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Black thread-What do you use as glue for it that will not "silver"? Other than CA.


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Ahoy Mates

 

Just wanted to know what types of glues you use when rigging in black rope other than CA that will not "silver" when dried?

 

I have tried diluted PVA glues with a range of results. From being unseen when dry to being white-"silvered" air under the glue when it's dry.

 

I use Titebond for my Tan Syren rope with no problems,but the black is different for some reason unknown to me. Where the tan will take to the Titebond with little effort,the black doesn't want to hold onto the glue and dry the same as the tan.

 

What do you use,and how do you use it? And what should I be doing different for the black rope that is not the same as for the tan and light rope?

 

Thanks

Keith

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Book binders PVA is a choice.  It dries clear and if slightly diluted should mostly soak in and not produce a film layer.

Titebond works well for wood, but it has a pH that is about as acidic as vinegar  ~ 3.0.  Another option would be to use

black ink to dilute -

You could get a larger supply of the tan and dye it with a walnut dye and have something that is closer in color to

rope treated with pre-petrol age tar.

Is your rope cotton or linen?  If it is a synthetic polymer, I have no suggestions.  The only synthetic or polymer that I

am willing to use at all is the PVA itself. 

NRG member 50 years

 

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HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

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Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
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Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

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not the answer you are looking for, but i use c/a and then use a diluted mat black paint over any any marks, 

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Hi Keith,

               I use Aleene's Tacky Glue for all my model applications. Dries clear and has real good initial grab, Available at Walmart. worth a try..... ;)

 

 

 

 

      regards, Keith

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     A Battleship

 

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   The Unicorn - The Lindworm - Malahini -  Shinobi Maru  -  The MaryJane - The Weeligstraal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

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I used two things on my AVS, both seemed to work fine.

 

Dilute (50/50) Weld Bond (white PVA) worked fine, takes a while to dry.  I used this for all of my rope coils.

 

Matte Varnish or Medium (I use Vallejo, and can't really tell the difference between the varnish or medium).  Dries completely invisible on everything I've ever used it on.  I find it great for things like securing a rope to a spar because it dries invisibly on both the rope (whether tan or black) and the wood.  It's also great for repairing lines the come loose from spars (like lifts) as you just put the line back into place and then apply the varnish with a paint brush.  So far (knock on wood) none of the lines secured this way have come loose when transporting the model hundreds of miles in the car.

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