uss frolick

Hello,
 
The monograph of "L'Invention" has only been published for 6 months, there is still no model to my knowledge.
The prototype models which are detailed in photos in my monographs are of course finished after publication. But, for "L'Invention" and "L'Egyptienne", there is no prototype model. The model by Greg will therefore be the first whose construction will be published.
For "L'Egyptienne", there are several models under construction by members of my forum, including this one made with great talent:
https://5500.forumactif.org/t3726-l-egyptienne-au-1-48-mes-debuts-en-arsenal
 
GD

I can not explain how devastated I am to be announcing this.  My dear and close friend Jim Byrnes has passed away way too soon.   Many have you know and have met Jim.  He was a fantastic guy and true original.   Many of you own his tools which are second to none in the hobby.    I have been speaking with his wife Donna who many of you also know.  Jim was diagnosed with ALS in February.  ALS is a nasty disease and there is no cure.  Jim had a particularly aggressive type of ALS and he passed away last month in October.  He was just 64 years old.
 
This news will be devastating to many...but Donna has asked if everyone would have patience and give here and their family time to grieve.  As you might expect,  the business will continue to be shut down,  but will reopen at some time in the near future.  Donna will continue supporting the hobby and their customers when the time is right.   But please have patience and allow the family to grieve at this sad time.  Donna will let me know when the shop will reopen.  I will make an announcement at that time.  
 
I am so devastated by this...I just spoke to him not too long ago and it breaks my heart.  His obituary is below.
 
Jim is survived by his wife, Donna; son, James William (Krystal) and grandchildren Julian and Sloane; brother, Peter (Cindy) Byrnes and sisters, Mary (James) Hayman, Catherine Byrnes, Veronica Byrnes and Elaine Byrnes (Robert Campbell); brother-in-law, Eddie (Marcia) Grissom; brother-in-law, Frank Marzovilla, and many cherished nieces and nephews. Not to be forgotten is his beloved English Springer Spaniel, Becky, who is waiting every day for him to come home to her!

He was preceded in death by his parents, James and Lorraine Byrnes; brother, Robert Byrnes; nephew, Michael Byrnes; brother-in-law, Pete Stuffer; and mother-in-law, Opal Grissom.

Along with restoring vintage cars, from a very young age Jim had a true passion for model ship-building. For many years he had done extensive research on the U.S.S. Constitution and was in the final phase of completing his scratch build of the Constitution as it was originally launched in 1797. Following a career of working with Defense contract companies, Jim worked many years with and became a partner with Conceptual Engineering in Sanford FL. In 2002 Jim and Donna formed Model Machines LLC. Jim designed and developed small modeler’s machines that are now purchased worldwide and used in many high school and college machine shops and in museums for their restorations. There have been numerous reviews and articles written about Jim which were published in various modelers’ magazines. Modelers using Jim’s machines range from ship, railroad, doll houses, doll house furniture, pen turners, segmented bowls and architects. In recent years guitar, harp and violin makers were added to this list. Jim was a remarkable craftsman and had many more machines in development stage for modelers. He was always ready to help and mentor others, many of whom soon became his very close friends.

 Jim was also a member of the Nautical Research Guild and attended conferences throughout the U.S. for 20 years, developing many close friendships within this organization.

Jim was a humble, quiet man who was deeply loved and will be missed by so many. Our hearts, as a family, are broken. Thru this profound loss, if we can ask one thing from this place of despair, it would be to embrace your loved ones every chance you get.
 
 

The 1813 Lake Ontario wrecks of the USS Hamilton and Scourge show the sweeps stored on the chains/channels. They also show those keyhole openings on the bulwarks of Hamilton. (Scourge had open bulwarks.) Providence had crane-irons built on the poop deck sides just to hold sweeps. HMS Reindeer (a big 400 ton Cruiser Class brig) used sweeps in 1814 to try and weather the USS Wasp. 

I imagine many of the members have already seen the videos and know the story how she was sunk by the British in 1708,  but for those who have not, this is an incredible find, worth billions of Euros/dollars in gold, silver, gems and relics.   In looking at the video, there looks to be some interesting things regarding Spanish ships of the San Jose era.   One that jumped out at me is the cannon.  There is no cascabel but rather an ornate loop.  Time mark 1:08, 1:46, and 2:20  show these very clearly.
Allan
https://www.mensjournal.com/news/colombia-holy-grail-of-shipwrecks-20-billion-treasure

Lots of cat memes and funny sign photos to prune for copyright infringements and yada yada...
 
