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samueljr got a reaction from 42rocker in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Correction update............
I've assembled the redrawn set of bulk heads (including the former, rabbit strip, stem, keel and stern post)
A couple of "things"
The increase in slot width allowed the bulk heads to be inserted much easier
I was able to release all the parts listed above and the 22 bulk heads from their sheets (bass or plywood) with nothing more than an x-acto knife and a #11 blade. There was no damage of any part.
The assembly is drying up
I will start tomorrow to cross reference dimensions against the proto-type. Once satisfied with those then I'll lay up battens to assess fairness of the bulk heads. When doing that I'll also bevel the stern and bow as required and install bow blocks
That should take me through the end of the week or so.
Just an FYI - The plywood used remains at a heavier weight/thickness than the 3/16" used on the proto-type and represented in the drawings. The plywood supplied in the kit moving forward is at the discretion of Expo. The amendments I am making through the kit are a one time only exercise.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from mtaylor in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Correction update............
I've assembled the redrawn set of bulk heads (including the former, rabbit strip, stem, keel and stern post)
A couple of "things"
The increase in slot width allowed the bulk heads to be inserted much easier
I was able to release all the parts listed above and the 22 bulk heads from their sheets (bass or plywood) with nothing more than an x-acto knife and a #11 blade. There was no damage of any part.
The assembly is drying up
I will start tomorrow to cross reference dimensions against the proto-type. Once satisfied with those then I'll lay up battens to assess fairness of the bulk heads. When doing that I'll also bevel the stern and bow as required and install bow blocks
That should take me through the end of the week or so.
Just an FYI - The plywood used remains at a heavier weight/thickness than the 3/16" used on the proto-type and represented in the drawings. The plywood supplied in the kit moving forward is at the discretion of Expo. The amendments I am making through the kit are a one time only exercise.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Sjors in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Thanks Augie,
I see the proto-type and of course what beautiful work Bob is doing and I know what ESSEX can and should be - frustrates the hell out of me to have to do all this.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Sjors in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Bill
Yes they will be available from Expo. I dont know what process or method they will be using to distribute the corrections. I do know that they are holding off on shipping any new orders until the process plays out. In speaking with Marc we're shooting for no later than April (God willing) to have everything re-worked.
From there then the rigging kit. I don't know if the rig will be through Expo and or released from me (or maybe Syren)?..............
ESSEX has become to me akin to one of the "Labors of Hercules" from ancient mythology - As punishment from the Gods Hercules would push a huge boulder up a mountain and just as he reached the summit the boulder would slip and roll down hill and he'd have to start all over again.................LOL!
Sam
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Sjors in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Well the new bulk head assembly finally arrived this morning.
As I've said it's a total re-work of the build.
Here's what I can say right now;
Allowing for the heavier thickness of the plywood the slots on the bulkheads were increased
The tabs on all pieces were reduced and in most cases limited to one per piece
Additional vertical arm width was added to the first and last few bulk heads (#'s 1,2,3 & 20,21,22) to facilitate better/easier beveling
The vertical arms of the Quarter Deck bulk heads was extended to better allow for the loss of material from the laser cut
I'll assemble the set this week and check for fairness of frames and line
Report back soon
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from BareHook in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Bill
Yes they will be available from Expo. I dont know what process or method they will be using to distribute the corrections. I do know that they are holding off on shipping any new orders until the process plays out. In speaking with Marc we're shooting for no later than April (God willing) to have everything re-worked.
From there then the rigging kit. I don't know if the rig will be through Expo and or released from me (or maybe Syren)?..............
ESSEX has become to me akin to one of the "Labors of Hercules" from ancient mythology - As punishment from the Gods Hercules would push a huge boulder up a mountain and just as he reached the summit the boulder would slip and roll down hill and he'd have to start all over again.................LOL!
Sam
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from BareHook in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Well the new bulk head assembly finally arrived this morning.
As I've said it's a total re-work of the build.
Here's what I can say right now;
Allowing for the heavier thickness of the plywood the slots on the bulkheads were increased
The tabs on all pieces were reduced and in most cases limited to one per piece
Additional vertical arm width was added to the first and last few bulk heads (#'s 1,2,3 & 20,21,22) to facilitate better/easier beveling
The vertical arms of the Quarter Deck bulk heads was extended to better allow for the loss of material from the laser cut
I'll assemble the set this week and check for fairness of frames and line
Report back soon
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Jaxboat in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Thanks Augie,
I see the proto-type and of course what beautiful work Bob is doing and I know what ESSEX can and should be - frustrates the hell out of me to have to do all this.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Jaxboat in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Bill
Yes they will be available from Expo. I dont know what process or method they will be using to distribute the corrections. I do know that they are holding off on shipping any new orders until the process plays out. In speaking with Marc we're shooting for no later than April (God willing) to have everything re-worked.
