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samueljr got a reaction from Nirvana in 18th Century Longboat by Tigersteve - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Steve
Just caught up on your LONGBOAT build. One of the best out here and the coolest presentation.
NICE!
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from coxswain in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The starboard side is (rough) planked up to the bottom of the rail.
It bears noting that even though pre-sanded, the commercially obtained basswood strips' thickness is inconsistant. They will be sanded progressively until a uniform and smooth surface is achieved. This will involve going thorugh about 4 - 5 grit levels to remove material and return an acceptable surface for finishing.
The gunport stripe and wales were finished in the same manner as the port side. The anchor stock planking joints once painted are passingly visable. Anything heavier would be structurally threatening to the ship!
Sam
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samueljr reacted to Tigersteve in 18th Century Longboat by Tigersteve - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Paint touch up and refinishing some parts before stropping blocks, seizing line, and creating rope coils. In the meantime, I have been planning the layout of all parts inside and out of the boat. I took my first reference photo. All parts are not included yet.
Steve
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samueljr got a reaction from zoly99sask in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The starboard side is (rough) planked up to the bottom of the rail.
It bears noting that even though pre-sanded, the commercially obtained basswood strips' thickness is inconsistant. They will be sanded progressively until a uniform and smooth surface is achieved. This will involve going thorugh about 4 - 5 grit levels to remove material and return an acceptable surface for finishing.
The gunport stripe and wales were finished in the same manner as the port side. The anchor stock planking joints once painted are passingly visable. Anything heavier would be structurally threatening to the ship!
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from robnbill in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Bob
Good to hear from you.
Great job on GRANADO (wouldn't expect anything less from you).
I'm trying a different approach to the build's appearance in regards to my approach to finishes.
From an engineeriing perspective the build is incorporating and blending some different methods.
The two longitudinal pieces serve a couple of purposes. Besides aiding in the initial alignment of the bulkheads they provide rigidity to the structure during planking. Because they are higher than the bulkheads the hull can be inverted for planking below the wales and/or coppering without risk to the structure.
They will be released along with the inner bulkhead tongues, like Syren’s (Chuck’s) 18th CENTURY LONGBOAT. In essence what began as a plank-on-bulkhead becomes a hybrid of sorts and morphs into a plank-on-frame with the entire inner belly of the hull wide open. Each deck level will be built sequentially (for the most part) Orlop upwards to Spar Deck.
The process/method arriving at the open hull is unlike any cross section available on the market (I think).
As far as being a kit – anything’s possible…………….
Thank’s for checking in – keep in touch
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Canute in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Joe
I've got about 2 dozen different colors (both marine and railroad) but no roof brown........ Sorry
Let me take a look at my drawer and I'll see what I can part with
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from robnbill in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Thank you to all the likes.
I am attempting to modify my building style on this project.
I am obligated to using basswood for a number of reasons, but am attempting to achieve a smoother finish than I have on previous builds.
Generally I embrace the grain of the wood (not the "fuzzies" so much) and allow the paint and/or stain to react natuarlly to the wood hoping to arrive at a more natural or realistic appearence. This time out I am sanding progressivly (although still not enough for some people) through 4 - 5 grit levels. I am also sanding (very lightly) between coats of paint which have increased from my normal 2 - 3 thin coats to 4 - 5 coats finished with a wipe on poly. It's producing a tighter result.
So far, so good ( I think)..............
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from coxswain in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Bob
Good to hear from you.
Great job on GRANADO (wouldn't expect anything less from you).
I'm trying a different approach to the build's appearance in regards to my approach to finishes.
From an engineeriing perspective the build is incorporating and blending some different methods.
The two longitudinal pieces serve a couple of purposes. Besides aiding in the initial alignment of the bulkheads they provide rigidity to the structure during planking. Because they are higher than the bulkheads the hull can be inverted for planking below the wales and/or coppering without risk to the structure.
They will be released along with the inner bulkhead tongues, like Syren’s (Chuck’s) 18th CENTURY LONGBOAT. In essence what began as a plank-on-bulkhead becomes a hybrid of sorts and morphs into a plank-on-frame with the entire inner belly of the hull wide open. Each deck level will be built sequentially (for the most part) Orlop upwards to Spar Deck.
