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    Jond reacted to clearway in HMS Erebus by clearway - OcCre - 1/75 scale - bashed   
    Put the 1/35 half tracks n trucks to one side and give Erebus some attention- anyone familiar with Occre kits will know the snap shut compartment trays for the fittings, well this afternoon the trays for Erebus and Endurance somehow slipped off the shelf under the worktops and split asunder on the floor in the same place !!@$$****! 
    Back with shipyard tasks and have installed the warping drums on the windlass (still need stained/ varnished) and made a start on the bow plating- like with Terror i am using self adhesive copper tape as opposed to the aluminium sheets supplied by Occre.
     


    Take care everyone and thanks for looking in
     
    Keith
     
     
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    Jond reacted to Jim Lad in Herzogin Cecilie 1902 by Jim Lad - Four Masted Barque   
    Another small update.
     
    The first image is an overhead view of the very long poop deck - now cleaned of dust, dirt and general grunge. 
     
    The second image is of the forecastle, showing the first tentative steps towards correction of some errors on the model. Part of the railing has been removed on each side of the deck, as these sections were removable and had chain, rather than steel bar railings.
     
    More thinking and study of photos has brought to light another major problem. The original ship had a beautiful teak capping rails all around the poop rather that the pipe rail shown on the model. The Senior Curator would like to have this changed to conform to the original, so - yet another major alteration. My current thinking is that the simplest way around this will be to file down the tops of the stanchions a little to bring them to the height of the bulwarks forward, and then to run the wooden capping around on top of the current steel piping. A lot of work, but I think easier than ripping out all of the railing and starting again. If anyone has any better ideas, I'd love to hear about them as I'm not looking forward to all that additional work.
     
    Another problem is the number holes and gaps in the deck caused by the removal or alteration of items that were no longer on the ship at the time of her last voyage. I need to find some kind of filler to close up all those holes and make them a little less obvious.
     
    This model is turning into a real lesson for anyone thinking of taking on a restoration; the number of problems on deck on this model that have come to light since I started serious cleaning operations is amazing!!
     
    John
     

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    Jond got a reaction from yvesvidal in Elizabeth Howard by Jond - 1:48 - The White Ghost - Schooner   
    3 the hull framing 
     
    I first, scanned the line drawing, embedded it into 2d cad, scaled, and then traced bulk heads.  I chose to do this hull only as bulk heads because the affect I think is to have the unusual white hull and flying sails as the chosen image.   I then scanned the Keelson on three images and embedded them in a 2d Turbocad drawing, then aligned and scaled them.  Unfortunately, when I first did this, I was following the note by Howard Chapelle on the drawing that made it (148ft at the rail). Fortunately I   re-read the NJR article mentioned above and learned that the best approach would be to shorten the vessel to 133.5 FT at the rail.   Thank goodness for cad scaling.
    1    Here are the stations all cut out and glued to luan plywood ready to cut.  
    2    Here we see the keelson assemble drawing and building board ready to go at 148 feet  
    3   here is the Chapelle note that set us on the path to 148 ft.  
    4.    here are the dotted lines that extend the bow all above the waterline.    Purely for speed, I am sure.  Later measuring this extension, as in the article it is 6.5 feet.  
    5    here is the rescaled keelson assembly.   I remade the building board template on the same drawing.    Now the first cutting
     
    6     Here are the bulkhead templates cut out   
    7     In this view we see the raised portion to support bulwark planking up to the rail.   I struggled with this detail on my last build [ it was at smaller 1:96 scale] to remove these “tabs” after the planking.   Since these must be removed to allow continuous stanchions at each frame[ 4 per bulkhead], as seen in the in the photo I found,  I have decided to remove these tabs now and then add stanchions later. We’ll see if it’s a better way to go .   
    8     here I am doing something new as well.  I chose to laminate the keelson assemble with three layers of basswood.  I used solid maple last time.  My reason was here there is more sheer to the assembly, so there will be three full joints. The overlapping allows a stronger joint both forward and aft.  
    9    Here after cutting out the keelson assembly one can see the considerable shear in this design. A butt joint would not have worked well.  The other reason is the width of the keel in the section drawing is only 3/16 [10in} where other heavy fishing schooner keels were ¼ “ [12-14 inches.]. this keel projectys further below the hull than other schooners.  We will address again later.  
    10-11   
     
     
     Here are progress images of a rough first dry fit as I approach the end of this phase. 
    Next up will be to complete the frame and get the first planking installed.  
     
    All for now
     
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    Jond got a reaction from yvesvidal in Lightship WAL 605 Overfalls by Jond - based on Bluejacket Shipcrafters kit Nantucket - 1:98   
    Post 5 Rough work to get through planning and into production for masts, rigging and the stack[ funnel].
     
    Unlike many of the modelers on this forum I am a neophyte in most of our tasks.  Soldering is one of them.    I will share my struggle and persevere as to do the metal work at the top of the steel mast for me is a chore. Making the mast from a dowel allows drilling a few holes and things, but platforms?   Also, the yards are clearly hollow pipes in the photos.  There are many photographs to follow, so here we go… I hope I can pull it off.
     
    Mast lights and platform
    1    here is a photo of the top of the foremast from Columbia.  
    2   here is a photo of the top of the main mast also from Columbia.  
    3   here is the first attempt to take the components from the Nantucket kit and apply them.  Our mast is I take from drawings is 1/8” vs Nantucket 3/16”.  A hidden washer is glued to the dowel to hold up the brass platform….I hope.  I soldered the handrails and added the radio mast in copper. I find using Tix solder and normal paste flux works for me though it’s a bit crude.  The lights are wood , shaped on a lathe, and I used the mill to drill a 1/8” hole so it can rest on the top of the mast.  I hope paint does the trick.   I am not ready to attach all the rails at this point.   I may want to a paint first and I may change the mast to copper tube.   I am still thinking about itat this point.    
    4.   vhere is a rough foremast frame loosely resting on the top of the mast.   I need to add a plate for the little triangle holding the aircraft warning light and some form of decking for the upper platform.  It is a short mast too for the radio aerial.  
    Rigging 
    5   here in a photo of Columbia we see the size for turnbuckles.  They are roughly 4 feet and open.  The connection to the deck is a compilation of plates and shackles. 2 of them are smaller on top of the aft deck house. For now, I will attach to eye.  I will try to cover that with a tiny plate later.  
    6   here are the standard cross connection for short sections of shroud. I have laid out in an attempt to replicate their locations.  
    7   here I plumbed up the main mast and its platform and soldered it in place.  I tried that combo solder paste but got nowhere.  Doing the rigging is fun. I am using 2.5mm bullseyes, grey thread to replicate the steel cable in the photos and white tread to replicate the white tape in the photos.   Stack
    Based on advice from a friendly guild member, I ordered a bunch of styrene including sheets.
     
