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Some minor progress is being made on rigging HMS Wolf... But, in the meantime, I'm trying to plan out other preparatory work on the masts, and discovered probably the most egregious of the instruction shortcomings of this Shipyard kit. Note the instructions below showing the shrouds at the mainmast. Note specifically that you can see the mainmast in the photos, beginning with the two unnumbered photos to the right of photo 100. Next, photo 102, you can also see the mainmast, and all looks normal. But then, in photo 103, there suddenly appears a small mark, which I've added a red arrow to point out. That mark is one of four cleats that apparently needed to be added to the mainmast, but this is never shown anywhere. The plan views don't show them either... Now, this is actually the foremast that I'm showing here, but the mainmast is drawn the same way, without cleats shown. Then, on a later page of the instructions, there is one photo that shows the cleats installed on the foremast, but not before showing the foremast installed with no cleats... Very strange, as the bowsprit is shown without any cleats installed either, but the shrouds are installed, as well as the mainstay. And, now the cleats suddenly appear many steps later... This was the first indication in the instructions that cleats are supposed to be added at the base of the masts. How many cleats are there? You might be able to guess from the above photos that there are 8 on the foremast and 4 on the mainmast. As for the plans, the only indication that these cleats are required are in the belaying plan. Fortunately, a close examination gives us the actual numbers of cleats needed on the mainmast... And on the foremast... This project certainly requires a lot of study to pull the info needed from the plans and instructions. Fortunately, all the info seems to be there. It just takes a bit of work to pull it all out. I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise. Most kits come up short when it comes to the instructions. However, I am a bit surprised that some of these things aren't even shown in any of the plans. Well, excepting possibly the belaying plan. This is just one example of a shortcoming of the instructions/plans, but I've only found one other so far. And, all in all, this has been a very enjoyable project. I'm sure my own errors will completely overshadow any kit errors... And, with that said, I've just spotted one of my own errors regarding the pin rail just abaft the foremast. I have it reversed, but may leave it. Oh well, more on that later.
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Well, I'm not sure if it's the time change, the shorter days, colder weather, or what... But, I've been finding myself more motivated to get back to the completion of HMS Wolf. Perhaps it has something to do with the restarting of a ship model group in the San Francsico North Bay? I don't know. But, it's good to be working on this project again... HMS Wolf is now out that small case I had it in, all the deck furniture except the gallows structures has been permanently fixed to the deck, as well as the bowsprit itself. I ended up not adding the little belfry, as it's very much crammed in behind the foremast, between the aft pinrail and the riding bitts. I'll have to figure out what to about the ship's bell. I'm inclined to mount it from a stand on top of the binnacle box, if that seems reasonable. While it's not shown in the photo above, I went back and installed the belaying pins. My kit included brass belaying pins. I'm not sure, but I think Shipyard has since gone with 3D printed belaying pins. Mine, being brass, were treated with BlueJacket's Brass Brown metal toner. Gammoning rope has been added, and stay collars added to the bowsprit. This may not seem like much, but it's the first time I've been really motivated to work on rigging for a long time. I did have the rigging on the Charles yacht, but it was a lot simpler that this smaller scale brig-rigged snow. I think I'm going to go ahead and rig those bobstays. Then, I can get started dealing with the deadeyes and chainplates, which are weirdly mounted on Shipyard kits.
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Unknown Royal Yacht kit.
catopower replied to Lucius Molchany's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
I didn't say it was banned because it was Chinese. Perhaps I should have just said it was likely one of the banned manufacturers, but I think 90% are from China. If I'm wrong, that's great news! -
Unknown Royal Yacht kit.
catopower replied to Lucius Molchany's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Yes, definitely NOT a Mamoli kit for various reasons. Gregory, unfortunately, that looks like an exact match – look at the mounted figure atop the stem. I say unfortunately, because this is likely a banned Chinese kit. Should have been obvious from the start looking at the Chinese characters on the plans. -
I think it's kind of funny how this thread has gone from the OP asking about his pin vise, to recommendations of drill presses. Personally, like Chuck, I am very happy using a pin vise. My preferred variety is the swivel headed type. Quality varies with these things. My go to is one sold by ModelCraft Tools. I have a few of them, with each set up with a common drill bit size, so I can swap pin vises without having to change the drill bits all the time. In any case, I have no trouble using drill bits as small as #80. I have drill presses, and there is a place for the power tools, but nothing replaces the ease of use of a basic pin vise.
