AON Posted October 29 #121 Posted October 29 Sorry, but I've discovered it is the the small things that impress the most. You get 90% of your audience with the magnificent looking sail. The another 9% with the two holes... we were told about them! There is still that 1% out there... those real sailors that see everything. 👀 I'd be impressed to see those holes with the rope grommet sewn around them 😏... a challenge for you! mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
herask Posted October 30 #122 Posted October 30 Quote I'd be impressed to see those holes with the rope grommet sewn around them 😏... a challenge for you! Alan, I'm pretty sure that Greg chuckled while reading this, considering my OCD... 😊 I'll see what can be done about the holes... AON and mtaylor 2 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
herask Posted October 31 #123 Posted October 31 Alan, how's this look? mtaylor 1 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
AON Posted October 31 #124 Posted October 31 Excellent! BZ herask and mtaylor 2 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
herask Posted November 4 #125 Posted November 4 hi all. just wanted to post a small update. getting sizes and proportions of staysails at the moment. next is making textures and then puffing them up with the wind, and only then come digital ropes again... AON, mtaylor, chris watton and 1 other 4 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
herask Posted November 5 #126 Posted November 5 sails and materials are done (-ish)... now I need to shape them and tie them down... mtaylor, dvm27, gjdale and 1 other 4 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
druxey Posted November 6 #127 Posted November 6 Lovely but, as someone else pointed out, the water drainage holes in the spritsail are still needed. CiscoH and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
herask Posted November 6 #128 Posted November 6 they are there, they're just not visible in latest screenshots... 😉 druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
herask Posted November 19 #129 Posted November 19 hi, all! the jibsail is done. it's getting a bit crowded with all the ropes up there... giampieroricci, mtaylor, Seventynet and 2 others 4 1 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
druxey Posted November 20 #130 Posted November 20 Those images make me smile. Well done! CiscoH, mtaylor and herask 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
herask Posted November 20 #131 Posted November 20 Fore Topmast Staysail is done... at this point the ropes are criss-crossing each other in a very unrealistic manner. if you spot such rope, please ignore, because unless I do a full simulation of all ropes and sails at the same time (pretty much undoable at this scale), there's no way around it. Seventynet, gjdale, CiscoH and 3 others 4 2 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
herask Posted November 21 #132 Posted November 21 The Fore Staysail is done. onto the middle staysails... and a couple of ocean renders, because she looks beautiful with sun behind the sails... druxey, gjdale, chris watton and 2 others 2 3 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
druxey Posted November 21 #133 Posted November 21 Love those sunshine renderings, Denis! mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
herask Posted November 22 #134 Posted November 22 thank you, Druxey! they do look better than flat colored ones mtaylor 1 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
herask Posted December 3 #135 Posted December 3 hello guys! main staysail is done... gjdale, Seventynet, CiscoH and 3 others 6 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
druxey Posted December 3 #136 Posted December 3 Lovely! herask 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
herask Posted December 4 #137 Posted December 4 (edited) hm, it seems I've hit a snag. I've put the main topmast staysail in place but there are a lot of lines that get in the way. I can't seem to come up with a satisfying solution to the problem. where could I actually squeeze said sail where it wouldn't interfere with other lines? please, help. Edited December 4 by herask Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
herask Posted December 4 #138 Posted December 4 it's a shame that ropes are getting in the way. the sails are looking really impressive as they are right now. come to think of it, was this sail setup even used back then? what was the most common configuration of sails? maybe I could omit some, instead of going full throttle? Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
3DShipWright Posted December 5 #139 Posted December 5 (edited) Add additional vertices to your pin group, or just bite the bullet and set up the ropes as collision objects - that's what I did. I hate to say it, given that the rest of your model is so impressive, but to my eyes your sails are a bit of a let down. The textures and subsurface effects are good, but they don't behave like real sails. Here's a few tips: Make sure your sails are high poly (remember to use simple SS, not catmil-clark) and add the solidify mod after you run the simulations Run a different cloth simulation for each sail, or at the very least, apply the physics simulation at a different point on the timeline for each sail Animate the force field - real wind is not constant, changes both direction and speed. For extra realism, I added a low value to the verts in front of the bunt lines so that the sail billowed out around the lines somewhat. Note that this will require you model the ropes on each side independently (no more mirror mod, sadly, but the result is worth the extra effort. Finally, consider modelling the course sails as furled, Not only will this add to the realism, It also allows more of the actual ship to be seen in renders Edited December 5 by 3DShipWright CDR_Ret 1 Quote
herask Posted December 5 #140 Posted December 5 (edited) thank you for the tips! I did try full sim on sails but it all got weird. sails would clip through ropes, or even stick to them like glued for no apparent reason... I'm aware that the sails are somewhat simplified affair but in all honesty that's the intention. as much as I would like to engage full cloth sim on everything I've decided to skip that step for the sake of my sanity . will try and make furled courses, though. the initial idea was to make three states for each sail: fully set, half furled and furled, so I could cover all sail deployment(?) scenarios. but, again, my sanity... what actually halted my progress here is that I don't know where to squeeze the staysail between all these lines. full sim or not, I can't see how the sail actually fits there... EDIT: by the way, when I was looking at your post on my phone I had to squint to really notice that your renders aren't photos. that blender gizmo in the upper right corner gave it away. great work! Edited December 5 by herask CDR_Ret 1 Quote cheers! Denis In Progress: HMS Pandora 3D modeling (temporarily on hold) Finished Builds: Swan Class HMS Pegasus for Admiralty Models 3D Build German Type VIIC U-Boat 3D model My other 3D work: Artstation
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