    8.   I cut a styrene strip, and after soaking it in boiling water I clamped it around a plug.  
    9   after a short while I took it and welded it to itself as I rewrapped it around the plug for two layers.  I then trimmed it back to size and laid out the slots.  Then using a drill, knives and mini files eventually got 10 slots in.   
    10   In this progress view, you can see the first styrene stack on the table.  It was too big, so the second one is now sitting in place partially painted.    
    11   I was unsatisfied with the wood dowel masts and decided that to replicate steel masts I should use copper.  Here is the fore mast rebuilt.  
    12   here we have the new main mast.   The paint for masts and deck furniture just came in from Bluejacket, so that work comes next.  
    All for now
     
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    Jond got a reaction from Siggi52 in Elizabeth Howard by Jond - 1:48 - The White Ghost - Schooner   
    3 the hull framing 
     
    I first, scanned the line drawing, embedded it into 2d cad, scaled, and then traced bulk heads.  I chose to do this hull only as bulk heads because the affect I think is to have the unusual white hull and flying sails as the chosen image.   I then scanned the Keelson on three images and embedded them in a 2d Turbocad drawing, then aligned and scaled them.  Unfortunately, when I first did this, I was following the note by Howard Chapelle on the drawing that made it (148ft at the rail). Fortunately I   re-read the NJR article mentioned above and learned that the best approach would be to shorten the vessel to 133.5 FT at the rail.   Thank goodness for cad scaling.
    1    Here are the stations all cut out and glued to luan plywood ready to cut.  
    2    Here we see the keelson assemble drawing and building board ready to go at 148 feet  
    3   here is the Chapelle note that set us on the path to 148 ft.  
    4.    here are the dotted lines that extend the bow all above the waterline.    Purely for speed, I am sure.  Later measuring this extension, as in the article it is 6.5 feet.  
    5    here is the rescaled keelson assembly.   I remade the building board template on the same drawing.    Now the first cutting
     
    6     Here are the bulkhead templates cut out   
    7     In this view we see the raised portion to support bulwark planking up to the rail.   I struggled with this detail on my last build [ it was at smaller 1:96 scale] to remove these “tabs” after the planking.   Since these must be removed to allow continuous stanchions at each frame[ 4 per bulkhead], as seen in the in the photo I found,  I have decided to remove these tabs now and then add stanchions later. We’ll see if it’s a better way to go .   
    8     here I am doing something new as well.  I chose to laminate the keelson assemble with three layers of basswood.  I used solid maple last time.  My reason was here there is more sheer to the assembly, so there will be three full joints. The overlapping allows a stronger joint both forward and aft.  
    9    Here after cutting out the keelson assembly one can see the considerable shear in this design. A butt joint would not have worked well.  The other reason is the width of the keel in the section drawing is only 3/16 [10in} where other heavy fishing schooner keels were ¼ “ [12-14 inches.]. this keel projectys further below the hull than other schooners.  We will address again later.  
    10-11   
     
     
     Here are progress images of a rough first dry fit as I approach the end of this phase. 
    Next up will be to complete the frame and get the first planking installed.  
     
    All for now
     
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    Jond got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Elizabeth Howard by Jond - 1:48 - The White Ghost - Schooner   
    3 the hull framing 
     
    I first, scanned the line drawing, embedded it into 2d cad, scaled, and then traced bulk heads.  I chose to do this hull only as bulk heads because the affect I think is to have the unusual white hull and flying sails as the chosen image.   I then scanned the Keelson on three images and embedded them in a 2d Turbocad drawing, then aligned and scaled them.  Unfortunately, when I first did this, I was following the note by Howard Chapelle on the drawing that made it (148ft at the rail). Fortunately I   re-read the NJR article mentioned above and learned that the best approach would be to shorten the vessel to 133.5 FT at the rail.   Thank goodness for cad scaling.
    1    Here are the stations all cut out and glued to luan plywood ready to cut.  
    2    Here we see the keelson assemble drawing and building board ready to go at 148 feet  
    3   here is the Chapelle note that set us on the path to 148 ft.  
    4.    here are the dotted lines that extend the bow all above the waterline.    Purely for speed, I am sure.  Later measuring this extension, as in the article it is 6.5 feet.  
    5    here is the rescaled keelson assembly.   I remade the building board template on the same drawing.    Now the first cutting
     
    6     Here are the bulkhead templates cut out   
    7     In this view we see the raised portion to support bulwark planking up to the rail.   I struggled with this detail on my last build [ it was at smaller 1:96 scale] to remove these “tabs” after the planking.   Since these must be removed to allow continuous stanchions at each frame[ 4 per bulkhead], as seen in the in the photo I found,  I have decided to remove these tabs now and then add stanchions later. We’ll see if it’s a better way to go .   
    8     here I am doing something new as well.  I chose to laminate the keelson assemble with three layers of basswood.  I used solid maple last time.  My reason was here there is more sheer to the assembly, so there will be three full joints. The overlapping allows a stronger joint both forward and aft.  
    9    Here after cutting out the keelson assembly one can see the considerable shear in this design. A butt joint would not have worked well.  The other reason is the width of the keel in the section drawing is only 3/16 [10in} where other heavy fishing schooner keels were ¼ “ [12-14 inches.]. this keel projectys further below the hull than other schooners.  We will address again later.  
    10-11   
     
     
     Here are progress images of a rough first dry fit as I approach the end of this phase. 
    Next up will be to complete the frame and get the first planking installed.  
     
    All for now
     
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    Jond got a reaction from JacquesCousteau in Elizabeth Howard by Jond - 1:48 - The White Ghost - Schooner   
    3 the hull framing 
     
    I first, scanned the line drawing, embedded it into 2d cad, scaled, and then traced bulk heads.  I chose to do this hull only as bulk heads because the affect I think is to have the unusual white hull and flying sails as the chosen image.   I then scanned the Keelson on three images and embedded them in a 2d Turbocad drawing, then aligned and scaled them.  Unfortunately, when I first did this, I was following the note by Howard Chapelle on the drawing that made it (148ft at the rail). Fortunately I   re-read the NJR article mentioned above and learned that the best approach would be to shorten the vessel to 133.5 FT at the rail.   Thank goodness for cad scaling.
    1    Here are the stations all cut out and glued to luan plywood ready to cut.  
    2    Here we see the keelson assemble drawing and building board ready to go at 148 feet  
    3   here is the Chapelle note that set us on the path to 148 ft.  
    4.    here are the dotted lines that extend the bow all above the waterline.    Purely for speed, I am sure.  Later measuring this extension, as in the article it is 6.5 feet.  
    5    here is the rescaled keelson assembly.   I remade the building board template on the same drawing.    Now the first cutting
     
