Vivian Galad

Continuation. 
 
 

 

 
Paweł 

Continuation. 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 
Pawel 

 

Continued work.
 
 
 

 
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
 
 
 

 
 
 
The whole process of this model is described at this address:
 
http://www.koga.net....php?f=7&t=45782
 
on Polish modeling forum "Koga"

Would always go for the bigger scales - don't know what admiral would say though. Great advance on canons, Mark. They're comming alive!

Would always go for the bigger scales - don't know what admiral would say though. Great advance on canons, Mark. They're comming alive!

Would always go for the bigger scales - don't know what admiral would say though. Great advance on canons, Mark. They're comming alive!

Would always go for the bigger scales - don't know what admiral would say though. Great advance on canons, Mark. They're comming alive!

Thanks Druxey, I needed that laugh today. 

Geez. A lot of cannon shot passed through those frames. It must have been a very hot action! Your battery of cannon returned fire, I hope. They look good.

Beautiful stuff, Mark.  Quick question about the second photo, principally where you’ve drilled and the resultant cracked frames.  Are they going to be a drama, or would they be covered up with the planking?
 
Cheers. 
 
Patrick

Thanks for following along, for the likes, and commentary...
 
Still fussing with cannon... I drilled the holes for the rings and hooks that fit to the bulkhead.  The first photo shows the machining jig and drilling tool.  All the barrels are in the carriages and the appropriate hardware added to them.  I also added the trunnion caps made from black paper soaked in CA. (Barely visible in the last photo).  The 2nd pic shows 6 in position to check alignment, etc.   So far... so good.   Now for the fun part... hooks, blocks, and rope for the training gear.  Once that's completed, I'll start adding the breeching and installing the hardware to the bulkhead and connecting everything up.   My only comment is "This stuff is tiny.  Next time, a bigger scale. Admiral permitting of course."  
 

 

 

 

 
 

Thanks for the support.   Been spending time re-blackening the barrels as they weren't black but looked like darkened bronze.  I'm happy with them now.  Also sorting out the production line... 6 guns at a time, prep the hardware, install it as much as possible off ship, install to ship and go to "next".   This will take some time but I'm shooting for consistency.  <fingers crossed>
 
Ah.. I see the eyebolt.  Note that this image is for a 74 with port lids as the frigates didn't have lids but bucklers fitted as needed.  That eyebolt in the overhead is for when the lid/buckler is closed and the gun secured.  Basically a rope would be fitted to the eyebolt and rope from it to the muzzle of the gun as the guns were "stored" with the muzzle raised as high as possible. 

Looks like you have a plan and some nice guidance drawings. That kinda stuff is the interesting part of scratch building and a lot of fun.
 
Cheers,

Been a busy week in the shipyard.   Figuring out how the heck I'm going to do the cannons and I think I'm on target.   I've looked over the details from Boudriot's The Seventy-fFur Gun Ship  (see picture) and after going "Holy cow!!! How in the h*** am I going to do that?" I took a deep breath and began analyzing things.  I think I can pull this off but there's a few bits I'm going to cheat on... like the hooks on the single block at the rear of the gun.  I'll use Dafi's etched brass hooks for those.. the 2.2mm size.  The singles I have are tiny and in scale to my eye as are the doubles on the front (they're actually maybe a tinge to large.  I've dug out the eyebolts and rings and found I can make the forward hook that's in the bulkhead from an eyebolt.  I went through assorted stock and found some of Chuck's line that will work perfectly.  My apologies, I didn't toss a dime into the parts for size but if you go back up a few posts, you can see the carriages with a dime for size.   Oh... I do have more parts than what's shown in the box as those will get me started.
 
Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and I've got a few good intentions.   Hopefully my sanity will stay where it is.   I'll update when I get a few guns done and installed providing my eyes aren't crossed by then.  Time to gather the yard dogs up and set up a production line.
 