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As I recall, the old AL instructions were pretty generic. All the build info is derived from the plan sheets.
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Lovely work Chris! Question: What blocks are you using?
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I think it's neither amateurish nor unrealistic if you are representing a specific reason for a ship doing that since, as John (Jim Lad) pointed out that it was done in reality. That said, it's such an unusual configuration that it will look really odd to most people, and you'll probably have to constantly explain your model to people. That might get annoying after a bit.
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Nothing new to report, except that I removed the jib boom for now. This allows me to put the model under a nice dust cover. Kind of looks like a good way to display a hull model...
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Druxey, were I to build another HMS Wolf kit, and it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility, considering how much I've enjoyed this build, I would go with a modification of the tiller, deleting the existing ships wheel, or possibly relocating it on the quarter deck, as you'd suggested. Perhaps another intrepid ship modeler will take on this amazing build with such a modification? One can only hope.
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Hi Tom, You're working to make a "natural" finish, which is more decorative in nature, so I think it's about your color choices and workability, rather than scale accuracy. Walnut has a darker tone that most people find pleasing. I've used cherry on ship models, but the color isn't stable, it will darken a lot over time and has a lot of red in it. I like how my cherry planked model looks, but I tend to like the look of walnut better. But, that's just me. Go with what you like or your client likes. If you do go with walnut, I'd suggest you consider using the kit wood first and cover it with thin strips of walnut. It'll be easier to work.
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Thank you Druxey! Of course, I'm just going by the kit instructions and plans. Are they accurate? I don't know. Do you think they might have been more like Speedwell in being steered by a curved tiller? In many respects, the ship certainly resembles Speedwell. I think it would be easy enough to modify the kit to do away with the wheel, except for the rectangular outline on the deck marking the position of the platform.
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First use of the paper blocks are now in place on the model, and this also marks the first rigging to on as well. Just finished rigging the ship's wheel and tying down the binnacle box as well. It began with stropping a bunch of the smallest of the blocks provided in the kit: 2mm singles. I also had to make a bunch of eyebolts as small as I could. I pre-rigged the blocks to the eyebolts, and then mounted them into place. In the process, I kept finding items on the deck and on the hull that I'd knocked loose. So, I had to do a bunch of small repairs. Fortunately, it was nothing serious, and the rigging of the ship's wheel and tiller is now done and I can move on. This has been weighing on my mind for quite some time, so I'm very happy to have this step behind me. Afterwards, I went ahead and tied down the binnacle box, after doing a little paint touch up on that first.
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Didn't start rigging the ship's wheel yet, but I did decide to proceed with using the laser-cut cardboard blocks for this model. I've got a good start on making a supply of most of the necessary sizes for this model. By the way, I’ve found it a bit confusing that Shipyard gives each block type a special designation number in the kit, with 2mm single blocks called B1, 2mm double blocks called B6, etc. I find this particularly confusing, because when you buy blocks as accessories, they are only named by size and type. What’s more, a B1 block in one kit is not the same as a B1 block in another kit. I’ve had to buy some extra blocks to replace ones I completely messed up, and to do so, I had to ignore the kit’s block designation and to figure outthe actual sizes. The “translation” between the kit number (B1, B6, etc) and the block size/type is only shown on the kit’s block packaging and on a label on the small cardboard box that contains all the block packages. Don’t lose these labels. You may need to refer to them later on to figure out exactly which blocks you are working with. Glad I didn't toss out this small box! Anyway, in addition to the block making, I managed to finish two more yards: The main and the fore lower yards. These are the largest, of course, and that make them the easiest of the bunch. So, now I'm up to 4 completed yards (the lower yards and topgallant yards), though I still have to add stuns'l booms and irons on the fore lower yard. This means, 4 more yards to go. More by this weekend...
