Tsarist Walrus Posted February 16, 2020 Share #1 Posted February 16, 2020 Hello Everyone. I recently decided that for my next model I wanted to build a Dutch Fluyt, specifically Abel Tasman's ship the Zeehaen. During my research into this topic I have come across two books and sets of plans that look quite promising. These are: The Ships of Abel Tasman Author(s): Ab Hoving & Cor Emke, introduction by Peter Sigmond Year: 2000 Publisher: Verloren ISBN: 9065500871 Pages: 144 pages Plans: 40 sheets of plans and CD-ROM for the Zeehaen and Heemskerck 17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships Aurthor(s): Ab Hoving, Plans by Cor Emke Year: 2014 Publisher: SeaWatch Books ISBN: 9780990404118 Pages: 152 Plans: 24 sheets of plans for 10 different ship types. I have already seen Marc's (flying_dutchman2) review of these two books and plans on Model Ship World, which can be found in the links below: 17th Century Merchant Ships The Ships of Abel Tasman I was wondering however if anyone could enlighten me as to any differences between these two books and their coverage of the Zeehaen? I would prefer to purchase 17th Century Dutch Merchants Ships as I certainly wouldn't mind the additional ships, however if it's coverage is significantly less detailed than the Ships of Abel Tasman then obviously I'd prefer the latter. Thanks Archi, mtaylor and rkwz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhearl Posted February 17, 2020 Share #2 Posted February 17, 2020 Ab Hoving is a member of the forum, so you might want to send him a PM. https://modelshipworld.com/profile/31631-ab-hoving/ Cheers - John Tsarist Walrus, Archi, rkwz and 2 others 5 Quote http://modelboatyard.com Recently Completed: Chesapeake Bay Buyboat - F.D. Crockett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted February 17, 2020 Share #3 Posted February 17, 2020 Jarrod, Do yourself a favor, saving yourself pointless stress and buy a copy of both books. If 17th C. Dutch is a focus, then you will want both anyway. You are lucky if you can still buy a copy of The Ships of Abel Tasman. The time window is not as long as you imagine it to be. Tsarist Walrus, mtaylor, flying_dutchman2 and 1 other 4 Quote NRG member 45 years Current: HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 ship - timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsarist Walrus Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted February 18, 2020 Thanks John, I will be sure to keep that in mind for any of my further queries I had not considered that the book might soon be difficult acquire, so thanks for pointing that out to me Jaager. I think I'll definitely prioritise getting a copy mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tsarist Walrus Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted July 8, 2020 Hi Olha, Thank you very much for this. I always find it hard to examine and compare products when looking online, so an actual look at what is contained in the book is greatly appreciated. mtaylor and Moab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ab Hoving Posted July 8, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 8, 2020 Maybe I can shed some light on this. The book 'The ships of Abel Tasman' contains two draughts, one of the yacht Heemskerck and the other of the fluit Zeehaen. The book deals with the process of designing these two reconstructions and tells the story of Abel Tasman's travels in 1642. Published by Verloren. https://verloren.nl/boeken/2086/253/168/maritiem-en-waterstaat/the-ships-of-abel-tasman The book '17th century Dutch Merchant ships' contains the draughts of many characteristic vessels of the Dutch merchant fleet, amongst which several fluits. One of them is the Zeehaen. Published by SeaWatchBooks: https://www.seawatchbooks.com/ItemDisplay.php?sku=114003 I hope this helps. Good luck, Ab GrandpaPhil, Landlubber Mike, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsarist Walrus Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted July 23, 2020 Thanks for this Ab, I greatly appreciate your insights here. I ended up picking up a copy of "The Ships of Abel" from Verloren and it definitely offers a great overview of Tasman's ships. Hopefully now I can look into starting a build of one of these. Again thanks for the help! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ab Hoving Posted July 23, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 23, 2020 You are welcome and good luck! Ab mtaylor and Tsarist Walrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ab Hoving Posted December 22, 2020 Share #11 Posted December 22, 2020 Hello Olha, Thank you for the presentation of my Tasman book. I hope many readers will like it. Are you by any chance related to Kroum Batchvarov? Cheers, Ab mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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