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Hi

 

I'm working on a commission project in 1/4" scale and am looking for a good treatment/method of the internal lining of the scuppers. I've got (I think) the exterior discharge under control but am looking for the inboard / intake (waterway) side.

 

I recently saw a thread where the builder did a nice job of it and I can't remember the thread. It wasn't focused on the scuppers, it was just one of the details illustrated.

 

Any help and/or direction would be appreciated.

 

Moderators, if this should be in on deck thread please move

 

Thanks!

 

Sam

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Sam,

What ship/era are you building?   David Antscherl gives a very detailed explanation and drawings in volume II of The Fully Framed Model for the Swan Class Sloops of 1767-1780 on pages 73 and 74 but this may not apply to your ship if it is a totally different era, nationality, etc.

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If you are talking about those lead pipes that lead from the inside of the waterways outboard, you may consider using hollow soldering tin. Dissolved the resin in aceton and shabe it to your needs.

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Posted (edited)

I am thinking that paper may one of the few flexible materials that will be close to scale.  Given how we see scale effect, a bit under scale may look better.  At the extreme end is Silkspan and the tissue used for holding expensive presents.  A jig the size of the scupper hole in a material that PVA will not bond with can be used to shape the PVA soaked paper.  After it dries in shape, it can then be primed and then coated with lead colored paint.  Saves having to mask each scupper.

Edited by Jaager

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Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

Posted

My experience was with the topsail schooner Eagle and the scuppers were fairly large rectangular openings.  I was not  seeing a round or oval hole in my mind. 

NRG member 50 years

 

Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

Posted

To everyone who responded - THANKS!

 

I've been experimenting with a few different solutions and I'm leaning towards the less is more philosophy. 

 

The scupper lining is a great detail if subtle enough - too much and it looks like a gaping hole in the waterway. 

 

I'm either going to go with Druxey's acrylic paint solution (thanks David) or just a thin paper for for the lip. The issue other than size is the consistency of the shape.

 

Thank's again to everyone

 

Stay well

 

Sam

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