The process/method arriving at the open hull is unlike any cross section available on the market (I think).
As far as being a kit – anything’s possible…………….
Thank’s for checking in – keep in touch
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Canute in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Thank you to all the likes.
I am attempting to modify my building style on this project.
I am obligated to using basswood for a number of reasons, but am attempting to achieve a smoother finish than I have on previous builds.
Generally I embrace the grain of the wood (not the "fuzzies" so much) and allow the paint and/or stain to react natuarlly to the wood hoping to arrive at a more natural or realistic appearence. This time out I am sanding progressivly (although still not enough for some people) through 4 - 5 grit levels. I am also sanding (very lightly) between coats of paint which have increased from my normal 2 - 3 thin coats to 4 - 5 coats finished with a wipe on poly. It's producing a tighter result.
So far, so good ( I think)..............
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Canute in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Bob
Good to hear from you.
Great job on GRANADO (wouldn't expect anything less from you).
I'm trying a different approach to the build's appearance in regards to my approach to finishes.
From an engineeriing perspective the build is incorporating and blending some different methods.
The two longitudinal pieces serve a couple of purposes. Besides aiding in the initial alignment of the bulkheads they provide rigidity to the structure during planking. Because they are higher than the bulkheads the hull can be inverted for planking below the wales and/or coppering without risk to the structure.
They will be released along with the inner bulkhead tongues, like Syren’s (Chuck’s) 18th CENTURY LONGBOAT. In essence what began as a plank-on-bulkhead becomes a hybrid of sorts and morphs into a plank-on-frame with the entire inner belly of the hull wide open. Each deck level will be built sequentially (for the most part) Orlop upwards to Spar Deck.
The process/method arriving at the open hull is unlike any cross section available on the market (I think).
As far as being a kit – anything’s possible…………….
Thank’s for checking in – keep in touch
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Omega1234 in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Bob
Good to hear from you.
Great job on GRANADO (wouldn't expect anything less from you).
I'm trying a different approach to the build's appearance in regards to my approach to finishes.
From an engineeriing perspective the build is incorporating and blending some different methods.
The two longitudinal pieces serve a couple of purposes. Besides aiding in the initial alignment of the bulkheads they provide rigidity to the structure during planking. Because they are higher than the bulkheads the hull can be inverted for planking below the wales and/or coppering without risk to the structure.
They will be released along with the inner bulkhead tongues, like Syren’s (Chuck’s) 18th CENTURY LONGBOAT. In essence what began as a plank-on-bulkhead becomes a hybrid of sorts and morphs into a plank-on-frame with the entire inner belly of the hull wide open. Each deck level will be built sequentially (for the most part) Orlop upwards to Spar Deck.
The process/method arriving at the open hull is unlike any cross section available on the market (I think).
As far as being a kit – anything’s possible…………….
Thank’s for checking in – keep in touch
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Omega1234 in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Joe
I've got about 2 dozen different colors (both marine and railroad) but no roof brown........ Sorry
Let me take a look at my drawer and I'll see what I can part with
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Omega1234 in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Thank you to all the likes.
I am attempting to modify my building style on this project.
I am obligated to using basswood for a number of reasons, but am attempting to achieve a smoother finish than I have on previous builds.
Generally I embrace the grain of the wood (not the "fuzzies" so much) and allow the paint and/or stain to react natuarlly to the wood hoping to arrive at a more natural or realistic appearence. This time out I am sanding progressivly (although still not enough for some people) through 4 - 5 grit levels. I am also sanding (very lightly) between coats of paint which have increased from my normal 2 - 3 thin coats to 4 - 5 coats finished with a wipe on poly. It's producing a tighter result.
So far, so good ( I think)..............
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from rafine in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Thank you to all the likes.
I am attempting to modify my building style on this project.
I am obligated to using basswood for a number of reasons, but am attempting to achieve a smoother finish than I have on previous builds.
