Hallibag Posted August 24, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 24, 2019 Does anyone know what this object is? The “N” and other markings stamped on it has led me to believe it is naval in origin, but that’s a guess. It’s thick oak, with a brass plate on one side, and is approximately 11 1/2” square. I would be very grateful if someone would identify it, and solve a mystery for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallibag Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Just stumbled upon this: https://www.royal-arsenal-history.com/departments.html So, the RCD stamped on this mystery object stands for the Royal Carriage Department of the Royal Arsenal, Woolwich... Edited August 24, 2019 by Hallibag mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Hoss Posted August 24, 2019 Share #3 Posted August 24, 2019 looks like an ancient cup holder 🙂 mtaylor and paulsutcliffe 2 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 25, 2019 Share #4 Posted August 25, 2019 I would assume (and we know about what happens when we "assume") that the 1929 is a date. If the date is right, not a shot garland like we think for ball shot. Are the "holes" tapered? Can't tell from the photos. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted August 25, 2019 Share #5 Posted August 25, 2019 I agree with your summation Hallibag as to it being from the Arsenal - Carriage Department. The Rod stamped on it may indicate a proofing device for some of the rods used in the the carriage (1926)? The attached may have something as there are 3 parts - Army, Coastal Defense and Naval gun Carriages discussed. I have only perused the Naval section (Part 3) at the moment and do not recall seeing it, but.... cheers Pat Treatise_on_military_carriages_ W Kemmis 1974.pdf mtaylor 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jud Posted August 25, 2019 Share #6 Posted August 25, 2019 1926, breach loader days. Device to hold ready service cartridges, dropped in and stopped by the cartridge rim. Hole in the center used as a holder so the holding plate could be removed and replaced by a different caliber if the Ammo Cart was used for a different sized gun. Don't know, pure speculation. Maybe some evidence of compression on the bottom of the small hole, it may have been set on top of a cylinder and secured, Possible compression showing on the brass plate around the large holes. Hope someone with better research skills can solve the mystery. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted August 25, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 25, 2019 From what I have been able to find, looking in the Royal Navel Handbook of Field Training 1926, the MK II Carriage Land Service was used for the MK I Howitzer. However, that is a 6 inch diameter shell so they would not be fitting into those holes Regards mtaylor 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallibag Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 8:04 PM, mtaylor said: IAre the "holes" tapered? Can't tell from the photos. No, the holes are straight-sided. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallibag Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 9:22 PM, BANYAN said: The attached may have something as there are 3 parts - Army, Coastal Defense and Naval gun Carriages discussed. I have only perused the Naval section (Part 3) at the moment and do not recall seeing it, but.... cheers Pat Treatise_on_military_carriages_ W Kemmis 1974.pdf 15.65 MB · 1 download Thank you for this. I will give the Treatise a careful examination! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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