From there then the rigging kit. I don't know if the rig will be through Expo and or released from me (or maybe Syren)?..............
ESSEX has become to me akin to one of the "Labors of Hercules" from ancient mythology - As punishment from the Gods Hercules would push a huge boulder up a mountain and just as he reached the summit the boulder would slip and roll down hill and he'd have to start all over again.................LOL!
Sam
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Jaxboat in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Well the new bulk head assembly finally arrived this morning.
As I've said it's a total re-work of the build.
Here's what I can say right now;
Allowing for the heavier thickness of the plywood the slots on the bulkheads were increased
The tabs on all pieces were reduced and in most cases limited to one per piece
Additional vertical arm width was added to the first and last few bulk heads (#'s 1,2,3 & 20,21,22) to facilitate better/easier beveling
The vertical arms of the Quarter Deck bulk heads was extended to better allow for the loss of material from the laser cut
I'll assemble the set this week and check for fairness of frames and line
Report back soon
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from gjdale in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Thanks Augie,
I see the proto-type and of course what beautiful work Bob is doing and I know what ESSEX can and should be - frustrates the hell out of me to have to do all this.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Jay 1 in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Thanks Augie,
I see the proto-type and of course what beautiful work Bob is doing and I know what ESSEX can and should be - frustrates the hell out of me to have to do all this.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Jay 1 in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Bill
Yes they will be available from Expo. I dont know what process or method they will be using to distribute the corrections. I do know that they are holding off on shipping any new orders until the process plays out. In speaking with Marc we're shooting for no later than April (God willing) to have everything re-worked.
From there then the rigging kit. I don't know if the rig will be through Expo and or released from me (or maybe Syren)?..............
ESSEX has become to me akin to one of the "Labors of Hercules" from ancient mythology - As punishment from the Gods Hercules would push a huge boulder up a mountain and just as he reached the summit the boulder would slip and roll down hill and he'd have to start all over again.................LOL!
Sam
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from Jay 1 in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Well the new bulk head assembly finally arrived this morning.
As I've said it's a total re-work of the build.
Here's what I can say right now;
Allowing for the heavier thickness of the plywood the slots on the bulkheads were increased
The tabs on all pieces were reduced and in most cases limited to one per piece
Additional vertical arm width was added to the first and last few bulk heads (#'s 1,2,3 & 20,21,22) to facilitate better/easier beveling
The vertical arms of the Quarter Deck bulk heads was extended to better allow for the loss of material from the laser cut
I'll assemble the set this week and check for fairness of frames and line
Report back soon
Sam
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samueljr reacted to Dan Vadas in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Thanks for the tip Mark, but it would have to be a VERY small chess set - the Crown is only 4mm high .
Pilasters
The final pieces of this jigsaw puzzle - the Pilasters. The first pieces I made were the Bases and Capitals. These were cut from a length of molded English Box :
The Columns were done in similar fashion, from long lengths of molded stock :
Some pics of the finished assembly ready for a coat of Minwax :
Danny
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samueljr got a reaction from mtaylor in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Thanks Augie,
I see the proto-type and of course what beautiful work Bob is doing and I know what ESSEX can and should be - frustrates the hell out of me to have to do all this.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from mtaylor in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Bill
Yes they will be available from Expo. I dont know what process or method they will be using to distribute the corrections. I do know that they are holding off on shipping any new orders until the process plays out. In speaking with Marc we're shooting for no later than April (God willing) to have everything re-worked.
From there then the rigging kit. I don't know if the rig will be through Expo and or released from me (or maybe Syren)?..............
ESSEX has become to me akin to one of the "Labors of Hercules" from ancient mythology - As punishment from the Gods Hercules would push a huge boulder up a mountain and just as he reached the summit the boulder would slip and roll down hill and he'd have to start all over again.................LOL!
Sam
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from mtaylor in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Well the new bulk head assembly finally arrived this morning.
As I've said it's a total re-work of the build.
Here's what I can say right now;
Allowing for the heavier thickness of the plywood the slots on the bulkheads were increased
The tabs on all pieces were reduced and in most cases limited to one per piece
Additional vertical arm width was added to the first and last few bulk heads (#'s 1,2,3 & 20,21,22) to facilitate better/easier beveling
The vertical arms of the Quarter Deck bulk heads was extended to better allow for the loss of material from the laser cut
I'll assemble the set this week and check for fairness of frames and line
Report back soon
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from JeffT in Essex - Process and corrections to the new Model Expo Kit
Bill
Yes they will be available from Expo. I dont know what process or method they will be using to distribute the corrections. I do know that they are holding off on shipping any new orders until the process plays out. In speaking with Marc we're shooting for no later than April (God willing) to have everything re-worked.