 
 

the carriages look great Mark  very well done   

Mark, nicely done as always, although I think those blue tarps lashed down on deck are out of period???
As far as your epoxy drying, if you have an oven with a pilot light that will help with the cure time. A small incandescent bulb in a shoe box might work also. I know,I know, not environmentally friendly, but sometimes.....
 
Sam

Thanks for looking gentlemen.  I appreciate the likes and the comments.  
 
I've decided to live with the cannons as they are.  I did some further testing and still didn't like what I was getting as results.   Things were busy here and too late I realized I should have made several jigs as I decided (after some destructive testing) to use a thin epoxy that seemed to take forever to try.   I have 24 carriages assembled and pretty much cleaned up and parts for 5 more if I should royally mess some of the "good" ones up.  Now to convert the shop over to metal work as I need to blacken and install the fittings, do the rigging, and install.   Each gun will need 2 eyebolts on the carriage, 2 on the deck (for pulling the gun back from the port), and then 4 on the bulkhead at each port.  I'll be using Dafi's fine looking (and small) eyes and hooks for all this. My eyes are now crossed and I note that I've been mumbling to myself a lot the last day or two trying to get these finished.  Note that the two forward ports (1 on each side) will not be filled as these were "access ports" for lack of a better term.
 
Here's pics of the carriages in place for position and to run some checks.  Pierre is standing by for scale reference.  I'll pick the 10 best for the mid-ship area that's open and if any of the rest fail to met standards, I'll replace them with new ones.  Hopefully, in the next week or two, I'll also install all the furniture (oops.. need to make 2 "kitchens") and get rid of that blue tape.
 
 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear friends, 
thank you all for your kindly words and comments. I feel very weak so far but hope I will get well soon. I am continuing to work only very limited now. I modified other parts on the model, that were not entirely based on appearance of the real ship in Vale´s painting. I reduced other upper parts of the hull and added the black strip between wales. More information is also here:
http://modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&p=2093870#p2093609

My main priority is the maximal historical plausibility as I have already said, so if I detect an inconsistency, or if someone alerts me, I'm trying to fix it. Of course, I cannot fix everything, but if it is at least possible, then I do it.
 
For example now I have to find out whether the decoration between the gunports was sculpturesque/plastic and gilded or was only painted? 
 
Some examples of similar ships from that period with painted decoration:
 

http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66333.html
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/65967.html
 
 
Here I am not quite sure but I think it's more like a painting:


According to the original pictures from that period and museum models, it seems to me rather painted. I have to admit, that the gilded plastic/sculptural decoration along the whole length of the hull would appeal to me more.
But I am gonna decide on what is historically more accurate.
 
Please, if you have more accurate information, it would help me a lot if you share them here. I will be very grateful.
 
 
BTW: The model is very heavy, even if it is made of card.
 
 
Best regards and enjoy the pics.

Great work, Mark! 
 

Hi Doris!!
 
   I couldn´t have come back on a better time! To see your ships again is such a delight and, more than that, great inspiration. Taking a seat to follow and surely be mesmerized by your talent.

Great work, Mark! 
 

Thanks, Tom, Druxey, Carl and Vivian. I greatly appreciate the positive comments and all the likes. It keeps the oxytocin levels high. I still have a few things to do such the anchors and some titivating before I seal it away in the case. I am thinking of the next project which may be a 13th or 14th century mediterranean lateener (not a crusader ship, Steven). As well, I must finish the framing of the Gros Ventre which was put on hold because of the carrack build.
Cheers
Dick

Great work, Mark! 
 

Great work, Mark! 
 

Thanks for the likes and comments.   
 
Thanks Steve. I suspect that you're right except cannon balls might have been an issue.
 
Nice to you see back Vivian, it's been awhile, I hope all is well.
 
After looking over the cannon barrels carefully, the thinking light came on.. and sometimes I hate that when it happens.   It does look like a little work and these could be pure French cannon.   I'll have to take one of the extra 4 pdrs, and test when I get a bit of breathing space.