Santa Maria by jastrząb - FINISHED - Mantua - Scale 1:50

[jastrząb]

More shrouds.... and dead-eyes. Any comments and suggestions? - be my guests

 

 

[NAZGÛL]

Nice work! Im getting closer to start with that part of the build. Im a little nervous tbh... So far I feel that I can relate the steps with scratching or kit bashing styrene models, but rigging will be all new.

 

 

/Matti

Edited August 29, 2013 by NAZGÛL

[jastrząb]

Thanks Matti for your kind words! Rigging is OK . But now I'm thinking more about HMS Pandora (take a look at her please) and some unsolved questions.

Regards, 

Paweł

[marktime]

Changing the colour of the dead-eyes rigging is a great improvement.

[jastrząb]

Thanks Marktime for your opinion. I'm glad you like it.  Now they look much "older". The same with ratlines. The colour changes the whole outlook:) 

Just like soaking the sails in the coffee or tea

 

Cheers,

Paweł

[jastrząb]

Getting ready for the ratlines... I think, I didn't exaggerated with the spaces between them. In normal scale it would be every 0.5m

[NAZGÛL]

Looking good!

 

 

/Matti

[jastrząb]

Coming back again. Sorry for not writing but the work duties were so tough!

 

I'm asking you to help me solve out a riddle. I have been searching for the sketches in my books (zu Mondfeld and Lennarth Pettersen) but I still have no clue what to do with it.

 

Look at the ropes 62. They are doubled ??????  why?. Where or even HOW to attach them to the model (belaying pin). Any guesses?

 

PLEASE help me. 

[marktime]

62 are the spritsail sheets, ropes that allow the the spritsail to be trimmed, i.e. to keep the sail filled with wind.. One end will be fixed to a cleat mounted on the inboard face of the foc's'cle bulwark and the other belayed on the belaying pin No. 62. These sheets are normally left slack on the model as there is no counter force to keep them taut.

 

 

Edit: My interpretation of the Santa Maria based on the Martinez-Hidalgo replica has only a single sheet for each foot of the spritsail so in that case, you have a single rope to belay on pin 62.

Edited November 24, 2013 by marktime

[jastrząb]

Thanks for your comment. It's helpful . There will be more questions I think according to the poor version of the manual attached to the model

[jastrząb]

Sewing sails... I had to replace this silky cloth (attached by mantua- YUK!) by more natural-looking material. 

[jastrząb]

creating sails...

[jastrząb]

The visible progress of the sail (now it has been attached)

[jastrząb]

Sewing a sail. The ones attached to the model were so awful...

[Moonbug]

Nice work with the sails!  I may be stealing a bit of this when I get to the rigging.  :-)

 

- Bug

[jastrząb]

Bug, be my guest If you find it useful, I'm really glad

[jastrząb]

Dealing with ropes on the sail... This is my technique of dealing with knots on the ropes. If you find it useful and accurate - have fun

This way the ropes are not loose. The knots are fairly tight both ways and they keep the rope in position

[NAZGÛL]

Looking great, thanks for all in progress pics showing how you do it!

 

/Matti

[jastrząb]

No problem Matti. I get a lot of hints from this forum so I share with my ideas as well.

[Moonbug]

Nice work. Was the red design already on the sail in your kit, or did you add that?

 

- Bug

[jastrząb]

Hi Bug,

 

The cross was the only good thing that was taken from the originail sail from the kit. I cut it out and attached to my own sail.

[Moonbug]

Cool, thanks. I'm still contemplating exactly how I'll illustrate my mainsail.

 

- Bug

[jastrząb]

I found different types of crosses. But what did it look like we don't know...

[Moonbug]

Yes of course - and regarding the entire ship. I didn't realize how little actual information there was, and how much conjecture there was before I started this build. I assumed such a famous vessel would be easy to reference. But alas, no. That has turned the project into a fun history lesson,  a very interesting challenge in trying to balance historical accuracy with aesthetics, and of course a fun build.  There's a lot of "yeah, that could have been right" as opposed to the "that's the way it was" builds like the HMS vessels of later centuries.

 

- Bug

[jastrząb]

In fact, her outlok stayed unknown. A similar ship was curved on a gate of a church or something like this. Therefore you're correct that she's a bit s-f vessel. No mater which cross you have on your sails. Everything is possible. 

But I have to admit that Mantua's version and plans are really poor...

[Craigie65]

Those sails are looking good! How many hours of sewing by hand has it taken you so far? I presume you are not going to furl them and hide all the good work?

Edited January 9, 2014 by Craigie65

[jastrząb]

Hi Craig,

 

I divided it into steps. The first step was to sew the "vertical lines" - it took me about 6 hours. Then I started sewing it around - about 3 hours. Next, I added a thick rope around and attach it to the sail - 3 hours. The last step was to add the small ropes in two parallel lines across the sail - about 1.5 hrs. 

 

You're right Craig, I'm not going to furl it. I read an article about furling and the easiest way is to shape the sail by cutting off the excess of the material and attach it to the yard. I have never done this before and I'm not going to take my chance with Santa Maria

It's nice to read that you like it  

 

Any more questions - go ahead

[Moonbug]

The church model is the mataro found here: http://www.maritiemmuseum.nl/digitent/mataro/online/eng_mataronline.pdf which proved to be pretty helpful for me when constructing the head beam and prow of the ship. 

 

The Artesenia Latina plans and inclusions are pretty weak also. I completely abandoned the plans early and have since relied very heavily on Xavier Pastor's book "The ships of Christopher Columbus" as well as some other research. 

 

I just ordered the book "Vanguard of Empire - Ships of Exploration in the Age of Columbus"  Roger C. Smith to be delivered to my library, as pointed out to me by marktime.

 

- Bug

[jastrząb]

Thanks Bug for sharing the website!

 

I don't know why the people responsible for the plans are so inaccurate...

 

Comparing to the Construct: The plans are good, but in my HMS Pandora (1779) there is a modern Union Jack... LOL

[jastrząb]

Dealing with yard... I have created some wooden parts to be coiled around the mast. My wife gave me some very small bids to place them between these wooden elements. Sorry for the quality of the pics but it was late at night and my sight was not so good then