    6     Here are the bulkhead templates cut out   
    7     In this view we see the raised portion to support bulwark planking up to the rail.   I struggled with this detail on my last build [ it was at smaller 1:96 scale] to remove these “tabs” after the planking.   Since these must be removed to allow continuous stanchions at each frame[ 4 per bulkhead], as seen in the in the photo I found,  I have decided to remove these tabs now and then add stanchions later. We’ll see if it’s a better way to go .   
    8     here I am doing something new as well.  I chose to laminate the keelson assemble with three layers of basswood.  I used solid maple last time.  My reason was here there is more sheer to the assembly, so there will be three full joints. The overlapping allows a stronger joint both forward and aft.  
    9    Here after cutting out the keelson assembly one can see the considerable shear in this design. A butt joint would not have worked well.  The other reason is the width of the keel in the section drawing is only 3/16 [10in} where other heavy fishing schooner keels were ¼ “ [12-14 inches.]. this keel projectys further below the hull than other schooners.  We will address again later.  
    10-11   
     
     
     Here are progress images of a rough first dry fit as I approach the end of this phase. 
    Next up will be to complete the frame and get the first planking installed.  
     
    All for now
     
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    Jond got a reaction from ccoyle in Lightship WAL 605 Overfalls by Jond - based on Bluejacket Shipcrafters kit Nantucket - 1:98   
    9 The end
     
    It has been several months  since setting this model aside to wait for its partner.   Both this model and the Dragger Harvard of the Rice Brothers shipyard are now on display at the Boothbay Region Historical Society for the summer. I will give a talk in July on the History of this yard and its people and that event will end this effort. 
     
     
    Here are a few images of the display. They include my two models and three made by Robert Rice , grandson of the founding Rice Brother Henry.  Robert recently donated his collection to the society including these three models and 20 volumes [ one sample in photo] of photos, news clippings and other data tracking the 70 years of their work. the yard not only built 4 US :ightships, but 11 subchasers and 11 minesweepers during WWII.   the yard today ois the very successful Washburn and Doughty yard building many sea tugs.
     
     

     



    I am now off to another build and look forward to more sawdust
     
     
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    Jond got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Lightship WAL 605 Overfalls by Jond - based on Bluejacket Shipcrafters kit Nantucket - 1:98   
    9 The end
     
    It has been several months  since setting this model aside to wait for its partner.   Both this model and the Dragger Harvard of the Rice Brothers shipyard are now on display at the Boothbay Region Historical Society for the summer. I will give a talk in July on the History of this yard and its people and that event will end this effort. 
     
     
    Here are a few images of the display. They include my two models and three made by Robert Rice , grandson of the founding Rice Brother Henry.  Robert recently donated his collection to the society including these three models and 20 volumes [ one sample in photo] of photos, news clippings and other data tracking the 70 years of their work. the yard not only built 4 US :ightships, but 11 subchasers and 11 minesweepers during WWII.   the yard today ois the very successful Washburn and Doughty yard building many sea tugs.
     
     

     



    I am now off to another build and look forward to more sawdust
     
     
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    Jond got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Lightship WAL 605 Overfalls by Jond - based on Bluejacket Shipcrafters kit Nantucket - 1:98   
    post 8     sort of done with model phase

    This posting is a transition on this build.  My project typically includes lots of research and a resulting power point presentation or Museum slide show for our local Historic Society.  As I have said before, to me it is the story, of which the model is only part .  This story is of the Lightships, and full chapter of the Rice Brothers of East Boothbay.  I shared some stuff in the beginning. As we are in the process of scanning / digitizing the collection we have many rabbit holes to follow.  Rice brothers will consume me for years if I am not careful. there are lots of visuals we have to include as I go on.
     
    Today I share a few images of my struggles and a catchup overview.  We then have the inevitable punch list before closing in perhaps one more posting
     
    Struggles

     I worked on radio antenna cables that seem to be way over my pay grade, and one completed one more soldering job to make my interpretation of the foremast pin rail.
    1   here is the layout from the 1950 coast guard plans of the aerial.  The Nantucket kit came with shiny silver like thread.  Boy is it finicky.     
    2   here is my first of three set up jigs to try to make the assembly.   This one failed miserably.   I didn’t photo the others.  What I finished with was suspending a metal ruler and using hair pins to hold things just off the metal so the glue hopefully would not make a mess.   What is eventually on the model looks fine from 25 feet away. [ that suggests the next room] Up close it is twisted, and I cannot imagine how to make it straight with thread.    If I were able to do resistance soldering of fine copper or other wire that might work. I played with the fine brass railing from the kit material but did not come to any conclusion as how to attach two pieces finely that are then in tension and suspended.     
    3    here is soldering at a level I can do.  It is my interpretation of the pin rail on the foremast.  I showed the picture …post 7-2 that shows it on the far side of the mast. It is invisible but clearly projecting from the mast.  I chose piping to match what can be seen on the main mast. Progress 
     
    Open items include the foremast pin rail and lines to be rigged and possibly a case.  I am debating flags too.  There is a lot of touch up painting to do as well.  That never seems to end for me. 
    Here are 7 view of different angles.





    Next steps
     
    This build will rest for a while as I do the side-by-side story.   There are hundreds of designs built by Rice brothers 1892 to 1955.   I will do a final posting when the punch list is done and if I get a case. I tried to order it but am waiting. then of course the punch list.  
     
    As I tell their story there are a few more potential builds making a combined showing.  Some options include:
     
    1.    Break Rock one of two identical John Alden Schooners launched in 1925.  Renamed Bagheera and now 99-year-old Schooner sailing daily in Portland Me.  
    2.   Harvard  Built 1922-1926. Due to financial issues.  It was a steel dragger, one of three.  In WWII she was taken by the Navy increase in length and renamed Bellefonte.  After the war she was one of the Albatross NOAA vessels.  
    3.    Some other draggers.  The problem is finding plans.... more later as I chase Harvard.
    4.    1924/5 10 each coast guard Rum chasers. Look like fun but again, how to find plans?
    5.    WWII  they built subchasers and mine sweeps. So many already exist I will likely pass.
    I believe my next build will be Bagheera if can get the plans.  I have many on deck photos for the needed details.
     
    All for now 
     

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    Jond got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Lightship WAL 605 Overfalls by Jond - based on Bluejacket Shipcrafters kit Nantucket - 1:98   
    7 update on rigging and deck fittings
     
    It’s been a while since much progress as we took a vacation.  On the way home we dropped in to see Nic at Bluejacket, always a fun detour.   He shared with me a few hints and then explained their new case kit systems.  It looks great and I will be ordering one as part of this build.
     
    I have gone ahead and replaced all the rigging with smaller lines and glass beads.  The little black shine comes off of the beads, and a dab of white paint on the thread sort of says ‘SPLICE”.    The beads are as small as I have seen. 
     
