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jo conrad got a reaction from Castos in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from EdT in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed and Sailor,
I can´t imagine any other solution to the question of the interfering booms, jackstays and head bolt-ropes but to change their respective positions on the yards : booms to move a bit back and up to the forward-1 o´clock position and jackstay forward and down to about 3 o´clock, i.e. out of the way of boom irons ; to avoid visual confusion : all seen from the starboard yard-arm across the yard to the port yard-arm. No sail could have been bent on or furled with the irons in the way of the head bolt-rope. For bending on, reefing and furling sails the booms had to be triced up out of the sailors´ way. I think this arrangement was in praxi the only manageable way to handle the sails on these yards.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from mtaylor in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed and Sailor,
I can´t imagine any other solution to the question of the interfering booms, jackstays and head bolt-ropes but to change their respective positions on the yards : booms to move a bit back and up to the forward-1 o´clock position and jackstay forward and down to about 3 o´clock, i.e. out of the way of boom irons ; to avoid visual confusion : all seen from the starboard yard-arm across the yard to the port yard-arm. No sail could have been bent on or furled with the irons in the way of the head bolt-rope. For bending on, reefing and furling sails the booms had to be triced up out of the sailors´ way. I think this arrangement was in praxi the only manageable way to handle the sails on these yards.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from bhermann in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from douglaspbrown in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from Piet in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from BANYAN in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from rybakov in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from druxey in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from EdT in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing.
A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman.
I remember him well to this very day.
Greetings to you all
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from mtaylor in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse-(short KWdG)-1897-1914-by Nils Langemann - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line - FINISHED
Hallo NIls,
Colonel Pickering to Prof. Higgins in "My fair Lady":
" Youuuu DID it !
And you did it within two years !
Alter Falter !
Herzlichen Glückwunsch ´rauf nach Glinde !!
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from Omega1234 in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse-(short KWdG)-1897-1914-by Nils Langemann - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line - FINISHED
Hallo NIls,
Colonel Pickering to Prof. Higgins in "My fair Lady":
" Youuuu DID it !
And you did it within two years !
Alter Falter !
Herzlichen Glückwunsch ´rauf nach Glinde !!
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from Martin W in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse-(short KWdG)-1897-1914-by Nils Langemann - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line - FINISHED
Hallo NIls,
Colonel Pickering to Prof. Higgins in "My fair Lady":
" Youuuu DID it !
And you did it within two years !
Alter Falter !
Herzlichen Glückwunsch ´rauf nach Glinde !!
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from Mirabell61 in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse-(short KWdG)-1897-1914-by Nils Langemann - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line - FINISHED
Hallo NIls,
Colonel Pickering to Prof. Higgins in "My fair Lady":
" Youuuu DID it !
And you did it within two years !
Alter Falter !
Herzlichen Glückwunsch ´rauf nach Glinde !!
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from Capt.Bob in Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America 1853
Hi Daves,
when I saw Ed´s inside-strapping of the 1/72 YA, I felt a bit confused :the revolutionary idea behind the installing of an iron "net" to the frames of composite clippers has been to strengthen the wooden hull by double-diagonal iron straps against warping and hogging and any other deformation by wind and sea. At least to my limited and more or less intuitive understanding of mechanical forces, this could only be achieved by bolting a net of these straps all around the outside of the hull like a string bag, thus absorbing and counteracting the flexing and compressing forces on the ship´s body by transforming them into tractive forces induced into the straps at the outside. The strapping installed at the inside of the frames would mainly pull and sheer at the fastening bolts and thus loosen them after a while, but in my opinion it can not keep the hull straight. My example of a string-bag keeping your shoppings together is maybe not so bad a picture.
As I wasn´t 100% sure about that, and because Ed is of course by far deeper in this business than me, I didn´t want to be precocious and kept this thought to myself. But to me it still seems to be the logical way of reinforcing a wooden - and of course - an iron hull.
Greetings to all.
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from mtaylor in Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America 1853
Hi Daves,
when I saw Ed´s inside-strapping of the 1/72 YA, I felt a bit confused :the revolutionary idea behind the installing of an iron "net" to the frames of composite clippers has been to strengthen the wooden hull by double-diagonal iron straps against warping and hogging and any other deformation by wind and sea. At least to my limited and more or less intuitive understanding of mechanical forces, this could only be achieved by bolting a net of these straps all around the outside of the hull like a string bag, thus absorbing and counteracting the flexing and compressing forces on the ship´s body by transforming them into tractive forces induced into the straps at the outside. The strapping installed at the inside of the frames would mainly pull and sheer at the fastening bolts and thus loosen them after a while, but in my opinion it can not keep the hull straight. My example of a string-bag keeping your shoppings together is maybe not so bad a picture.
As I wasn´t 100% sure about that, and because Ed is of course by far deeper in this business than me, I didn´t want to be precocious and kept this thought to myself. But to me it still seems to be the logical way of reinforcing a wooden - and of course - an iron hull.
Greetings to all.
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from Canute in Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America 1853
Hi Daves,
when I saw Ed´s inside-strapping of the 1/72 YA, I felt a bit confused :the revolutionary idea behind the installing of an iron "net" to the frames of composite clippers has been to strengthen the wooden hull by double-diagonal iron straps against warping and hogging and any other deformation by wind and sea. At least to my limited and more or less intuitive understanding of mechanical forces, this could only be achieved by bolting a net of these straps all around the outside of the hull like a string bag, thus absorbing and counteracting the flexing and compressing forces on the ship´s body by transforming them into tractive forces induced into the straps at the outside. The strapping installed at the inside of the frames would mainly pull and sheer at the fastening bolts and thus loosen them after a while, but in my opinion it can not keep the hull straight. My example of a string-bag keeping your shoppings together is maybe not so bad a picture.
As I wasn´t 100% sure about that, and because Ed is of course by far deeper in this business than me, I didn´t want to be precocious and kept this thought to myself. But to me it still seems to be the logical way of reinforcing a wooden - and of course - an iron hull.
Greetings to all.
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from butch in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-))
and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book.
Chapeau !
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from druxey in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-))
and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book.
Chapeau !
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from EdT in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-))
and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book.
Chapeau !
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from Piet in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-))
and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book.
Chapeau !
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from mtaylor in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-))
and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book.
Chapeau !
Germanus
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jo conrad reacted to EdT in Young America extreme clipper 1853 - 1:96 POB model by EdT - Finished
The Book is out!
I hope I may be permitted some euphoria over the publication of Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America, Volume I. It took a lot of effort by Sea Watch Books and me to get this to market this year. There were times early in the year when the amount of modeling and writing required to meet this deadline seemed insurmountable. All the generous and supportive responses to the two build logs on this site helped us keep our nose to the grindstone.
The picture below of the book and its supplementary material hardly does justice to Derek Gardeners beautiful rendering of Young America on the Irish Sea on a winter’s morning as she approaches Liverpool – but it does serve as proof that the book is in print. I have examined every inch of this first copy and am delighted with the result. We hope you will be as well.
As I did with the Naiad books, I will start a topic in the book review section for comments, questions, addenda, and what I hope will be very few corrections. In the meantime, this posting on each of the two build logs will at least serve notice that the book is out.
Thanks again for all your support.
Ed
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jo conrad got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-))
and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book.
Chapeau !
Germanus
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jo conrad got a reaction from GLakie in Young America by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper 1853
Hello Ed.
Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-))
and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book.
Chapeau !
Germanus
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