Over 150,000 posts of "what folks had for dinner" and "Old guy parking quirks"
 
This may take a while.   In the meanwhile....direct your attention to the other forum areas dedicated to the wonderful world of ship modeling!!!
 
AND please.....do not post one Minion meme in any of the other areas.....wink wink....you know who you are...resist the urge.
 
And yes we still do have a Nautical General discussion forum that should fit your needs for most other stuff other than topics about "those old jokes" and the likes.
 
 

Morgan, I notice that in your photo of the Victory, post #29, previous page, there appears to be thin netting woven over the shot to keep it in the rack? Was this the contemporary practice, or is it a modern, anti-idiot-tourist device?

You have to look twice, you’ve made the same initial assumption that I did.  
 
There are in fact three swivels mounted on a rail at the break of the Poop, it was shot away at Trafalgar and subsequently reinstated.  The Victory’s Marines were initially drawn up on the Poop, so it makes sense to have them close to the Marines. Nelson wouldn’t have Marines in the tops due to risk of fire to sails.
 
Gary

RE: the Turner 1806 sketch: A pair of guns on the poop deck?

RE: the Turner 1806 sketch: A pair of guns on the poop deck?

HMS Ajax is also just a 'typical representative British frigate of the eighteenth century' based on detailed plans from an elusive contemporary technical German book, that was allegedly lost by the company's 'previous owners'. Supposedly, the new company is so eager to document their beloved Ajax, that they are offering a free kit to anyone who can find a copy of this book for them. Sounds like marketing BS to me, but I'm way too cynical, I will admit.

HMS Ajax is also just a 'typical representative British frigate of the eighteenth century' based on detailed plans from an elusive contemporary technical German book, that was allegedly lost by the company's 'previous owners'. Supposedly, the new company is so eager to document their beloved Ajax, that they are offering a free kit to anyone who can find a copy of this book for them. Sounds like marketing BS to me, but I'm way too cynical, I will admit.

HMS Ajax is also just a 'typical representative British frigate of the eighteenth century' based on detailed plans from an elusive contemporary technical German book, that was allegedly lost by the company's 'previous owners'. Supposedly, the new company is so eager to document their beloved Ajax, that they are offering a free kit to anyone who can find a copy of this book for them. Sounds like marketing BS to me, but I'm way too cynical, I will admit.

HMS Ajax is also just a 'typical representative British frigate of the eighteenth century' based on detailed plans from an elusive contemporary technical German book, that was allegedly lost by the company's 'previous owners'. Supposedly, the new company is so eager to document their beloved Ajax, that they are offering a free kit to anyone who can find a copy of this book for them. Sounds like marketing BS to me, but I'm way too cynical, I will admit.

"It is also possible that English shipwrights worried about losing lucrative work to Irish yards, and used any influence they had to stop such developments."
 
That was my suspicion ...

Great information! Thanks guys!

Wow! No responses?
 
Not even a "Frolick you're an idiot! Don't you remember that HMS Victory was originally HMS Shamrock, build at Cork, prior to her name change..."
 
 

Great information! Thanks guys!

Wow! No responses?
 
Not even a "Frolick you're an idiot! Don't you remember that HMS Victory was originally HMS Shamrock, build at Cork, prior to her name change..."
 
 

"It is also possible that English shipwrights worried about losing lucrative work to Irish yards, and used any influence they had to stop such developments."
 
That was my suspicion ...

"It is also possible that English shipwrights worried about losing lucrative work to Irish yards, and used any influence they had to stop such developments."
 
That was my suspicion ...

Great information! Thanks guys!

Wow! No responses?
 
Not even a "Frolick you're an idiot! Don't you remember that HMS Victory was originally HMS Shamrock, build at Cork, prior to her name change..."
 
 

Great information! Thanks guys!

Great information! Thanks guys!

I found this:-
 
"Shipbuilding in Ireland in the Nineteenth Century" - Shipbuilding in the United Kingdom in the Nineteenth Century (cambridge.org)
 
Nothing specific on the RN. but the tonnages mentioned may have included Cutters/Brigs/Sloops at a push, maybe commercial vessels brought into the service as transports etc I could imagine, but don't know.  Hopefully some history buffs on here know more.
 
There obviously Harland & Wolff, but that is much later than the period you are interested in.