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That is almost unbelievable in that it came that way in a kit. In my experience there is usually at least some sanding, trimming or filling that has to happen to get a good fit. Says a lot for the quality of DeAgostini and as someone who has not had an opportunity to try their products, this is very encouraging. I hope the rest proves be of the same standard.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

Member : Nautical Research Guild

 

 

Posted (edited)

Peter, thanks for the pic. A black stain (maybe ebony?) would do the job I see. Will have to scrape the red paint off from the tight little corners since the carriage is quite small...  :rolleyes:   

 

We'll hope that the quality of the kit will continue. 

Edited by puckotred

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

Another tiny update:

 

Some color on the decorations

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It's place:

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Bronze cannon and ebony stain on the carriage

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And while I'm waiting for the next parts to come I have some time with one of the other projects

 

Corel's Amphion

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Edited by puckotred

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted (edited)

Very nicely done!
You might want to know that Corel is not known for their accuracy.
Their Amphion kit is not actually of the Amphion, but rather another of F.H Chapman's designs, no 4 on plate XLIV in Chapman's "Architectura Navalis Mercatoria":
http://www.sjohistoriska.se/ImageVaultFiles/id_3074/cf_1787/44.JPG
I have difficulty comprehending the reasoning behind doing this, especially since the real Amphion plans exist, the stern still exist and there are even photos of her.
See "Daniel G Harris: Fredrik Henrik af Chapman: The First Naval Architect and his Work"
Pg 90-91 for the Amphion plans.
Model:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Trtanj-Amphion.PNG

It is a nice model of a Chapman pleasure Yacht though.
It would be nice if more of the Chapman designs were issued as kits.

Very nice work!
Cheers,
Peter

Edited by Peter Jenssen
Posted (edited)

Wacko: I also have a half built Pegasus and the Pinco Genovese (hull built), and a "Section Deck Between Gun Bays"

going, so busy I am indeed...

 

Peter: yes I know. I got the Amphion and Pegasus more or less half built at the cost of picking them up. Since I knew a little of the history of the real Amphion I was quite surprised at what the kit actually was. But as you said, still a nice model of a yacht.

Edited by puckotred

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted

Hello Jan,

 

36 shipments.

2 first shipments with 2 issues each, the rest 4 issues in every shipment.

 

That would be 132 issues all together.

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted

I'm going crazy waiting like this. Hopefully there will be a longer building period when I get 4 issues a month...

 

In the meanwhile I have had some fun with Chuck's blocks:

 

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post-6862-0-30139700-1467819595_thumb.jpg

 

Also tied ratlines on Amphion. Not as awful task as I remembered actually 

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted (edited)

Thanks Bob  ;)

Edited by puckotred

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted

Thanks Paul

 

Wacko: Yes, one can really tell the difference...

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted

Today I visited the Vasa museum and I got really tempted to buy DeAgs model of it and build. Fortunately I can control myself and not buy it now. But rest assured, I will ;)

 

First I will finish the Hanse Kogge and Bireme which is "next in line". After that I will se what I choose. But I believe I need another ship under my belt before I try out Vasa.

 

And, maybe it will be easier to buy more installments faster so to speak.

Posted

I don't think that this kit is that hard actually. Having checked out the official build logs from DeAgostini of Victory and SoS etc the kits and the instructions seems well suited for builders with one or two models behind them. 

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted

I have been looking into this one myself for later down the road and from what I can see the instructions and the way the kit is designed I would not call it a beginner kit but an intermediate one. I think what would make it harder for someone with less experience would be if you are wanting to take it beyond what the kit provides in terms of details. Otherwise the usual difficulties would of course apply with planking, and rigging and making sure everything is squared up and measured out right.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing how this kit builds out to get a better idea of what to expect.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

Member : Nautical Research Guild

 

 

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

At last the second shipment arrived!! 6 weeks of waiting has come to end. (For this time.) One of those weeks the shipment spent circulating around the neighborhood as it was too large to fit in our letterbox, and some moron at the post office could not copy my name and address from the parcel to a piece of paper without misspelling the lot. 

