hof00 Posted January 30, 2016 Author #61 Posted January 30, 2016 Hi Chap, Yup, am pleased that the fist cover is done. Happy with the Keel also, I'll be able to do a wee Rebate and slot the second cover in. I'll be using the Kit supplied 0.5mm Walnut. Already had a trial fitting and flows nicely around the curves. (As I think I mentioned in the past, this is my first "Bluff" Bow Ship model, more used to pointy Bow Ships.) Have a good rest of the weekend!! Cheers....HOF. Cabbie 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted January 30, 2016 #62 Posted January 30, 2016 Sounds good Hof. You are doing yours with correct technique, something I will have to try next time. I am hoping it rains tomorrow then I have an excuse to stay inside and do more planking. Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
hof00 Posted January 30, 2016 Author #63 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Hi Chap, They, (Ship Models), are all different. Different in shape and approach. I really don't think that there is a "Correct" method. What looks/feels good and looks good is the "Bomb." If I can give you some "Qdos/Encouragemet" I think that your work is that of an experienced Model Ship Wright!! (Don't doubt yourself!!) Your build is looking great!! I am also hoping for Rain!! Edited January 30, 2016 by hof00 Cabbie 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
thomaslambo Posted January 30, 2016 #64 Posted January 30, 2016 Hi Chap, Yup, am pleased that the fist cover is done. Happy with the Keel also, I'll be able to do a wee Rebate and slot the second cover in. I'll be using the Kit supplied 0.5mm Walnut. Already had a trial fitting and flows nicely around the curves. (As I think I mentioned in the past, this is my first "Bluff" Bow Ship model, more used to pointy Bow Ships.) Have a good rest of the weekend!! Cheers....HOF. Hi Harry, Lucky you having 2 layers of planks...she's looking good It looks like you're doing a great job smoothing out the first layer. Just one thought, .5 mm thickness on the second layer doesn't give you much room for sanding. You might want to consider 1.0 mm, otherwise you better make it perfect my friend markjay 1 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
markjay Posted January 30, 2016 #65 Posted January 30, 2016 Looking good, nice first planking and shapingMark Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted January 30, 2016 Author #66 Posted January 30, 2016 Hi All, Thanks for the kind comments!! O.k. not too concerned about 0.5mm second cover. Ill use the adhesive on the plank and "Steam" on with a little judicious heat from my trusty Plank Bender. Sanding this stuff has proved no problem in the past as it's nice and hard, so, takes a lot of sanding to cut through!! Yup, am indeed lucky that it's double Planked.... Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
hof00 Posted February 6, 2016 Author #67 Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Some progress.... 0.5mm Walnut for the second planking.... Had a chat to Boyd last night, he did warn me that 0.5mm was getting pretty thin, especially after a bit of a san!! Anyway, about 1/2 is done and I must think about Drop Planks at the Bow as things are going to start bunching up. Used CA for each Plank at the Bow, Aliphatic Resin, (Sandable PVA), heated with my Plank Bender thingy. The glue boils and sets in seconds. The only issue is that it "Erupts" and makes a bit of a mess on the Planks previously laid. A bit of masking tape resolves this and 180 Grit paper sends the Dross packing!! NZ Holiday Monday, Waitangi Day, so should be able to get more done.... Anyway, Photos.... Edited February 6, 2016 by hof00 markjay, Captain Slog, thomaslambo and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted February 7, 2016 #68 Posted February 7, 2016 Hi Hof Your planking is coming along well, looks nice and tight. It is certainly a test of stamina doing planking. It will be good when we can both get the poly out and put a finish on the hull. Enjoy the day off with plenty of planking Thanks Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
hof00 Posted February 7, 2016 Author #69 Posted February 7, 2016 Cheers Ears!! Yup, Planking is progressing, I do like my Heat source, (Plank bender), makes things a little more "rapid." HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted February 7, 2016 #70 Posted February 7, 2016 It would certainly be quicker than soaking for a day. I just figured it wasn't worth trying with my .8mm thick planks Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
Cabbie Posted February 19, 2016 #71 Posted February 19, 2016 Good Morning Hof Just checking to see how things are going. The lower planking is certainly time consuming and fiddly to do. How is it going? Have you given much thought to the various, portholes, openings, hinges? What are they properly called? I am waiting to see what you do with yours . I haven't got a clue. Except I don't like the metal ones supplied with the kit. Cheers Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
