I remembered? Though my recollection of where he left off doesn't quite jive, I must admit, this may have been the one. I would have cut the lower mast sections short and painted them before calling it quits, but here's hoping Jeff someday comes back to finish it. Once again, you're the go-to guy for Conny arcanity! -
Thank you Geoff. I'm glad I didn't have to cut off his talons..
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I see that the sails have some shape, and it's via rigging. What are the lines called that bow the sails to forward? I don't recall seeing such on the tall ship I sailed on. Bravo! Very nicely done.
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I assume you're using a good resaw blade on a bandsaw to get your boards. With a 1" resaw blade on my bandsaw, I can get really thin strips if wood as wide as 3 or 4 inches, depending on the hardness of the wood. The key is to run the board you just cut a piece off through a planer or thickness drum sander to completely flatten the surface before the next resaw. But how ever you make the boards, if you make the strips fairly long, a thickness drum sander is ideal for precise dimensioning. I've got a 16" Jet drum sander and it has netted me perfectly dimensioned thin strips. I had to run some of the wood that came with my Model Shipways kit through the sander to get them to uniform thicknesses. You might need to experiment to see just how thin you can go, but I'm pretty sure that you can easily produce stock for planking. You might want to reach out to Mustafa for advice, as I'm pretty sure he makes his own strips too. Well, you're off to the races. Congratulations, and again, welcome aboard.
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If you're going to double plank, you could skip the filler blocks, as you can do a lot of correction after the first planking. That's what wood putty Is for. And as you mentioned, the practice is worth the exercise. Make the second planking as thin as you can, would be the one thing I would suggest that this point. But you have a long way to go before you start planking, so I'm looking forward to seeing your first photos. Good luck and welcome aboard.
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Much prep work, staining, correcting. Despite very careful application of masking tape some stain still got underneath the tape and I'll be doing some more work trying to clean up the main hatch. But by and large I'm on the home stretch and can move on with construction. (I've got to figure out how to get consistent results from my phone camera..)
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Ace Hardware bass wood. Soak it long enough and use one of those converted soldering gun type plank benders - very carefully, and you can get very good results.
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I'm positive it was at model ship world. Well, unless it's only in my head.. 😁
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Can't wait to see the final pictures. Excellent workmanship, beautiful build.
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I feel even better now, after 2 hours of tweaking those moldings
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No, it wasn't Captain Steve, I remember seeing a photo of the completed hull on display on a bookshelf. Captain Steve never finished the hull. I appreciate the effort you're going through Jon, but it's really not worth it. Thanks for giving it the old College try, though. I promise, if I ever find it, I'll get back to you.
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Nope, it wasn't Mundie. I've been back through my entire list of "Followed Content" and simply cannot find the build I distinctly remember. The builder even commented at the end that he didn't have the time and space to continue and was calling it a wrap. Oh well, I was just trying to be helpful to another builder who might benefit from the info. Thanks for trying though. You're the man!
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Absolutely! BTW, the original isn't exactly perfect either. There are some kinks and the odd bend in her as well. And that second molding could be a tad thinner.. I might even be able to remove and do some surgery on the first one to make the two more symmetrical. I feel a lot better now. Thanks! 😁
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You're right on all counts. Yes, I will attempt to narrow the moldings a bit and the laser cut moldings were too wide and too thin. Also they were too scorched. By the time I sanded away the scorch marks, they would be so thin they would stand out like a sore thumb. The plans do show that the moldings are thinner than the ones I made, but I was trying to keep with the same thickness of the moldings under the gallery windows. And I will definitely sand out the kink marks. This goes to show how much attention you need to pay attention to details well down the road from the stage you're dealing with at the moment. (Here's where the veteran's experience comes to play.) The gunports are all on the same plane, but somehow the galleries may have been slightly misshapen? Working off the plans, I positioned the moldings on the galleries where they should have been, but to keep them parallel to the bottom of the windows, I missed the mark where the molding met the transom. It is what it is. Since I'm not going to be going for an exact replica (going with stain vs black and white paint, skipping the bulwark rivets, the nails on the deck, etc.) I'm not going to lose much sleep over this. Here's a thought, maybe I omit that last piece altogether? 🤔
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One step forward, one step back? It wasn't until I made a spacer to assist in adding the second curved molding on the transom that I realized that the three gunports are not flush with the second molding. I don't think I'm going to lose much sleep over it, I may just have the eagle perch covering part of the center gunport lid, and hope that no one outside of this August body questions it. Perhaps some tweaking will make this a less obvious flaw. Tomorrow's another day.
