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The next issue on the Mary is to fix the positioning of these fittings that work like cleats or kevels. Does anybody know the proper term for these Dutch belaying points? These fittings were mounted so low on the bulwarks that there was no room to wrap lines around them. I had to debond the glue that was used on them, which was some kind of rubbery adhesive. It made them easy to remove, but left a lot of rubbery glue spots and some hard to remove residue on the model. I did what I could and re-attached the fittings with thick CA glue. This allowed me to finally rig the lines for hauling up the lee boards. Rope coils to come later. Looking ahead at rigging the vangs, I noted that an image of the Utrecht reconstruction showed small pin rails at the bulwarks, aft. So, I added those to the Mary. I didn't have a whole lot of room to do this, as the forward wall of the stern cabin is about an 1/8" further forward than the plans show. This was an adjustment made by the original modeler. Made the spacing a little tighter, but I think the new pin rails should be okay.
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Gregory, I just used them right out of the bag. There is some color variation between batches of blocks. But, not enough to worry about. I'm very happy with the deadeyes. Also, the 3D printed stuff seems pretty sturdy. I've had wooden blocks split when trying to wire strop them. But, not the 3D printed blocks.
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Thank you, Patrick. Her death has been really hard to take, we were very close. Two weeks ago, I was going crazy and decided that while I could never replace her, I needed to do find someone to take over her job at least. So, I adopted this little boy kitty from the animal shelter to serve as my new ship modeling supervisor and kitty overlord. I named him Sebastian, and he's been helping out a lot. It's taken him this long to get used to me, but we're managing pretty well now.
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I've been having a really hard time working on my ship modeling projects. I started this topic a few days after my dearest kitty cat, Sierra, passed away. She'd been seriously sick for a couple weeks and couldn't hang on. I ended up having to work a lot extra to pay for her vet bills, plus had a hard time concentrating at home. So, things progressed very slowly, even though at times I thought things were getting better. Now, maybe they are getting better. I don't know. But, I did compile some of the work I've managed to accomplish over the last two-and-a-half weeks... I set the sails aside and started working on the main hold-up on this model, which is the making of chainplates. Once these are made, the shrouds can then be dealt with. It’s been a long time since I’ve made decent chainplates. On the Charles yacht model, they are simple wires that wrap around the deadeye and the bottom ends are inserted straight into the hull. I wanted something a little more sophisticated. So, I created chainplates from brass wire that are soldered to form flat plates with a loop at the bottom end for a nail. Took me a while to consitently form brass wire into the right shape. For this, I had to make a little fixture with a piece of brass rod for the big loop (for stropping the deadeye) and a hard, stainless steel pin for forming the small loop for the nail. It’s also been a long time since I’ve done much silver solder work, and I couldn’t find my silver solder and flux, so I had to buy more. I was sure I had some somewhere, but I guess it was hidden away somewhere some time ago. The soldering process turned out pretty well as you can see below. After soldering and cleaning up the new chainplates, I blacked them, starting by soaking them in vinegar (acetic acid) solution, rinsing them off, and them soaking them in a dilute solution of BlueJacket’s Brass Black solution. I find that BlueJackt’s metal toners work the best of any metal toners I’ve used over the past 30 years. Deadeyes are 5mm, 3D printed resin deadeyes sold by Syren Ship Model Company.
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Yes, The Pilot Boat 'Phantom' Menace
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It's interesting to note another deviation from the Mamoli plans – there are no sheet blocks attached to that large topsail spreader yard. The sheet blocks are attached directly to the sail, and they "ride up" the braces. Means no need to have belaying points for the topsail sheets, and no sheet block slung under the spreader yard either. I've also noted there is no place to belay the vangs. The Utrecht reconstruction looks to have small pin rails on the bulwarks, near the tackles. Saw that on a photo somewhere, but don't see it now.
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Gregory, I wouldn't kick yourself about the reef points on your model. Certainly not due to presence of brails, which served a different purpose than reef points. In fact, there's a passage in Brian Lavery's book Royal Yachts Under Sail, that mentions the later yacht Fubbs, stating "Fubbs was old-fashioned in 1719 in using a "bonnet", an extra strips of canvas fitted under a sail to increase the area, in this case of the jib. But, she also carried the means to reef the mainsail." So, if we are to believe Lavery's work, there would be evidence of both bonnets and reefs on small ships of the era, as pointed out by Patrick in the photos of the Utrecht reconstruction. (Thanks Patrick!)
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Hi Gregory, those are the brails, and they should be correct. In fact, its been my plan to show the mainsail "brailed up" like in this image. The painting, however, does show the line of what appears to the lacing of a bonnet. I'm reposting your image with a blue arrow pointing to the feature. The following painting by De Man shows something similar, again, I point to with a blue arrow. So, if that's not a bonnet lacing, I don't know what it is. Just a reinforcement seam of some kind?