    1     here we see from a few days back as I got the las lines redone.  I am sure there is a good reason they broke up the stays and shrouds into so many pieces. As they were splices, I do not see any advantage.  Work on deck…I am working back and forth inventing things to match the photos.  As always there are never enough views to explain everything. Let’s see what we have so far.
     
    2    I start with a mystery and joke on me.  Looking closely on this blow up, I was trying to figure where they tied off the lines from the foremast yard.   Looking past the mast I saw a type of pin rail.  It is painted the same brown tan color as other things, so I remain confused on where or what it might be. It must be attached to the mast. Is it just the rail itself welded?       
    3    I went ahead and made a pin rails stand so if placed it would be strong enough to take the lines.    It seems much too big.   Naturally there are no more photos I have seen of this area......   As to the lines, it looks like one on the starboard [ far side] is doubled to a ring giving 4 to one for heavier loads.   The mystery on the foremast rigging continues. The solution is  probably just to make a smaller and tighter rail with no outside stand/ leg and only be against the mast. too late to solder !    
    4    I am not positive but suspect these are the fog horns.  The fan on the bottom blowing into the large chamber and open top.  Well let’s assume it is and then figure how to make it.    
    5.   here is my approach.  Four concentric tubes over a bent rod.  Then two copper washers drilled, and copper wire soldered.  I will fill with glazing putty and see what comes.  
    6   here is a trial fit.  Lots of little supports to make too.  
    7.    I have found 6 closed chocks in my stash of unused parts from who knows where.  I need 8. When I stopped at Bluejacket they said they had no idea where I got them. They make some, but not in that size.  Well, I bent a brass rod into a u and passed it through a small plate and soldered.   The shape is too round but close enough for the last two that I need. General progress...Here are a few views of today’s status.
     
    8   The fore deck is getting close. I need braces on the water wall touch up paint and final step of rails. There are radio aerials and things to go and then the antenna wiring.  
    9   mid and after deck is coming.  Boats are in, and the raft setting partially painted.   Lots more stuff to go in and then the rails. If you look closely there is a tie off rail forward of the main mast that receives all the lines from the main yard.  Again, there are conduits to run up both masts and the lights and gear to figure out. The crew arrived this week too.  
     
    onward we go 
     
     
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    Jond got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Lightship WAL 605 Overfalls by Jond - based on Bluejacket Shipcrafters kit Nantucket - 1:98   
    6 mast tops and rigging
     
    I now have things in place or at least figured out...maybe.
     
    First up is a humorous finding.  The tops of the masts apparently kept changing in real life. The tops of Columbia’s masts today are the opposite of the tops of the Overalls’ masts. The 1950 plan shows a single platform on the fore mast and double platform on the main mast.  I have been focusing on Columbia because of the quality of the photo.  It is the opposite of what I am supposed to be doing. I got myself totally confused…..Let’s see below.
    1   here is Columbia today with a double deck platform on the foremast.  Several photos I have already posted show this arrangement.  So I changed things from the plan to this way….oops  
    2   here is Overfalls before she became Relief. Her mast tops agree with the plans, the double deck is the main mast.    I have been going nuts working from the plan then seeing the opposite. I have switched them. More than once.  Last week I unsoldered and resoldered the single deck as I was convinced it was done wrong....oops.  Also, I found the mast ladder to be on Port side not starboard.    Oh Well I am going with the plan and Overfalls picture. That means rework again, but since I figured out my problem hopefully only one more time.    Rigging 
     
    I got the rigging done….I thought anyway.  The good news it was sort of right.  The bad news is I think it is out of scale a bit.   I used the 2.5 MM bullseyes, the smallest I could buy. I could obviously have deleted them but thought I wanted to show all the little section of shroud / stays. I note after checking other lightship models ignore this element and that is why this one seems so odd.  The cables are all spliced and wrapped with white tape…I thought I wanted to show that too so spliced the connections using white thread.     Maybe it would look better when the rails are in place and other components fill in some of the deck. I will need to decide however before moving ahead to rig both the yard arms and radio wires if I need to go smaller.  
    3.   When I studied this detail photo, I felt the shroud was clearly 1 inch or more thick and the bullseye fitting nearly the size of a person’s head.   I thought it would be ok.  2.5 mm translates to 1/10th inch or about 9 inches.     
    4   here on the main mast we are all in.  The overall look in this photo though has me worried…. It just isn’t right. It is too busy.   
    5   here after setting one more of the bigger shrouds, I ran the other foremast shrouds and head stay in thinner thread and black beads. No splicing.    I think it looks better….Not sure yet what to do.  
    6   here we see both masts.    I think the bigger spliced lines and bullseyes must come off. Also in this view, the boat davits are not perfect, but I plan to move with the kit pieces and a few adjustments.  Adding the spreader pipe and rings helps.    
    7   This blow-up of Columbia gives us the details for the foredeck.  The windless is huge drum like piece. It has the anchor chain wrapped below.  There is another davit to add with hatches etc.  I also note the large chocks.   
    8   here we see the anchor chains and windless roughed in.  I decided to turn some wood and paint it and move forward. I envy the metal work artisans who would have turned these pieces in brass. I did solder up the break handles in brass.   All for now
     
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    2 First up are the sources for drawings. 
     
    I went to the Smithsonian catalogue and ordered the McManus design for both Oriole and Elizabeth Howard as prepared by Howard Chapelle.    Note this is actually very easy to do once you have hold of their catalogue.  It is unfortunate that it is not on line….[I think].
    1.    Here are the hull plans they shipped. They are basically at 1:32 scale just off a hair.    
    Before we get to the hull let’s gather all the other info we plan to use. There are no surviving drawings of the on-deck configuration nor sail plans, but artistic license should warrant a “close enough: / generic finishing above deck. So let’s find some photos.  Here is before bowsprit and racing with a bowsprit.
    2.  this view is one of two images I am after….note there is no bowsprit in the image. This shows the working vessel.   
    3    here we are racing in all her glory….the likely choice.       The other option having no deck plans could have been to use the great hull drawings and do all the in between framing and show it in the yard under construction.      I chose not to follow that approach for the "White Ghost" of Maine.  I think it is the sailing image of such a short lived thoroughbred racer to be the better way to go, so off we go.
    To complete my outreach at this point for the above deck, I will use two photo documents and will annotate them.   Once again, I have taken a broadside photo and embedded it in cad and scaled it. I found it strange with the subtle roll to starboard of the hull in this image, the masts are absolutely plum.  I will add a bit of a rake as can be seen above.
    4   .                          here is screen shot.  
    5    by example of the next steps, here is the spar plan.    
    6    here is the first sail plan. I will later do one for each sail. Where like this mainsail where they are larger than tabloid 11”x17” my printer limits, I have added coordinates to lay out the pattern manually.   Smaller sails will simply be printed. To place furniture on deck I will use the 1919 photo of her in the water swamped to give running on deck dimensions for the cabins that are visible.   There are also a few online images for Bulwarks etc.   
    7    Here is the partially annotated photo of on deck.    
    8    here is sample of online deck views .  Yes that is Columbia with I assume Captain Ben Pine ahead of us.
    I will then use Gertrude Theobald and Columbia plans that I have rolled up somewhere [ the once upon a time to build list] for added guidance.  More on that when we get there.
    Cheers 
     