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Not at all! I had every confidence that you would know. I'm not at home now, so it's a little bit harder for me to check the site, but it could have been Mundie, if the old gray cells haven't let me down again. Thanks for digging through your archives. Best.
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I'll be very interested to see what kind of feedback you get at that rigging thread. I've done some Blue Water sailing aboard Schooners and one tall ship and can tell you that no Captain would have had rope coiled on the deck, especially under sail. Any excess excess would be coiled and hanging off a belaying pin. When I get back home, I'll check the photo albums to see if I happened to have caught any detail that would be appropriate to this discussion. Again, I'll be very interested to see the feedback on this subject. Excellent workmanship, however.
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Your citing the steering wheel reminded me of something I asked you when you were constructing the wheel on your Conny - Could I sub contract you to make me one too? (If I'm misremembering, apologies in advance), but in either case, If you're up to making a few more of these canopies, you've got at least one customer. 😁
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Hey Jon, Given as I've said many times, that you're this website's go to guy for Conny related info, may I ask? Do you know who build a very nice version of the Constitution but quit after completing the hull? I seem to remember the build included the lower segments of all masts and the bowsprit, but apart from the guns, there was no rigging.
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USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Der Alte Rentner replied to mtbediz's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Somehow, your photos make your model seem so much larger than scale. Perhaps it's the realism that you've achieved making me think I'm seeing a full sized construction. I'm in total agreement with those who've chimed in above. Excellent, beautiful and impressive workmanship. -
Ich glaube nicht, dass es in diesem Maßstab eine große Rolle spielt, welche Seilgröße Sie verwenden. Aus praktischen Gründen würde ich das wählen, mit dem man leichter arbeiten kann. Niemand wird Ihr hervorragend konstruiertes Modell betrachten und ausrufen: „Der Maßstab die Seileschlaufe ist falsch!“
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Well, it looks like my decision has been made. Here's how I left things at the shipyard today.
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Wow, Woodartist, long time no see? I check in periodically to see if you've gotten any further with Lady Isabella and Fifie, or if you resumed work on Conny. Unless I missed a shift to another project, you seem to be sidelined these days. Thanks for chiming in with your vote to stay with the stained finish. I guess I'm still headed in that direction, having I spent a couple of hours staining and applying clear poly to the port side today. Hope to see you back in action soon. Best
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Sollte ich jemals wieder in ein Flugzeug steigen, werde ich Ihr Angebot auf jeden Fall annehmen! Da mir heute bewusst wird, dass mein letzter Besuch in Ettlingen schon 32 Jahre her ist, muss ich meinen Boykott der TSA vielleicht noch einmal überdenken. Bis dann, muss ich stellvertretend durch die damals aufgenommenen Fotos leben. Die meisten von dieser Reise zeigen meine Familie, aber ich habe eines gefunden, dass ein Wahrzeichen enthält, das Ihnen sicherlich bekannt vorkommen dürfte.
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My mistake, The build I mistakenly attributed to you is the San Martin by Pfälzer. I apologize for confusing you with him Marcus. Looking back over a number of my posts, I can't understand where or how I became aware of Pfälzer's build log, let alone how I got the two of you mixed up in my mind, but his is the build I was referring to. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. As an aside, I have family very near Karlsruhe (Ettlingen) and I visited Karlsruhe some years ago on a visit to my uncle and cousins in the Black Forest. I have very fond memories of my time there. Here is a link to the San Martin build log I was referencing.
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