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I'm jumping ahead now and working on the sails. At this scale, I'm going to stick with my practice of making cloth sails. I've made many sails from cloth, but still experimenting a little here and there to get the technique to work just the way I'd like. However, the issue here is the make up of the main sail. If you look at the sail pattern, the mainsail shows a row of reefing points. My last Charles Yacht model had a bonnet. Not sure what is correct, but thought I'd put this question out here. The Royal Museums Greenwich website shows a model of the Mary with reefing points in the main and stay sails, no reef bands, and a row of holes in the sails. One for each reef point? Of course, I could just stick with the Mamoli instructions and add these reef points to the main sail, which I might just do, since It's simpler than lacing a bonnet anyway. Just wondering what might be correct? Also, since I'm more accustomed to later period ships, and mostly larger ones, if the forward most shroud and mainstay should be served? Also the eyes of the shrouds around the masthead? Of course, kit instructions never tell you to do this, even if it was actual practice. Here, I'm not so sure about. Seems to me that since there isn't much to chafe against, the foremost shroud would not be served. But, at the mast head? And the main stay? Again, since this is mostly a continuation of the original builder's model, I'm sure he would not have done any serving, so just going by the kit instructions is a safe route. But, I'd like to better understand this.
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Thanks Patrick, I appreciate the nice comments. I had a bit of a slowdown over the past week, but I think I should be on a more regular ship modeling schedule again. Here's the most recent progress I made on the Yacht Mary. The lee boards were already made, but there was no pivot for it, so I drilled them out, as well as the hull, to fit a small length of dowel. Also assembled the anchors and cleaned up the anchor stocks. I used black thread to wrap the stocks. I think I need better lighting, because I had a hard time seeing that the wrapping wasn't particularly straight. But, I did manage to wrap the rings on the anchors without too much problem, and then added the anchor cables. When I first received the model, it had the hull ladders still intact. But, in the process of going to another ship modeler and then back to me, the ladders got broken. So, I had to remove them completely and rebuild them. I'm not really happy with the new ladders, because of the way they had to curve slightly under the hull. I'm not sure if that's because of the way the hull was built, or if perhaps they're not supposed to actually be flush with the hull as these will be. I suppose they should be straighter, but on this model, they would end up flaring out from the hull at the ladder bottoms, which would seem stranger to me. I didn't do much to the guns and carriages, except to paint them. They carriages were initially natural wood color, and the barrels were painted black, but were chipped. So, I painted the carriages and barrels, and then took a length of line, and threaded them through the carriages for breechings. Note that this is the style of Dutch gun carriages, but the Mary was Dutch built, so this should be correct. Not sure at this point if I'm going to add gun tackle and train tackle. Finally, I added the remainder of the decorative piece at the stern. It was a bit of a challenge to fit these parts, and the work left some notable gaps. But, I think it looks okay. I'm starting to work on cleaning up the already made spars, and fashioning flag staffs. I've also decided to use Chuck's ULTRA rigging line and 3D printed blocks and deadeyes on this one.
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Gregory, I don't think you're cluttering up this log at all. I'm mostly just sharing about the model I received and how it's getting finished over time. I'm not demonstrating any special techniques or trying to illustrate anything special, other than to show that I'm actually doing something! 😀 Thanks for sharing the link to Lloyd McCaffery's model. Such beautiful work!
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Here's some of the first work I did on the model. I decided to add a little more color to the model, so I painted the bulwarks the same shade of red I used on my Charles royal yacht. I'm doing the same with the gun carriages. Part of the reason is that the bulwarks wood was a bit splintery, and there were issues apparently when the builder was cutting the round gun ports. Also, I didn't like the way that Mamoli had the caprails built up from layers of strip wood. It must have made construction easier, but the visible layers of wood seemed distracting, so I went ahead and painted those as well as the moldings around the decorative section of the bulwarks and the channels. I considered using a strip of light colored wood over the moldings and maybe the edge of the caprail, but decided not to, at least not at this time. I rebuilt the chimney that's just behind the windlass, added the decorative hawse pieces at the bow and drilled the hawse holes. The gun ports were a bit of a challenge, as some of them didn't line up correctly. Another reason I chose to paint the bulwarks, so I could hide any corrections. The round ports on one side had only been started, so they were too small. But, a bit of filing opened them up and adjusted their heights and alignment. Decided that the model was far enough along to safely mount it. I didn't want to use the included stand. Those things are usually too flimsy and don't provide a means to really secure the model to the base. I just used the classic brass pedestals. That little deck structure hasn't been permanently attached yet. I want to add the guns before I permanently fix it to the deck. Oh, and on that and on the stern cabin, I added acetate for the windows, which were left open by the original builder. I think I just used canopy glue to secure them into place. Yes, before you comment on it, that gap between the rudder and stern post is... well, it's too large. After repairing the rudder and the rudder irons, I left it the way it was originally built. If it bothers me too much, I may just clip off the stuff in between, fake the hinges, and pin the rudder to the hull. Just haven't felt the need yet. Lastly, I saw some photos of other Yacht Mary builds and really like the splash of color painted on some of their transoms. So, I went ahead and added some color to this one. I'm not sure if I can handle painting any better detail, but I may try. Just not really ready for it yet. I considered doing more, but I really just wanted it to have a little bit of color. Any more, and I might feel the need to paint too many other details as well. Again, this is not intended to be an "accurized", and I'm trying not to undo too much of what the original builder did. But, as far as kit-built models go. It is started to look rather nice, and I'm happy about that.
