allanyed Posted November 9, 2023 Share #1 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) I imagine many of the members have already seen the videos and know the story how she was sunk by the British in 1708, but for those who have not, this is an incredible find, worth billions of Euros/dollars in gold, silver, gems and relics. In looking at the video, there looks to be some interesting things regarding Spanish ships of the San Jose era. One that jumped out at me is the cannon. There is no cascabel but rather an ornate loop. Time mark 1:08, 1:46, and 2:20 show these very clearly. Allan https://www.mensjournal.com/news/colombia-holy-grail-of-shipwrecks-20-billion-treasure Edited November 9, 2023 by allanyed Matt D, Thukydides, davyboy and 7 others 10 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 9, 2023 Share #2 Posted November 9, 2023 Great video, Allan! Thank you for sharing. allanyed 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thukydides Posted November 10, 2023 Share #3 Posted November 10, 2023 That is really interesting, great find mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted November 11, 2023 Share #4 Posted November 11, 2023 Great info Allan What I find interesting is that the article says it is thousands of feet deep, yet in the picture we see a scuba diver and substantial ambient lighting. Obviously not a picture of the wreck. Of course the video depicts a very different environment. Why can't the media do better than that. mtaylor, thibaultron, NavyShooter and 2 others 5 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted November 11, 2023 Share #5 Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) Personally, the legal battle is interesting too. I think the treasure on the ship should stay at the bottom of the sea along with the 600 men who died with it. Every shipwreck is also a mass grave, and should be treated like one. I find it disgusting that all anyone cares about is who the loot belongs to. Not even the historical and research value is considered. I also can't wait for them to find the Flor de la Mar, a Portuguese carrack loaded with billions of dollars of treasure that lies off the coast of Malaysia. Edited November 11, 2023 by Ferrus Manus thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted November 11, 2023 Share #6 Posted November 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gregory said: Why can't the media do better than that. Because it's the media. They always suck. This is a real ROV photo of the galleon: mtaylor, NavyShooter, Rik Thistle and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeller_masa Posted November 11, 2023 Share #7 Posted November 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Gregory said: the picture we see a scuba diver and substantial ambient lighting. https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/diver-investigates-the-shipwreck-of-french-navys-society-at-news-photo/1495948834 The ship with scuba diver is a different ship. Yeah. It's the media. mtaylor, davyboy, Ferrus Manus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristiano Posted November 13, 2023 Share #8 Posted November 13, 2023 in the below link other photos of the wreck. The article is one year old... I am interested too in the legal battle, since as it was written in an article that I posted some weeks ago: Spain reclaim all its royal galleons (and related content) that are in the sea bottom as of its property, but here Colombia and Bolivia reclain the property too..... for different reasons. https://www.dw.com/es/tesoro-en-el-mar-nuevas-imágenes-del-galeón-san-josé/a-62065756 mtaylor and thibaultron 1 1 Quote Done: Venetian Polacre http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7290-venetian-polacre-by-cristiano-sec-xviii-from-original-drawings/ Halifax http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/844-halifax/ Ranger https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2175-ranger-revenue-cutter-by-corel/ HM Bark Endeavour (Corel kit heavily kitbashed) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/125-hmbark-endeavour-corel-kit-bashed/ Venetian Galleon (from scratch) - Pirate Junk - Sicilian Speronara (from scratch) On the shelf (still packed): Artesania Le Hussard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thibaultron Posted November 13, 2023 Share #9 Posted November 13, 2023 Spain won the legal battle, with no compensation to the people who spent funds searching for it. The ship, while a merchantman, carried cannons for defense, thus Spain argued that an armed ship is a warship, and won. mtaylor, Ferrus Manus and modeller_masa 1 1 1 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted November 13, 2023 Share #10 Posted November 13, 2023 There is supposedly a guy in prison who recovered $$$$ in gold from a wreck in US Waters. He stashed it somewhere and lost a fight with the authorities regarding possession. He will be released in a while and as he had paid his debt to society will be able to enjoy his loot. He apparently thinks that this is a good bargain. Roger thibaultron, mtaylor and modeller_masa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share #11 Posted November 13, 2023 Roger are you talking about Tommy Thompson? An old article (2019) can be read at https://www.stuartmagazine.com/stuart-life/people/treasure-hunter-tommy-thompson-in-jail-until-he-admits-where-50-million-of-gold-is/ Allan modeller_masa, thibaultron and mtaylor 2 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeller_masa Posted November 13, 2023 Share #12 Posted November 13, 2023 I don't know the story behind it, but I would say that it seems to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs... thibaultron, allanyed, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted November 14, 2023 Share #13 Posted November 14, 2023 Yes, it sounds like the guy, although I thought that he had a definite release date. Roger thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thibaultron Posted November 14, 2023 Share #14 Posted November 14, 2023 It would not matter, the treasure is now legaly considered stolen property, and would be consficated as soon as he starts showing or selling it. D..m greedy governments. mtaylor 1 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Golden Posted November 14, 2023 Share #15 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, thibaultron said: It would not matter, the treasure is now legaly considered stolen property, and would be consficated as soon as he starts showing or selling it. D..m greedy governments. Counterpoint: Greedy grave robber (and investors). mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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