 

Anyway, 2 issues with this shipment, next month there will be 4 issues so a little more to do then.

 

This is what I got today:

 

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Parts for the deck:

 

post-6862-0-95143400-1470144652.jpg

 

One frame:

 

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false keel part 2 and anchor stock:

 

post-6862-0-32651300-1470144655.jpg

 

One anchor:

 

post-6862-0-87101600-1470144656.jpg

 

Stern decoration:

 

post-6862-0-20835600-1470144664.jpg

 

post-6862-0-61694800-1470144665_thumb.jpg

 

A booklet:

 

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Looks like most of it it is from this book:

 

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I will start building frames and keel this evening so until then...

Edited by puckotred

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted

Bob:

The wood is great quality, as is the laser cut. I guess the pre marking helps a beginner a lot. You'll have to be illiterate and blind to glue the parts in the wrong place. (I hope this comment won't jump up and bite me later on...)

 

Jan:

I've been thinking of one of these: post-6862-0-57735600-1470215750.jpg

 

 

Attached the frame and supports yesterday. Der FRAU has some strange idea that I should go to bed so I didn't post them last night...

 

Frame #7 (the 4th frame), foremast support and bottom "deck":

 

post-6862-0-47673100-1470215689_thumb.jpg

 

 

Cannon deck/frame supports glued on:

 

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She'll be one big tub, 4th frame 172 mm wide!

 

 

Next is the anchor. Instructions say to paint it "metallic grey", gives the color code RAL 5011, which is labelled "Steel blue".

I'll probably go with Admirality's matt metal black.

We'll see.

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted (edited)
The anchor looks also great.

I would not start painting it before you have the two anchors in your possession.

Then they are painted in the same way.

 

I painted my anchors in a gun metal base color.

(See my build log of Wasa)

 

Compared with the Billings Wasa this woodwork looks very neat and easy to build,

I think

 

Ps 

You really do need a bigger letterbox  ;) 

 

Greetings 

Patrick

Edited by Backer
Posted

Cobr@ and Patric: I will probably go with "matt metal black from Admirality. if nothing because I like that particulary paint. It really looks like the old painted cannons and anchors you see in museums etc.

 

Enemeink: I have visited that homepage before but forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me and giving me the link.

 

Tiny update:

 

The decoration:

 

post-6862-0-79265800-1470405988_thumb.jpg

 

And where it will go eventually:

 

post-6862-0-16648000-1470405877_thumb.jpg

 

The blue/white/red shield was a pain to paint, the whole thing only 20 mm high. Hopefully the fuzzy lines will not show as much when the whole stern is completed.

 

Now only the anchor left, then another 5-6 weeks of waiting. But next time theres 4 issues coming, maybe they will last a week at least...  :)

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

Posted

Nice job on the shield. That will look great on the ship.

 

I agree that the wait times would definitely help in keeping the desire up to work on her. Having wait all those weeks in between steps would have me ready to get going every time that package showed up on my porch. On a plus side though, it would be great for allowing two builds to happen at the same time. Being able to work on a different one while waiting would help with the downtime and keep burnout from happening on either one.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

Member : Nautical Research Guild

 

 

Posted

I have attached the plans from Billing Boats on my build log.

If you can use them, feel free to download them.

 

Patrick

Posted

A small update on the anchor.

Anchor is drawn by Fred Hocker from the Vasa museum so that will be accurate. But the anchor stock was not. 

Also impossible to hide the plywood layering so I made new.

 

The plywood stock:

 

post-6862-0-32870800-1471000081_thumb.jpg

 

Left plywood, right new from old scrapwood:

 

post-6862-0-18062100-1471000083_thumb.jpg

 

Plywood:

 

post-6862-0-80768000-1471000084.jpg

 

And the new again:

 

post-6862-0-23135200-1471000086.jpg

 

Stained with oakstain:

 

post-6862-0-83241800-1471000087_thumb.jpg

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I have still not decided if I will do tree-nailing on the stock.

 

 

About three weeks to next shipment now...  :rolleyes:

Mr. Pucko

 

Building:

Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

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