Bob the Builder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share #31 Posted June 28, 2015 Made some progress on the schooner this weekend... Griffon, GuntherMT, egkb and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted June 28, 2015 I built my own gratings according to the practicum, and made a ladder to down below... Griffon, egkb and Overworked724 3 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share #33 Posted June 28, 2015 I just noticed , the camera tells me what I need to tidy up! Dan Vadas 1 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share #34 Posted June 28, 2015 Made the volutes from rolled up air-dry clay, and blended in to the cap rails. Looks like some more sanding shaping is in order. egkb, Overworked724, Chuck Seiler and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share #35 Posted June 28, 2015 I'm doing a combination hand-building some things, and using some of the cast-metal items supplies with the kit, such as the windlass, binnacle, galley stack, and figurehead. The windlass will be improved upon with hand mixing and painting for the impression of Oak, then weathered a bit... AON 1 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share #36 Posted June 28, 2015 The transom is next - I've added height to the overall shape as Mr Passaro outlines in the practicum, and I too, will give depth and dimension by stacking two 1/32 sheets together (the first layer will hold the window detail, the outer layer will show architectural details... AON and Canute 2 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share #37 Posted June 28, 2015 From posting these pictures right after a day's work, I've learned that maybe I should make some pictures, and then study them to see what details can be finished in a better way before I post them for all to see. It gives an honest perspective that I don't have staring at the project all day on my bench... Canute and Dan Vadas 2 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted June 29, 2015 Share #38 Posted June 29, 2015 Are your gratings finished or dry fitted? I ask because I believe they should be set into each other (like egg crating or those divider cardboard sheets between bottles at the liquor store) so the top side and underside are flush. Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share #39 Posted June 29, 2015 I wasn't really sure how to make gratings without those notched pieces that I saw in the practicum that were purchased separately. Maybe I should slice some openings in each piece of wood, and push them together so everything finishes on one plane? Canute 1 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted June 29, 2015 Share #40 Posted June 29, 2015 In my experience ,unless you have the correct wood and tools ,buying gratings is a much simpler solution . The camera can show up a few suprises,it,s a bit like a third eye ? Canute 1 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share #41 Posted June 29, 2015 I got on a scratch-building kick, before opening the kit bags. I'm gonna go back and use the cast gratings supplied with the kit. I think I can detail-paint to make those appear to be wood. shihawk and Chuck Seiler 2 Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted June 29, 2015 Share #42 Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) This will sound easier than it is... Practice on two or four scrap pieces first. Take all your pieces (top and bottom) and use CA glue (a very extremely small dab) at a similar corner at both ends and secure them to a base board, side by side, in line, solder style to look like one solid piece, Let this cure. Mark off the thickness of the pieces with a very sharp pointed soft HB pencil and a 90° square perpendicular (across) to the joints Cut into the pieces (straight down, light cuts) with a sharp thin blade (exacto) knife to not more than half the thickness of the pieces following the lines Chisel out the notch making light diagonal cuts Fold some sand paper and using the edge sand out the humps... or use the edge of a nail file if it will work Use rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball to wet the glued ends of the wood, let this soak in for some time to free the glued ends. Do not force the pieces apart however tempting this may seem. The rubbing alcohol will dissolve the glue and you should be able to twist them off. Dry fit the notched pieces together If they look reasonably good glue them together to make your rough grating Very lightly sand top and bottom sides to be flush and you are done There is no better feeling then having done it yourself! Edited June 29, 2015 by AON Canute, Bob the Builder, Overworked724 and 1 other 4 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted June 29, 2015 Share #43 Posted June 29, 2015 I got on a scratch-building kick, before opening the kit bags. I'm gonna go back and use the cast gratings supplied with the kit. I think I can detail-paint to make those appear to be wood. Check out the grating kits offered by Chuck P's SYREN Ship Modeling Company. I have made my own in the past, but just finished up one of these. Very nice! Bob the Builder and Canute 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share #44 Posted June 29, 2015 Chuck - I may end up doing that, but first I think I will try Alan's advice on building my own (I have tons of extra lumber), I was hoping not to spend any more on extras for this build. Quote Current Build : Sultana Schooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Vadas Posted August 12, 2015 Share #45 Posted August 12, 2015 Hi Bob, Check out THIS LINK in my build log where I'm making Parrels - lots of them! You can use the same technique for making your gratings. Danny Quote Cheers, Danny ________________________________________________________________________________ Current Build : Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues Build Logs : Norfolk Sloop HMS Vulture - (TFFM) HMS Vulture Cross-section 18 foot Cutter Concord Stagecoach 18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE CARD Model Build Logs : Mosel Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen) WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski) Rolls Royce Merlin Engine Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV) Stug 40 (Halinski) Yamaha MT-01 Yamaha YA-1 HMS Hood (Halinski) Bismarck (GPM) IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski) HMVS Cerberus Mi24D Hind (Halinski) Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (Modelik) Tanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik) Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik) Peterbuilt Semi Trailer Fender Guitar Restorations for Others : King of the Mississippi HMS Victory Gallery : Norfolk Sloop, HMAT Supply, HMS Bounty, HMS Victory, Charles W. Morgan, 18' Cutter for HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture Cross-section, 18th Century Longboat in a Bottle Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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