Generally I embrace the grain of the wood (not the "fuzzies" so much) and allow the paint and/or stain to react natuarlly to the wood hoping to arrive at a more natural or realistic appearence. This time out I am sanding progressivly (although still not enough for some people) through 4 - 5 grit levels. I am also sanding (very lightly) between coats of paint which have increased from my normal 2 - 3 thin coats to 4 - 5 coats finished with a wipe on poly. It's producing a tighter result.
So far, so good ( I think)..............
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from CaptainSteve in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The port side finished being planked , sanded, painted and poly'd.
Starboard - just getting started.....................
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samueljr got a reaction from rafine in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The port side finished being planked , sanded, painted and poly'd.
Starboard - just getting started.....................
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samueljr got a reaction from robnbill in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The port side finished being planked , sanded, painted and poly'd.
Starboard - just getting started.....................
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samueljr got a reaction from coxswain in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The port side finished being planked , sanded, painted and poly'd.
Starboard - just getting started.....................
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samueljr got a reaction from zoly99sask in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The next step(s) on the port side is the run up of planking from the gun port stripe to the underside of the rail. This was accomplished in three steps;
First, four 3/64" x 1/16" strips were placed above the stripe arriving at the bottom of the spar deck gun ports.
Second, an assembly of 2 each 1/8" x 1/16" and 3/64 x 1/16" strips were glued together and then measured individually to fit between the gun port opennings. I find this easier than measuring and setting each individualy.
Third, two 3/64" stips were glued up to the unserside of the rail.
They will be cut/sanded to length, progressively sanded smooth and then finished with several coats of thinned paint and wipe on poly.
Next - repeat all planking above the wales on the starboard side................
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samueljr got a reaction from rafine in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
The next step(s) on the port side is the run up of planking from the gun port stripe to the underside of the rail. This was accomplished in three steps;
First, four 3/64" x 1/16" strips were placed above the stripe arriving at the bottom of the spar deck gun ports.
Second, an assembly of 2 each 1/8" x 1/16" and 3/64 x 1/16" strips were glued together and then measured individually to fit between the gun port opennings. I find this easier than measuring and setting each individualy.
Third, two 3/64" stips were glued up to the unserside of the rail.
They will be cut/sanded to length, progressively sanded smooth and then finished with several coats of thinned paint and wipe on poly.
Next - repeat all planking above the wales on the starboard side................
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samueljr reacted to gjdale in Making the best of ACTIVITY STREAMS and how to customize them/edit them etc.
Thanks Chuck - just what I was looking for!
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samueljr got a reaction from Canute in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
My thanks again to everyone for their interest and likes. The journey has just begun.
There has on several occassions been coment on the gun port alignment.
It could be the angle of the photographs (for that I apologize) but the ports are not in line.
Although they are not in the usual staggard sequence from deck to deck which most of us are used to, they are correct as per the source material (the drawings of the PRESIDENT after capture as per the Admiralty)
I've attached an image of the drawings used for the build here and will later this evening upload an image of the PRESIDENT's port alignment.
Thanks - Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Canute in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
THE PRESIDENT'S port alignment as per the Admiralty
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Canute in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Joe (Thistle17)
Yes, the acrylics were thinned as I was using them. A small dalop of paint was sqeezed out and my brush was dipped into water and then into the paint. Just a small portion of the paint was worked at a time until I had the consistancy that I wanted. Also if the paint went on a little too heavy I would wet brush it to spread it out. A gauge was that if I could see the paint filling in the joints between strakes it was too thick.
It's best to practice a bit on some scrap.
I too am a former Floquil user. I loved their solvent based paints and still have a quite a few left. I don't have much need for them as the color palette of my more recent projects have been limited.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Omega1234 in CONSTITUTION c. 1812 by samueljr - scale 1:76.8 - cross-section
Joe (Thistle17)
Yes, the acrylics were thinned as I was using them. A small dalop of paint was sqeezed out and my brush was dipped into water and then into the paint. Just a small portion of the paint was worked at a time until I had the consistancy that I wanted. Also if the paint went on a little too heavy I would wet brush it to spread it out. A gauge was that if I could see the paint filling in the joints between strakes it was too thick.
It's best to practice a bit on some scrap.
I too am a former Floquil user. I loved their solvent based paints and still have a quite a few left. I don't have much need for them as the color palette of my more recent projects have been limited.
Sam
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