hof00 Posted February 21, 2016 Author #72 Posted February 21, 2016 Hi Chap, Thanks for stopping by. Almost finished the 2nd planking, bit of a mission. "Prototyped" Bill Boards or as A/L call them, "Anchor Linings." Had a look at the positions of the Mast Holes, I am a little concerned as the Sheer Plan is a little inaccurate and comparing to the "Full size" photos that constitute the Pan and side views, it is even more confusing, so maybe someone can enlighten me? It's all a bit of "Guesstimation" with this kit. Been having a look at the various hatches, etc I think I'll stay with the metal ones supplied, maybe a touch of paint if necessary. I think the idea is to rebate them into the Hull in their various positions. I'll look at these after I get some Sanding Sealer/Paint on the Hull. I'll try to get some photos uploaded next weekend. Cheers....HOF. Cabbie 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
hof00 Posted February 29, 2016 Author #73 Posted February 29, 2016 Well no progress photos after the weekends' efforts, maybe next Weekend? Anyway, more Planking and completed the second layer. Rather embarrassingly, I managed to "Cut Through" some of this at the Bow and unfortunately in between the Channels and Whales that will be left wood, not painted. So, I have now Triple Planked above the Channels and down to the Whales, below the Whales is o.k. Lesson learnt, sand more slowly and choose the Grit more carefully!! (Should have listened to Boyd!!) The Hull thus far has certainly given me a few "Curve Balls." Does anyone know an accurate location on the Deck for Stepping the Masts? (I am not 100% confident on the accuracy of the Sheer Plan or "Photos" that are supposed to be "Plan Like.") That's me for the mo. Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
hof00 Posted February 29, 2016 Author #74 Posted February 29, 2016 Some progress pictures.... Final sanding yet to be done between Channels and Whales. This will be left natural wood, the rest will be painted as per the replica. Looks a bit rough but early days. Cabbie, Captain Slog, markjay and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted March 1, 2016 #75 Posted March 1, 2016 Hi Hof She is looking like a ship now. You are well on the way. The sanding makes a huge difference and with the poly on it will bring her to life. Whats next? air, light ports, channels or some work on the deck furniture. Cheers Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
hof00 Posted March 1, 2016 Author #76 Posted March 1, 2016 Hi Chap, Finish sanding the Hull, add the last plank to the Whales, Paint the Bulwarks/Deck Steps/Bulwark finishing Strips, Loading/light/Air Ports/Hatches, Paint like the replica, French Blue, White and Black for the Whales, Channels, Etc. Pretty much in that order I think. Cheers....HOF. markjay, dashi and Cabbie 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted March 29, 2016 #77 Posted March 29, 2016 Howdy Hof checking in to see how things are going I noticed that you are chasing a deck pdf, I have hunted around and haven't found any thing in the past. I did mine by looking at the pics of the replica and marking it out the best I could. I think it came up fairly close but its too hard to do properly without actually standing on the deck. Anyway I'm the ship master and builder and I like it as it is. I noticed that you have that decking topic, in the card model section, it might be a bit hard to attract attention there, but you have had a few replies. One thing I did find today is find this pdf I don't know if it has been put up at MSW before. It will be very handy when it comes to rigging, and there is a few other bits of info. http://juwarki.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/VC-Man-final.pdf Are you thinking of re-doing your deck? A lot of work to do that, but if it is really bugging you then I found the best idea is to just get on with and enjoy doing it. It's all good practice, and we just have to put it down to experience ( we never seem to be too old to leave that one behind) I have had to heed those words myself a few times. Now off to to do a bit on mine. Cheers Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
markjay Posted March 29, 2016 #78 Posted March 29, 2016 Hi, just stopped by to say hello and she is looking really good. I ran into some of the same issues on my CS, wood was giving me problems. This was one time I'm gladit is painted and coppered. I'll be posting some images showing where I am in the build in the next couple of days.Keep up the good work. Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted April 16, 2016 Author #79 Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Hi All, Just a small update in case you'd all thought I've rolled over and died. (Only the good die young, or so they say.) O.k. the Hull is looking really good but I'm not happy with the Deck, at all. Sanded away, trying to make things perfect but created far more problems, cut through the deck in a few places, and, where I didn't, the Decking is so thin that it's translucent, the Ply underneath shows, not good at all.