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    15  we are done
     
    We have taken her to the Museum store, given our first summer talk on the a Arctic sailing of the Schooners Bowdoin and Blue Dolphin, so it is time to close up the folder.
    I have collected a view of her in the museum.The nice guy that used to make us glass boxes is no more , so as light as the model is, we decided it could just rest on top of the 1824 Pinky Schooner which rests next to Diorama Bowdoin.in their boxes.   
     
     
    here are several photos of the model before she went downtown


     
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    12 time to get the deck work done...but A few fixes need to be done first: 
     
    When David Nutt visited a while ago, he thought I have made the center cabins too wide.  He remembered a lot of room on the deck beside the cabins and the ability to walk inside the dory.  He also thought the raised impact on the size of the cabin dog houses below was minimal as the whole lower deck was quite deep . and had full dead room everywhere.  Now the masts are in and the bow work coming to an end, I need to sort this issue out.
     
    1    here is an overhead shot of what has been done.  The mockup dories come from another 10 year ago build.  They represent 5.5-foot-wide fishing dories from a sardine schooner of 1903.   In the current build with 10 foot wide cabin and 5.5 foot dories there is clearly no passage…..something is wrong  
    2    In this photo, from David Nutt collection of a 1952 cruise, we can see a few things to help. •    Using the people one can tell the dory are clearly closer to 4 feet wide than 5.5. •    Using the dory one can tell the edge of the cabin from center is roughly the same width ……ta da….. the cabins [ dog houses] really do need to be cut.   •    The passageway is less than 2 feet but still enough to get by So off we go and after removing our portlights, and with a little work with some saws we now have 8-foot cabins. 
    3   here in an overview we can see the better relationship of cabin dory etc. after I cut the blocks down to support 8 foot in scale.  
    4.   in this view better to see the work to get this fix done.   •    Decking has to be revised and filled in some more…..not too bad •    The house cleaned up, roof decks cut back, cladding added, port lights drilled out and set and then trim added.   The Second fix is the lettering etc. at the bow area.
     
    5    look more at this phot I knew something was wrong …but what  
    6    putting this 1952 photo over it I see my goof.   The anchor hawse pipe came almost straight out and not down enough.  There is no room for the cove line to pass foreword.   So,  I dowel led up the hole and redrilled very carefully with a slope.  Thank goodness the wood is maple so no issues.   I did cheat however and only drilled the hole full size.  I did not dill it bigger and insert and brass hawse pipe…..sorry  
    7   here I took some 1/16 tape I had to be sure there was decent clearance. I also confirmed that this size is not good.  I need to use smaller tape. It does not come in as many colors. Oh my.  
    8    the color is not perfect but close.  Here we are back together.  
    9   the other side finally  
    10    and yes, the stern is all redone too.  
    All for now... I has started the sails and running rigging as I complete the bow deck work
     
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    The Schooner Blue Dolphin 
     
     
    BD 01.  The Beginning
     
    I start this new log with a little nervous excitement. Fortunately, it is only 'father time' making it scary.   The story of the Blue Dolphin I am finding is quite interesting, but my knowing a principal character in this play and having the possibility of meeting more of them is really exciting.  The big fear for me is the short deadline to prepare for a conference next June to celebrate the three schooners that combine both Boothbay Harbor, Maine, and Arctic Explorations in their history.  
    First at the highest level let me offer the plan for the panel discussion next summer. There were three schooners that fit the bill. 
     
    The first was Bowdoin. She was built here in 1921 and returned many times while leaving for or returning from the far north.  She was recently replanked here in 2018-19. While here I got to climb all over her with Will McLean her captain and I built a diorama depicting her in Greenland in the spring of 1924. In more recent times, she sails here most every year, normally for the same Windjammer week that would include our panel discussion. The second was Ernestina Morrissey.  There are many connections of people that will come out as we tell this story. In short, her long history included many seasons sailing in Greenland especially 1935- 1940 when a local summer resident / college student was on her every summer.   She came to Boothbay again in 2015 to be completely rebuilt. I had the fortune to climb through her many times and meet the crew that did the work.  I built another diorama depicting her in her 2021 rebuild.    The third will be Blue Dolphin.  The connecting history is the owner who bought her in 1949 and led scientific expeditions from Boothbay to the arctic from 1949 to about 1954.  The owner and captain David C Nutt Sr had sailed on Effie Morrissey, was the executive officer on Bowdoin in her early WWII days, and then captained the Blue Dolphin.  His son still lives here and has many memories to share.  
    I will be building a model of her in the same 1:48 scale of the other two, to present as part of the panel event next June.  Ah then JUNE!!!! … the downside of this venture … That means I need to get to work right away.   I need to put down or at least drastically slow down the build I am doing now and jump into this build with only 5 months to do the work.   
     
    Blue Dolphin  brief History
     
    So first let’s look a little more at Blue Dolphin and see what we must do. What do we know, and where are plans and photos?   She was designed by William Roue and built in Shelbourne, Nova Scotia in 1926.  Mr. Stephen H Velie Jr of Kansas City retained William Roue, the architect of the well-known 1921 schooner Bluenose.  The charge was to design a 100-foot version of Bluenose to be fit out as a yacht for ocean cruising.  The vessel was built in Shelbourne, Nova Scotia in 1926. The owner kept her there until 1933 and reportedly took long trips north.
     
    In 1933 Blue Dolphin was sold to Amory Coolidge of Boston.  In the first year she was chartered by the Ralph Chandler family, who sailed on a five-month cruise to the Galapagos islands and back.  Nina Chandler Murray was a 13-year-old part of that family and in recent years has published a book, The Cruise of the Blue Dolphin detailing their family adventure. ( a fun read)
     
    In 1942 the vessel was sold to the navy for $1 and she was assigned to be on station in Casco Bay off Portland Maine. One might recall Bowdoin was similarly taken over by the navy.
    1.    in this photo we see her with a cabin built around the helm [ Maine winter duty is cold!!!].  The Navy painted her white.  She was repainted black when she came to Boothbay after the war.   
     
    In 1949 Blue Dolphin had been decommissioned and was sold to David C Nutt Sr. , a summer resident of Boothbay Me. David was an active participant in the arctic exploring world and for roughly 5 summers led scientific cruises to the arctic.   Records of these cruises are part of Woods Hole Institute archive, Dartmouth College, and other groups.  As mentioned above, Captain Nutt had a history that ties together our three schooners who frequented Boothbay Harbor and the arctic.
    Who was David C Nutt Sr.
     