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Gregory, thanks for that link, some beautiful photos of that model there. I wish I knew more about the small details of Dutch ships. I know there are various resources to draw from, but it seems you really have to dig around and research. A little more involved than I want for finishing this model. I'll hang onto my unstated Yacht Mary kit for now (though I'm trying to thin out my model kit stash), and maybe someday I'll work on my own model from the start and incorporate those details.
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Hey everyone. My apologies for the extended break. I ended up with plans to finish up a model that was started by a ship modeler who passed away a couple years. It's the Yacht Mary, and with the completion of my Charles Royal Yacht, I figured I could wrap this one up pretty quickly. It's come along pretty well, and I'm hoping to finish it in the next month or two. It's my intention to begin resuming my HMS Wolf build immediately after that, or even a bit before the Mary is done. It won't be that long, as I'm just starting work on the Mary's sails now: Back soon!
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Those following my HMS Wolf card model build may be wondering where I disappeared to. So this is what I've been doing for the past couple months. A couple years ago, I bought a Mantua/Sergal Sovereign of the Seas kit, unstarted, at an estate sale. I guess the sellers were so happy to move the kit that they threw in a partially started Amati Prince (yes, the rare, and huge Amati Prince in the wooden box), and this partially completed Yacht Mary. Having recently completed Woody Joe's Charles Royal Yacht, and having so enjoying modeling a royal yacht, I was interested in working on this new acquisition. But, the model left my possession for another modeler to work on. But, over time, I thought about how the original builder, a Mr. Richard Fletcher who lived up near Placerville, CA, was building this as a wedding present. I didn't know the man or the details of who it was supposed to be fore, but I didn't know that the builder's widow really wanted to know that her late husband's models were being continued. Later on, finding out that the modeler I had passed this onto was turning into some random fantasy ship, I decided to try to rescue it, with the intent of finishing the model and presenting it back to the Mr. Fletcher's widow. So, with my new plans, I managed to get the model back, and start working on it. My intent is not to make a perfect model of the Mary, nor a perfect model of a Dutch yacht. Rather, it's to essentially take Richard Fletcher's work and to continue the model to completion without changing too much. That's not to say I would avoid ANY "corrections" to the build, but mostly to avoid changing the nature of the model more than I need to. While I don't have any photos of the model after it came back into my possession, I did have to clean up some alterations that were done to it, such as the removal of a "poop deck" railing that was installed for the fantasy model, and a couple other minor things that had been broken since I saw it last. Aside from that, I noticed the original builder had some trouble with a few things and left a big gap just between the transom and the gallery windows casting. So, I did a few small modifications to make the model look better. By the way, I've always been interested in modeling the Yacht Mary, and even have an unstarted, original Mamoli kit, which gave me access to the original, full-sized kit plans, which I found helpful. I think my interest in the model dates back to seeing the late Jean Eckert's build in the old Seaways' Ships in Scale magazine. She, by the way, started and ran the South Bay Model Shipwrights club that I'm a member of still today. I'll post a series of photos later to show the progress to date. I'm hoping to complete the model by June. So, this will not be a long and detailed build log. Mostly just wanted to be able to share about the work. Note: I will be getting back to my HMS Wolf build shortly!
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The only thing in that example is that they planked the inside of the bulwarks INSTEAD of adding the timberheads. I would agree with Snug Harbor Johnny's recommendation, but as RossR says, make sure your cap rail is wide enough to cover the planks and the timberheads.
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I will say that I do like the idea of the gallery banner showing just one image from an album. I often feel like when I post a bunch of photos, right after another builder has posted theirs, that I'm kind of unintentionally blasting them off the banner before others may get a chance to notice their work. But, I'm not sure if that's a feasible function. As for videos and links, I too am not particularly fond of them and find them boring. I would go so far as to say that I avoid build videos like the plague. But, that's just me. I know many people love build videos.
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