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EdT got a reaction from giampieroricci in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from Dubz in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from Elmer Cornish in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from Jeronimo in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from sonicmcdude in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from DORIS in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from butch in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from Wishmaster in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from robbl in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from avsjerome2003 in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Thank you for these comments and for all the "likes".
Yes the iron strapping was an anti-hogging measure. There were others - the heavy band of bilge ceiling, weight reduction at the ends of the ship by increasing spacing between frames and use of smaller timbers, massive keelsons, setting the foremast further aft, etc.
Hogging was certainly agravated by swells passing under the ship but a more fundemental cause was the very narrow lines at the bow and stern. This greatly reduced the flotation area of the hull at these ends and this put constant stress on the ends - even without waves. The long fine-lined clippers were more susceptable to this than many other types. The problem was never completely overcome in wooden ships.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from mtaylor in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from egen in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from SailorGreg in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from KennyH78 in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from jeff1395 in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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Part 46 –Inboard structural members continued
Work on the starboard side, inside of the hull, continued. The iron strapping on that side is complete, except for a bit of repair work. The first picture shows the use of an Incra rule taped to the paper cutter to assist in cutting the straps to accurate widths.
The sheet is first squared up on the cutter and then advanced 1/16” after each cut. The indexing holes on the rule could be used, but I found this unnecessary and rely on my eye.
Below is a picture of strips after slitting on the cutter.
Fortunately, these straighten out easily and quickly when held in a vise and pulled with pliers. After that they are blackened with LOS before installing. They are held in place with copper “riveted bolts” made from 22-gauge copper wire. These are more like nails, being pushed into a tight hole, then clipped off, then peened over with a small hammer – as shown below.
Once the strapping was finished, the deck clamps on this side could be installed back to the stern. The next picture shows a scarph joint being marked on the next piece.
Initially I fitted the next of these joints on the bench, but identifying them and keeping track became more trouble than doing it in situ – with equivalent results.
The next picture shows the right angle Dremel drill boring holes for the through bolts.
I don’t use this tool much. It is large and has a good kick when starting, but it is indispensable for drilling “normal” bolt holes down in the hull. I use it with a Foredom foot pedal speed control, plus the speed contol on the tool to keep the speeds low and to avoid it jumping out of the center-mark.
The 22-gauge copper wire used for the bolts is a sliding fit in the holes. An end is dipped in epoxy and pushed through the holes. The outside is then touched with epoxy and the wire pulled back in. These bolts are never coming out. They will be sanded off flush and those that are visible will be blackened later. Many on this side will be covered with planking.
Fastening the deck clamps is pretty easy work, but the 8 x 8 ceiling members at the turn of the bilge are another matter. The curve of the hull where they are placed can be seen in the next picture.
These require some serious clamping and long waits for the glue to set. I usually bolt them in place with the epoxy wherever possible before removing the clamps.
I am being extra cautious – as well as authentic – in the bolting through every frame because of the copper plates between the frames and the inboard members. I don’t trust the glue alone on these joints. The hull is now becoming extremely rigid.
The last picture shows a strake of bilge ceiling being attached toward the stern – intersecting with the lower deck clamp.
This picture also shows the strapping toward the stern. Not too much of it is damaged. I straighten our any problems as each wood member is added. Most of the strapping on this side will only be visible from outside the hull – through the frames.
And so it goes…
Ed
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Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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Since my last update I have applied one coat of wipe on poly which darkened the hull to a moderate degree.
The starboard gun port liners are now cut, painted brown, and installed. Two trim/molding pieces were fabricated and fixed to the edges of the lower balcony, as well as finishing the remainder of the decorative S braces between the upper and lower balcony. More decorations were fabricated and added to the stern section. Now to get busy and make the port side liners for a total of 92 rectangular gun port liners! -
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Build log part 9
time to do the hull outside rails, use semiround 1 x 2mm nutwood here
gives o nice border to the deck
get the parallel distance to the first rail
the Pins do`nt go through the rails, because of using CA here there would`nt be enough time for pushing the Pins in after Fixing the position
propshaft claddings attached
the lowest rail is the most tricky one
rails completed, hull not so naked anymore
this is the actual stand
Build log part 10 to follow....
Nils
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EdT got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Bellerophon 1786 by AON – scale 1:64 – 74-gun 3rd Rate Man of War - Arrogant-Class
Alan,
I am not sure what Steel pdf book you are referring to. the source you need is Steel's Naval Architecture, not the treatise on masting and rigging. I was not aware the Steel's Naval Architecture was available for download online. If it is, could you please provide the link. There are other sources for scantlings - the sizes of the timbers. In addition to Steel, there is The Shipbuilders Repository 1788. Both this and Steel are fairly rare and quite expensive. There is also Steel's Vade Mecum for the Shipbuilder which can be downloaded online. This not only has scantlings for a 74-gun ship, but also has instructions on preparing drafts. I would highly recommend reading these before you get too far with this. The Vade Mecum can be found at this link.
http://books.google.com/books?output=acs_help&id=pjcDAAAAQAAJ
Another source of dimensions is the original ship's contract which may be available from NMM. This document is also highly recommended if you are going to do your own plans. If the contract for Bellerophon is not available, one for one of the other Arrogant class should be identical.
Ed