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It's all little stuff now... Those ladders have been cleaned up and they are now permanently on the model. Next, I decided I have to get this block situation dealt with. I've been pretty successful at assembling the smaller blocks. I just broke down and thick, slow cure CA for the small blocks, and that seemed to work okay. It's slow going, though. The blocks are done in batches of about 8-10. Each batch of single blocks requires 3 parts: 2 cheeks and "the guts" with the sheave an such... I cut the strips out from the laser-cut sheets and then apply the glue to one side of the middle section, "the guts". Then, one of the cheek strips is put into place. Note that there is a "groove" in the outer face of the cheek pieces, so you have to make sure to put the flat side to the inside. Below are two strips glued up. CA, even the thick stuff, sets up quickly, but I leave the glued up strips for a few minutes, just to make sure. Then, I use a scalpel blade to trip apart the individual blocks. To keep from losing them, and to make sure that the sheave holes are clear enough to rig, I run a #78 drill bit through these smallest blocks. That's enough to make sure the 0.1mm line called for by the instructions will thread through easily enough. I then thread the block onto a piece of line to keep from losing the darned things, since there's more work to do on them. I dab each end of each block with a tiny amount of thick. This is because I've had too many blocks fall apart in the past, so I'm just being extra cautious now. After all the blocks are glued and dried, I then dab each end with a tiny amount of tan colored paint. It doesn't exactly match the color of the cardboard, which looks fine for "wooden" blocks, but it's mostly to get rid of the bright white spots at the ends. This is definitely a process, but it's not too bad. It is nice to be able to say the model AND the blocks are paper. But, I still do have wooden spars, metal cannons, etc. The part that makes me rethink using the cardboard blocks really comes from the double blocks, which are made up of 5 layers instead of three. The construction process is similar to the single blocks, but I initially had a terrible time with blocks falling apart. But, now that I've settled on using the thick CA, the process is not terrible, and the blocks seem to hold up. The main problem now is the appearance. The blocks look very... so so. The laser char is very bad on these blocks for some reason, and after assembly, the block layers are very clear. I've tried to clean up the char a little using a needle file, but it's very hard to work on these 3.5mm and 2.5mm blocks individually. I've taken to painting the cleaned up blocks to even out the color. I may not continue the painting, but just doing the filing. Anyway, I don't need that many double blocks on this model, so maybe it's okay. Below, you can see cleaned up and painted blocks in the lower left, and untouched blocks in the upper right. If I do paint, I think I need to use a lighter shade and maybe just do the faces of the blocks where necessary. With that, when these are stropped and rigged, they may look okay. I think the lighting makes the painted ones look a bit darker than they actually are, as I'm using a tan-colored paint. The next step is to rig the ship's wheel, which calls for a half-dozen 2mm single blocks, so I need to make the final call on wood or cardboard in the next couple days.
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Enjoying following your build Chris! I was just looking over the Kolderstok Speeljaght kit, and then lo-and-behold, you're building this Seahorse kit of the same scale! Then, a fellow modeler in our local club just got the Kolderstok kit. Now, I have to see how your project goes, so I can figure out which version I should work on...
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Two steps forward and... that's it! Managed to make some progress on HMS Wolf this past weekend. I installed 31 cleats, mostly on the bulwarks, but 9 tiny ones had to go onto the inboard side of the bowsprit. Also constructed the ladders that I'll need to mount on deck soon. Still have to touch up the painting of those, but it was nice to get some construction done. After I finished these, and with the guns permanently fixed in place, I started to feel much better about my progress on this model. Pretty soon, I'll start rigging the tiller ropes and adding the ship's wheel, and rigging the bowsprit.