+ Thanks for your input Chris, yup, got some assistance with "Paper" Decking, (Thanks RichardG, it was worth a crack!!), played around with this but, no go really. Am aware that there is going to be a bit of work re-doing the Deck at this stage but am up for it!! Spoke to Boyd, (Thomaslambo), who is sending me some Decking that he didn't use on his Bounty, Thanks Boyd!! (Just calling out your assistance!!) Also bought a Proxxon Pen Sander/Power supply which should make removal of the old Decking a little easier. I'll post some photos later. Cheers....HOF. Edited April 16, 2016 by hof00 Captain Slog and thomaslambo 2 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted April 16, 2016 #80 Posted April 16, 2016 Howdy Hof All is good, we new you that you would have been hard at it !!!!!! Yeah, sandpaper is pretty dangerous stuff in my hands, it doesn't seem to take too much to go through a plank. Would you need to take all the old deck off? Just sand it back to a good surface, and plank over the top. There are some deck photos in here. http://www.modelships.de/Museums_and_replicas/Endeavour/Photos%20HMB%20Endeavor.htm And in these Flickr albums you can get a lot of partial shots. https://www.flickr.com/photos/endeavourvoyages/10583868184/ Click on the Back to photostream link top left, and you can access the albums. Now back to my stern work which seems to be never ending. Cheers Chris Captain Slog and robin b 2 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
hof00 Posted April 17, 2016 Author #81 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) O.k, some pictures of the current state of affairs, have not yet attacked the Deck. Edited April 17, 2016 by hof00 Captain Slog, Cabbie and cristikc 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
hof00 Posted April 17, 2016 Author #82 Posted April 17, 2016 And, a couple of pictures of the Tool I will be using to "Attack" the Deck. Thanks for the Links Chris, appreciated. Captain Slog, Cabbie, thomaslambo and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted May 13, 2016 #83 Posted May 13, 2016 Howdy Hof Yes, you are right this hobby knows how to chew up time. But it is all good fun. How is the deck makeover going? Cheers Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
hof00 Posted May 13, 2016 Author #84 Posted May 13, 2016 Hi Chap, Unfortunately, work is in the way of any time I have last and this weekend. (Gives me more time to "Ruminate." ) Looking to get stuck in next weekend. Cheers....HOF. Cabbie 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
DaveRow Posted May 23, 2016 #85 Posted May 23, 2016 Hof, Hope the deck is behaving itself if you are attacking it. I cannot see the extent of the thinned areas to offer helpful advice to remedy. Dave R Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
hof00 Posted May 23, 2016 Author #86 Posted May 23, 2016 Thanks Dave, I have some ideas in mind of how I am going to approach this. Hopefully, the coming Weekend will see some progress. (Rework?) Anyway, if I'm not happy with the way it is at present, it's best to have a go at rectifying, I wouldn't be happy if I didn't!! Cheers....HOF. Cabbie and dashi 2 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
hof00 Posted August 6, 2016 Author #87 Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) O.k. a few pictures, Deck Replacement.... Doesn't look too Crash Hot at the mo and rather difficult to get Decking to behave. (I'll get there.) Edited August 6, 2016 by hof00 dashi, thomaslambo, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Cabbie Posted August 6, 2016 #88 Posted August 6, 2016 Howdy Hof, looking good, that is a big effort, stripping the first deck back and putting another on on. It looks like it will be worth the effort. What sort of glue are you using? When i did mine i used a fast setting Sellys white pva, i would put it on, then clean off the excess glue, and keep an eye on it while it was setting to make sure it stayed down. If it needed pushing down, the glue would grab if it wasn't dry. While I was doing that i would get the next one ready. The glue usually set in about 5 mins. Hooroo Chris Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence
hof00 Posted August 6, 2016 Author #89 Posted August 6, 2016 Hi Chap, Aliphatic Resin, (Selleys), Sandable PVA. The Hull is not too bad, I can live with that as the majority will be painted. Not happy with the Deck but time will tell, so far, the replacement is not too bad but plenty more to go. (Had to make a start!!) Fore and Quarter Deck first, Poop maybe. I'll see if there are major differences. I guess I'll be happier with the build once the Decks are complete, able to move on. Cheers....HOF. Cabbie 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
DaveRow Posted August 7, 2016 #90 Posted August 7, 2016 Howdy Hof. Chin up for the deck to turn out good for you. Better to redo now than lament down the track that it should of been replaced earlier. Look forward to the deck fit-out ahead. Dave R Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
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