From there then the rigging kit. I don't know if the rig will be through Expo and or released from me (or maybe Syren)?..............
ESSEX has become to me akin to one of the "Labors of Hercules" from ancient mythology - As punishment from the Gods Hercules would push a huge boulder up a mountain and just as he reached the summit the boulder would slip and roll down hill and he'd have to start all over again.................LOL!
Sam
Sam
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samueljr reacted to rafine in Frigate Essex by Rafine - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Kitbashed
I took my few days off from coppering by doing the bulwark eyebolts and ringbolts. These are very small and I chose to use commercial eyebolts and rings. The parts are all brass and were finished with Birchwood Casey Brass Black. This is the first time that I have used that product (which has been recommended by quite a few on MSW) and I must say that it works better than any such product that I have tried before. Chalk up another satisfied customer.
The eyebolts are permanently glued in place. The ringbolts are just sitting in their holes and will be removed when I do the breeching ropes later.
I did one other small project. I made and installed the sliding doors from the great cabin to the quarter galleries. No reason to do them now except that I just felt like making something.
Back to the copper.
Bob
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samueljr got a reaction from trippwj in US Frigate Essex by trippwj - Aeropiccola - 1:70 Scale - POB
Wayne,
I know you'll do just fine. I have confidence in you and there are a world (literally) of great people out here willing to help
Sam
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samueljr reacted to trippwj in US Frigate Essex by trippwj - Aeropiccola - 1:70 Scale - POB
Thanks, Sam - that makes too much sense!
I am going to try for something close to "as built" but know that will include the use of many assumptions. One thing I am hoping to get from the various sources is an idea of where certain things were located - and also as an aid to working with the Aeropiccola plans. Ultimately, once I have the chance to compare the various sets of information, I'll be in a better position to plan out any changes I want to make to the kit. Looking at this as a long term project (figuring at least 2 years before I even start thinking about the rigging), and want to take the time to do this one right, hence having the references to cross check assumptions. Will see how that all works out, though!
Please keep checking in and offering insights - I am gonna need all the help I can get on this one!
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samueljr got a reaction from trippwj in US Frigate Essex by trippwj - Aeropiccola - 1:70 Scale - POB
Wayne,
Just a word of caution. Be careful using all those references. Pick one and stick with it. There is a lot less consistency between them then the casual observer would imagine. Even Portia is not consistent between her framed model and the AOS book.
There was an article about 20 years ago in the Nautical research Journal that discussed this topic.
What it basically illustrated was that Portia, Baker, (it included Stevens who did the old Shipways' plans) and I think the Aero kit all claimed to "copy" Hacket's draught but all differed from it (some significantly) and none were the same with each other.
If you use all the sources together you'll on occasion reconcile a dimension or detail but you'll end up creating an ESSEX that never existed.
Pick one source, pick one time period and go with that.
When I was researching/developing ESSEX for Expo we had several conversations regarding possibly acquiring the Aero plans as a start. To my best memory they were considered accurate to Baker's work (I think).
The article from the NRG was lost in a flooded basement. I have the NRG discs and will try to find it for you.
Also there is a very brief caveat at the opening of the Essex Papers that says to the effect that the reader should be careful of using the contained information for modeling purposes. I never see that referenced though........
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from AStevenson in 18th Century Longboat by samueljr - FINISHED
Well I'm Done!
Here are the final pics of this delightful little project............
I thought about listing all the changes/substitutions/additions/subtractions I made but that was turning out to be a rather long list. So, if anyone has any questions about a particular aspect feel free to ask.
I will say just a couple of things;
First everyone should build something out of their usual subject matter on occasion. It's refreshing. It's also a chance just to relax without worry of screwing up months (if not years) of work and expense. Sometimes we get too hung up on Frigates and scarph joints and nail holes and wood types and guns and every other large and (extremely) small details found out here that we just forget to have fun.
As a lot of you know I'm going through a (trying) time with a Frigate that will go unnamed and I found this side project to be just the diversion needed to remind just how much fun I have building for building sake. She's not perfect (far from it) but I'm just as proud of her as any of my builds that have a ribbon or medal to their credit.
Also it gave me the chance to correspond with some new and great people on MSW that I generally wouldn't be in contact with for any number of reasons. There are some really super folks out here.
Last but not least THANKS to Chuck for a great idea and kit design.
Sam
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samueljr got a reaction from fnkershner in Frigate Essex by Rafine - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Kitbashed
Augie
The dull coat worked great (as far as I'm concerned)
here's a couple of pics of ESSEX after being dulled..............
compare then to the non dull shots of Bob's
Sam
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