    David C. Nutt Sr. as a student at Dartmouth College sailed every summer on Effie Morrissey, now Ernestina Morrisey, with Captain Bob Bartlett from 1935 to 1940. David is mentioned several times in the history of the Effie Morrisey and fondly remembered by Bob Bartlett the well know skipper.
    Bowdoin.  David Nutt Sr became the U S Navy exec. officer on board Bowdoin during her early WWII days. They were surveying to find the best airbase locations in Greenland.  David left after completing that mission and went to the pacific to continue ocean surveying as part of the Pacific campaign. When he returned, he found Bowdoin committed to return to Capt. Donald MacMillan and Blue Dolphin available. After buying her, Blue Dolphin came to sail out of Boothbay in 1949.  After 5 years of northern cruises, she stayed in the harbor until the early 1970’s. She was then sold and moved to the great lakes. More on that story later.

    Where to get drawings????
     
    David Nutt Jr. is a neighbor and friend of several years.  David was a professional boat builder. One of his joys after selling his business, and by the way sailing for four years around the world with his whole family, was restoration of classic racing sailboats.   David restored my Boothbay Harbor One design, a 1941 classic 21-foot beauty.   More on the story in my BHOD log for the two 42-inch RC models I built a few years ago. There were many views of his work included in that log.   
    I contacted David a few months ago when the possibility if this schooner project came up.  David owns, and kindly shared with me last week, an old print of the lines of Blue Dolphin. He also built a Half model years ago. The black paint on the hull is the same as on the real schooner.   
    2.    David Nutt sharing his old print of Blue Dolphin
    3    David Nutt’s Half model of Blue Dolphin he built many years ago.  
     
    So, with about 25 photos so far from the internet and the local Boothbay Region Historical Society along with these plans, we are ready to begin.  First up I embedded the squared-up photograph in my 2D cad.     David said he has many more on deck photos and we hope to get to see them this winter.  My intent would be to try to depict the 1950 sailing version as it applies to our town.

    Much to do to get ready
     
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    12 The end......
     
    It has been a while since i last updated this log, and now I am planning another build, so  I thought I needed to add the display photos of the completed model and close this log.
     
    I include a batch of 10 photos I took a while back. Unfortunately the crew had not yet arrived.
     

     








    This summer we are celebrating the Rice Brothers shipyard at the local Boothbay Region Historical Society.  As I have shared in the log previously, I have been meeting regularly with Robert Rice the last living heir and grandson of the founding brother Henry.  Robert has also donated much of his work to the society this spring.

    Here are 2  photos of the combined display showing his three Models along with my two.   I will give a talk in July and then it will be done.
    Here are views of the combine collection and my contribution.
     


     
    on to the next one...Jon
     
     
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    12 The end......
     
    It has been a while since i last updated this log, and now I am planning another build, so  I thought I needed to add the display photos of the completed model and close this log.
     
    I include a batch of 10 photos I took a while back. Unfortunately the crew had not yet arrived.
     

     








    This summer we are celebrating the Rice Brothers shipyard at the local Boothbay Region Historical Society.  As I have shared in the log previously, I have been meeting regularly with Robert Rice the last living heir and grandson of the founding brother Henry.  Robert has also donated much of his work to the society this spring.

    Here are 2  photos of the combined display showing his three Models along with my two.   I will give a talk in July and then it will be done.
    Here are views of the combine collection and my contribution.
     


     
    on to the next one...Jon
     
     
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    12 The end......
     
    It has been a while since i last updated this log, and now I am planning another build, so  I thought I needed to add the display photos of the completed model and close this log.
     
    I include a batch of 10 photos I took a while back. Unfortunately the crew had not yet arrived.
     

     








    This summer we are celebrating the Rice Brothers shipyard at the local Boothbay Region Historical Society.  As I have shared in the log previously, I have been meeting regularly with Robert Rice the last living heir and grandson of the founding brother Henry.  Robert has also donated much of his work to the society this spring.

    Here are 2  photos of the combined display showing his three Models along with my two.   I will give a talk in July and then it will be done.
    Here are views of the combine collection and my contribution.
     


     
    on to the next one...Jon
     
     
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    2 First up are the sources for drawings. 
     
    I went to the Smithsonian catalogue and ordered the McManus design for both Oriole and Elizabeth Howard as prepared by Howard Chapelle.    Note this is actually very easy to do once you have hold of their catalogue.  It is unfortunate that it is not on line….[I think].
    1.    Here are the hull plans they shipped. They are basically at 1:32 scale just off a hair.    
    Before we get to the hull let’s gather all the other info we plan to use. There are no surviving drawings of the on-deck configuration nor sail plans, but artistic license should warrant a “close enough: / generic finishing above deck. So let’s find some photos.  Here is before bowsprit and racing with a bowsprit.
    2.  this view is one of two images I am after….note there is no bowsprit in the image. This shows the working vessel.   
    3    here we are racing in all her glory….the likely choice.       The other option having no deck plans could have been to use the great hull drawings and do all the in between framing and show it in the yard under construction.      I chose not to follow that approach for the "White Ghost" of Maine.  I think it is the sailing image of such a short lived thoroughbred racer to be the better way to go, so off we go.
    To complete my outreach at this point for the above deck, I will use two photo documents and will annotate them.   Once again, I have taken a broadside photo and embedded it in cad and scaled it. I found it strange with the subtle roll to starboard of the hull in this image, the masts are absolutely plum.  I will add a bit of a rake as can be seen above.
    4   .                          here is screen shot.  
    5    by example of the next steps, here is the spar plan.    
    6    here is the first sail plan. I will later do one for each sail. Where like this mainsail where they are larger than tabloid 11”x17” my printer limits, I have added coordinates to lay out the pattern manually.   Smaller sails will simply be printed. To place furniture on deck I will use the 1919 photo of her in the water swamped to give running on deck dimensions for the cabins that are visible.   There are also a few online images for Bulwarks etc.   
    7    Here is the partially annotated photo of on deck.    
    8    here is sample of online deck views .  Yes that is Columbia with I assume Captain Ben Pine ahead of us.
    I will then use Gertrude Theobald and Columbia plans that I have rolled up somewhere [ the once upon a time to build list] for added guidance.  More on that when we get there.
    Cheers 
     
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    1 part b the oops revisited.  
     
    Thank you all for your interest.  the short answer is Allan once again is right on. I add this reply to the first post.
     