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It seems that my ship modeling "prop" is cavitating, my sails are taken aback... it's two steps forward and TWO steps back... Made main t'gallant and topsail yards, but there are problems. The laser-cut part for the octagonals/battens takes a lot of care to fit, and as a result, I found the topsail yard too thin. Also, the t'gallant yard mid-section where the laser-cut part fits is also very thin and it seems the wood broke underneath the laser-cut part. I'll need to re-do the topsail yard, but not sure about the main t'gallant. I'm now considering the sail configuration of the model (so that's kind of a step forward!), as this might tell me if I can reinforce the main t'gallant yard with a piece of wire that might hide under/behind the sail material. Below is the kit photo. The kit includes all the sails shown here, but I think I'm going to try my hand at making some sails from silkspan, inspired by the recent workshop by Ron Neilson and Tom Ruggiero. Excelling workshop, by the way, and I'm very inspired to try it! I think I'm going to go with a simplified sail arrangement and try flying the topsails, jib, and spanker. The courses I'm thinking I may furl. Still not sure about the t'gallants. If I furl them, I can put the yards in lowered position. I could also leave the t'gallants off the yards. Given the tall nature of the rig, that might give it more of a nice balance look, especially if the courses are loosely furled. But, having the furled sails on their yards will allow me to hide repairs. Looking through Harland's Seamanship in the Age of Sail, as well as online images of brigs under sail. Beyond that, I did permanently fix the guns into position, so I won't be adding any of the additional tackle there. On the blocks, can any paper modelers out there suggest the best way to glue up the laser-cut card blocks? Mine tend to fall apart when I try to clean out the sheave holes. I'd still like to be able to use them, but I'm consolidating my wooden block supplies to be ready to go with those.
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Vacillating on which blocks to use again! I went through my inventory of blocks, and I have two different lines of wooden blocks that include ones small enough for this model. I'd still LIKE to rig the gun tackles, and that calls for 2mm blocks, though it looks like I could get away with 2.5mm blocks. I have some old Warner Woods blocks, quite a few actually, and fair supply of Master Korabel blocks. Neither of these includes shoulder blocks or long tackle blocks, which the instructions call for, and which are readily available in cardboard form. So, I'm giving the cardboard blocks another chance, seeing if I can assemble ones that don't fall apart when I start to work with them. Meanwhile, I ended up making a couple spars today. Oh My God are these tiny, even at 1/72 scale. I started with the kit dowels, but I ended using some 1/16" diameter birch dowels I have a supply of, as they were smaller diameter to start with. I just used these to make the main gaff and the fore t'gallant yard. I tapered the dowel accordingly and sanded them down closer to 2.3mm in diameter. That was okay for the main gaff, but the t'gallant yard has a nice laser-etched piece that wraps around the middle to represent the octagonal section or battening. In order to get it to fit, I had to shave down the middle section of the dowel to 1.7mm, creating a slightly recessed section in the center of the yard. Even then, the battening piece doesn't quite wrap all the way around, but it's close enough. The seam will be located on the underside of the yard, and if I mount sails, they will completely cover it up as well. This was more of an effort than I was expecting. But, it's done – 1 yard down, 7 yards to go. Fortunately, this is one of the smallest. The others should all be larger and easier to deal with. At least, that's what I keep telling myself...
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I agree with GrandpaPhil. Nice find! This is a very rare kit. You are right that Aeropiccola has been out of business for a LONG TIME, and the kit is from an era of older kits that are harder to build into an "accurate" model. But, some of us have an appreciation for these old classic kits. A friend of mine recently told me he is in possession of a USS Essex from Aeropiccola and wanted to know if I wanted to buy it. Unfortunately, I have more than enough kits to last the rest of my life. I need to get rid of some, I think! Are you going to build the kit?
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Nice score Erik! I'm familiar with just about all of those kits, except for the BlueJacket Blue Gray half-hull. The Black Hawk half hull, If it's the kit I'm thinking of, is basically a framed half-hull that you can pretty much display on the wall as-is. It's really rare, and I've only ever seen one of these before. Anyway, it looks like your stockpile is now well seeded. Good luck with all those builds!
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