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Hello Everyone.

 

I recently decided that for my next model I wanted to build a Dutch Fluyt, specifically Abel Tasman's ship the Zeehaen. During my research into this topic I have come across two books and sets of plans that look quite promising. These are:

 

The Ships of Abel Tasman

Author(s): Ab Hoving & Cor Emke, introduction by Peter Sigmond
Year: 2000
Publisher: Verloren
ISBN: 9065500871
Pages: 144 pages

Plans: 40 sheets of plans and CD-ROM for the Zeehaen and Heemskerck

 

17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships

Aurthor(s): Ab Hoving, Plans by Cor Emke 

Year: 2014

Publisher: SeaWatch Books

ISBN: 9780990404118

Pages: 152

Plans: 24 sheets of plans for 10 different ship types. 

 

I have already seen Marc's (flying_dutchman2) review of these two books and plans on Model Ship World, which can be found in the links below:

 

I was wondering however if anyone could enlighten me as to any differences between these two books and their coverage of the Zeehaen? I would prefer to purchase 17th Century Dutch Merchants Ships as I certainly wouldn't mind the additional ships, however if it's coverage is significantly less detailed than the Ships of Abel Tasman then obviously I'd prefer the latter.    

 

Thanks

Posted

Jarrod,

Do yourself a favor,  saving yourself pointless stress and buy a copy of both books.  If 17th C. Dutch is a focus, then you will want both anyway.

You are lucky if you can still buy a copy of The Ships of Abel Tasman.  The time window is not as long as you imagine it to be.

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Maybe I can shed some light on this.

The book 'The ships of Abel Tasman' contains two draughts, one of the yacht Heemskerck and the other of the fluit Zeehaen. The book deals with the process of designing these two reconstructions and tells the story of Abel Tasman's travels in 1642. Published by Verloren. https://verloren.nl/boeken/2086/253/168/maritiem-en-waterstaat/the-ships-of-abel-tasman

The book '17th century Dutch Merchant ships' contains the draughts of many characteristic vessels of the Dutch merchant fleet, amongst which several fluits. One of them is the Zeehaen. Published by SeaWatchBooks: https://www.seawatchbooks.com/ItemDisplay.php?sku=114003

I hope this helps.

Good luck,

Ab

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Thanks for this Ab, I greatly appreciate your insights here. 

I ended up picking up a copy of "The Ships of Abel" from Verloren and it definitely offers a great overview of Tasman's ships. 

Hopefully now I can look into starting a build of one of these. 

Again thanks for the help!

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