    I am  happy that I will be able to answer the query as to what is in the photo of the January 1919 accident.  Fortunately, there are a few more views that I share here.  As the story goes, three years after her launch she was sailing by on her way to Boston and decided to come into the yard of her birth for a pit stop.  The crew at the time were most likely not local Mainers, Boothbay at any rate. When they anchored, they were over a ledge, and unfortunately, they all went ashore for a break.  Town is about two miles or so away and out of view. As the tide went out, over she went.   See these two added photos.
    4.    looking East across the Damariscotta River  5    Looking west toward east Boothbay.  That is the Hodgdon Brothers yard in the view.  I took the image I shared before and annotated if for the record.  In this view of interest, one can also see all three of the 1919 active yards of East Boothbay.    One can then see the derrick barge beyond the hull.  Presumably this photo is after they had pumped and rolled her back a bit. If one looks clearly ,as Allan did, the lighter colored bow is there.   
     
    6    here we see the annotations. In these early days she sailed as designed with no bow sprit.  That appendage came later when racing.
     
    Just for fun I share a more recent photo of other sailors “ from away” coming into Boothbay and anchoring over a ledge….oops.  
    7.     sailors “ from Away” fortunately, this event ended well as reportedly the crew had a nice evening in town and then about midnight, at high tide,  Sea Tow got them away.
    Cheers 
     
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    1 The beginning   
     
    This part of a build tends to take the longest time.  I have been mulling over modeling this schooner for at least 5 years.  Where to begin?   My introduction to her was seeing two pictures at our local Boothbay Region Historical Society. One view was of her launch and a second of an accident later in the same home harbor. 
     
     
     
    1      launch day  
    2    oops inexperienced crew perhaps better said " from away" anchored over a ledge, and we have 10-foot tide.    
     
    The story and other images are in our local newspaper as a history article.   It was January 1919, and she was full of fish.  They pumped her out, took her to town, unloaded the fish, and raised her on the railway.   All was well so then back to work. She was more of a hauler of mackerel than a fisherman in those days. 
     
     
    Having recently completed my big Bluenose I moved onto other builds.   Then a few years later I learned about her racing history….wow and from Maine too!
    3.     great view as she completed the Lipton Cup race in 1923 with Ben Pine at the wheel. this image came from Facebook site for the Fisherman Festival in Gloucester  
    I then fell into an article from NRJ vol 46 starting on page 12.    A member, Daniel Turner, did yeoman’s work to uncover the story of her mysterious length.   Unfortunately, there are no surviving records from the Adams Shipyard here in Boothbay.  Paul Adams, a grandson to the last builder is past 95.   Sharp as a tack, he came to my talk a few years back on the history of the Boothbay Shipyards and sat in the front row.  He corrected a spelling in one of my slides but alas when talking after he had nothing to do with the yards.  As a matter of record, they had closed by 1921.
    Back to the story of why this build.   I am trying to build things for each of our yards.  The Adams family shipbuilding started about 1810 and ended 110 years later.   Pinky schooners first and then many schooners, a few brigs, a ship, and other vessels ending with some tugboats and a motor yacht in 1920.  Their last sailing vessel was the 3-masted schooner, Priscilla Alden. launched in 1918.  I started to build a model of that schooner a few years back, but the records here showed a discrepancy in length of the Priscilla Alden, that I documented there and had to make a choice of who to follow. I chose to defer and build another schooner, the Ada Cliff built across town. 
     
    Having recently built two steel hulled vessels I felt it time to go back in time a bit and take on another Schooner. I have about 5 of them on my to-build list and the White Ghost looks like a fun place to start.   I highly recommend any schooner lovers out there, especially any Mainers or Bluenose people to chase down the NRJ article The Schooner Elizabeth Howard and enjoyed it. Ten years ago, I built a big Bluenose [ 1:24 scale]. I went to Lunenburg twice over that build and fell in love with the saga of the Fisherman’s Cup Races.
     
    In several books they talk about the challenger, but some focus was given to the field of contenders. More so when like the Starling Burgess designed Schooner Mayflower owners tried to enter. What they had built was truly a racing machine that only looked like a fisherman. She was kept out of the races due primarily to the small volume below decks set up to race and not to collect fish. It is interesting to note that one of the schooner Elizabeth Howard’s options was to be sold to the schooner Mayflower owners to use as a match boat if Mayflower ever would be qualified for the Fisherman Cup.
    There is a bit of fate to this story too.   The Schooner Elizabeth Howard was bult in 1916 and was quickly followed by her 126-foot sister the Louise Howard in 1917.   To satisfy her owner, Thomas McManus took is 1908 design for the schooner Oriole and extended her bow.   As said above…she had to be fast!  In her early years she was known for speedy long runs full of fish that she typically bought in Nova Scotia to race south. She was reported to do 16 knots in a good blow.  When the Fisherman Cup races became popular in 1920, her owner wanted to get involved.
     
    The problem she had at first was that she was not associated with the Gloucester in-crowd.  With a New York owner, and having been built in Maine, she was not accepted to enter the races.   After the 1921 loss to Bluenose the Americans were scrambling for the next year rematch.   The top two schooners to contend amongst four were Henry Ford and Puritan.  The Puritan, designed by Starling Burgess, was launched in March 1922.  As part of her prequalification, she was off to the grand banks to fish.   Disaster struck and she was lost in her first summer. Ben Pine [ future Columbia and Gertrude Theobald skipper] was preparing to race her so now he was looking for help. After Elizabeth made a reported amazing fast sailing return trip to Boston from the banks and the schooner Puritan was lost, Ben Pine, made arrangement to get Elizabeth qualified. He then took her on and in 1922.   In the best 2 of 3 series, she raced but broke a topmast on the first day and was beaten by the schooner Henry Ford in light air on the second day.  The Schooner Henry Ford competed for the Fisherman’s Cup but lost to Bluenose. 
     
    Elizabeth won the Lipton Cup races  in 1923 but after that win, Ben Pine moved on to the new Starling Burgess designed Columbia.   There is a large collection of photo images of these races on the Boston Library website.  Elizabeth’s distinct white hull surely makes an impression, and it is easy to see how she got her name…the White Ghost. The unfortunate end of her story connects her fate to the schooner Puritan. It was later in the fall of 1923 when just like Puritan, she was lost off the coast of Nova Scotia. 
     
    What was her length?
     
    Let’s look at her lines for a moment.   Daniel’s NRJ article touches on the racing and then proposes a solution to the length mystery saga of the Elizabeth Howard.  She was designed by the renown Thomas F. McManus.  Howard Chapelle includes the lines of Elizabeth Howard shown annotated over the lines of an earlier 1908 schooner Oriole.   The schooner Oriole was 127 feet at the rail.  The only change was to push the bow forward [ in scale] 6.5 feet.    The only reason to do this would be for speed. she started as a knockabout [ no bowsprit]. The confusion comes from a note on the Chapelle document stating the length at the rail being 148.  
     
    The short version of Daniels work is a follows.
    •    A Fisherman Cup racing vessel must be less than 150 feet.
    •    The reported bowsprit added to Elizabeth was 14 feet long.
    •    If one scaled the Chapelle drawing showing the extension one gets 133’6”
    •    Add the bowsprit and you are under 150 at the recorded 148 feet.
    Go with the 133’6”.     I think that is more than good enough and it is what I will try to build.  
     
     All for now
     
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    2 First up are the sources for drawings. 
     
    I went to the Smithsonian catalogue and ordered the McManus design for both Oriole and Elizabeth Howard as prepared by Howard Chapelle.    Note this is actually very easy to do once you have hold of their catalogue.  It is unfortunate that it is not on line….[I think].
    1.    Here are the hull plans they shipped. They are basically at 1:32 scale just off a hair.    
    Before we get to the hull let’s gather all the other info we plan to use. There are no surviving drawings of the on-deck configuration nor sail plans, but artistic license should warrant a “close enough: / generic finishing above deck. So let’s find some photos.  Here is before bowsprit and racing with a bowsprit.
    2.  this view is one of two images I am after….note there is no bowsprit in the image. This shows the working vessel.   
    3    here we are racing in all her glory….the likely choice.       The other option having no deck plans could have been to use the great hull drawings and do all the in between framing and show it in the yard under construction.      I chose not to follow that approach for the "White Ghost" of Maine.  I think it is the sailing image of such a short lived thoroughbred racer to be the better way to go, so off we go.
    To complete my outreach at this point for the above deck, I will use two photo documents and will annotate them.   Once again, I have taken a broadside photo and embedded it in cad and scaled it. I found it strange with the subtle roll to starboard of the hull in this image, the masts are absolutely plum.  I will add a bit of a rake as can be seen above.
    4   .                          here is screen shot.  
    5    by example of the next steps, here is the spar plan.    
    6    here is the first sail plan. I will later do one for each sail. Where like this mainsail where they are larger than tabloid 11”x17” my printer limits, I have added coordinates to lay out the pattern manually.   Smaller sails will simply be printed. To place furniture on deck I will use the 1919 photo of her in the water swamped to give running on deck dimensions for the cabins that are visible.   There are also a few online images for Bulwarks etc.   
    7    Here is the partially annotated photo of on deck.    
    8    here is sample of online deck views .  Yes that is Columbia with I assume Captain Ben Pine ahead of us.
    I will then use Gertrude Theobald and Columbia plans that I have rolled up somewhere [ the once upon a time to build list] for added guidance.  More on that when we get there.
    Cheers 
     
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    2 First up are the sources for drawings. 
     
    I went to the Smithsonian catalogue and ordered the McManus design for both Oriole and Elizabeth Howard as prepared by Howard Chapelle.    Note this is actually very easy to do once you have hold of their catalogue.  It is unfortunate that it is not on line….[I think].
    1.    Here are the hull plans they shipped. They are basically at 1:32 scale just off a hair.    
    Before we get to the hull let’s gather all the other info we plan to use. There are no surviving drawings of the on-deck configuration nor sail plans, but artistic license should warrant a “close enough: / generic finishing above deck. So let’s find some photos.  Here is before bowsprit and racing with a bowsprit.
    2.  this view is one of two images I am after….note there is no bowsprit in the image. This shows the working vessel.   
    3    here we are racing in all her glory….the likely choice.       The other option having no deck plans could have been to use the great hull drawings and do all the in between framing and show it in the yard under construction.      I chose not to follow that approach for the "White Ghost" of Maine.  I think it is the sailing image of such a short lived thoroughbred racer to be the better way to go, so off we go.
    To complete my outreach at this point for the above deck, I will use two photo documents and will annotate them.   Once again, I have taken a broadside photo and embedded it in cad and scaled it. I found it strange with the subtle roll to starboard of the hull in this image, the masts are absolutely plum.  I will add a bit of a rake as can be seen above.
    4   .                          here is screen shot.  
    5    by example of the next steps, here is the spar plan.    
    6    here is the first sail plan. I will later do one for each sail. Where like this mainsail where they are larger than tabloid 11”x17” my printer limits, I have added coordinates to lay out the pattern manually.   Smaller sails will simply be printed. To place furniture on deck I will use the 1919 photo of her in the water swamped to give running on deck dimensions for the cabins that are visible.   There are also a few online images for Bulwarks etc.   
    7    Here is the partially annotated photo of on deck.    
    8    here is sample of online deck views .  Yes that is Columbia with I assume Captain Ben Pine ahead of us.
    I will then use Gertrude Theobald and Columbia plans that I have rolled up somewhere [ the once upon a time to build list] for added guidance.  More on that when we get there.
    Cheers 
     
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    Jond got a reaction from ccoyle in Elizabeth Howard by Jond - 1:48 - The White Ghost - Schooner   
    2 First up are the sources for drawings. 
     
    I went to the Smithsonian catalogue and ordered the McManus design for both Oriole and Elizabeth Howard as prepared by Howard Chapelle.    Note this is actually very easy to do once you have hold of their catalogue.  It is unfortunate that it is not on line….[I think].
    1.    Here are the hull plans they shipped. They are basically at 1:32 scale just off a hair.    
    Before we get to the hull let’s gather all the other info we plan to use. There are no surviving drawings of the on-deck configuration nor sail plans, but artistic license should warrant a “close enough: / generic finishing above deck. So let’s find some photos.  Here is before bowsprit and racing with a bowsprit.
    2.  this view is one of two images I am after….note there is no bowsprit in the image. This shows the working vessel.   
    3    here we are racing in all her glory….the likely choice.       The other option having no deck plans could have been to use the great hull drawings and do all the in between framing and show it in the yard under construction.      I chose not to follow that approach for the "White Ghost" of Maine.  I think it is the sailing image of such a short lived thoroughbred racer to be the better way to go, so off we go.
    To complete my outreach at this point for the above deck, I will use two photo documents and will annotate them.   Once again, I have taken a broadside photo and embedded it in cad and scaled it. I found it strange with the subtle roll to starboard of the hull in this image, the masts are absolutely plum.  I will add a bit of a rake as can be seen above.
    4   .                          here is screen shot.  
    5    by example of the next steps, here is the spar plan.    
    6    here is the first sail plan. I will later do one for each sail. Where like this mainsail where they are larger than tabloid 11”x17” my printer limits, I have added coordinates to lay out the pattern manually.   Smaller sails will simply be printed. To place furniture on deck I will use the 1919 photo of her in the water swamped to give running on deck dimensions for the cabins that are visible.   There are also a few online images for Bulwarks etc.   
    7    Here is the partially annotated photo of on deck.    
    8    here is sample of online deck views .  Yes that is Columbia with I assume Captain Ben Pine ahead of us.
    I will then use Gertrude Theobald and Columbia plans that I have rolled up somewhere [ the once upon a time to build list] for added guidance.  More on that when we get there.
    Cheers 
     
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