_SalD_ Posted May 13, 2023 Share #1 Posted May 13, 2023 I am trying to find a better picture of the eagle emblem shown below, preferably in color. I've been searching the web but to no avail so far. Size doesn't matter (or so they say) because I can always shrink or enlarge it. I would appreciate it if anyone could point me in the right direction. Thanks. Keith Black 1 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted May 13, 2023 Share #2 Posted May 13, 2023 https://www.google.com/search?q=presidential+eagle&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjRquHD9_L-AhVclGoFHeXgAxAQ0pQJegQICxAB&biw=1920&bih=1097&dpr=1 Keith Black and _SalD_ 1 1 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted May 13, 2023 Share #3 Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Sal, I had a difficult time finding an eagle with its head turned to the right and wings straight or slightly bent down. it seems almost all images have the eagle's head turned to the left with wings lifted. I searched for months and finally found a small gold eagle for a charm bracelet on eBay (inexpensive) that was the right scale. A year later I saw where a supplier carried small carved eagles that would have been perfect but for the life of me I can't remember the supplier. This might be a case where 3D printing would be the best bet unless you plan on carving one yourself. Edited May 13, 2023 by Keith Black _SalD_ and mtaylor 1 1 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SalD_ Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share #4 Posted May 14, 2023 Gregory thanks for the link to the emblems but as Keith mentioned most of the eagles are shown with the wings in the up position. Keith if you happen to recall the supplier let me know. I always forget about 3D printing, I'll have to look into that. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted May 14, 2023 Share #5 Posted May 14, 2023 Any of these help? I can PM these to you in DXF if you have a CAD program. Allan Eagles.PDF mtaylor, Keith Black and _SalD_ 2 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted May 14, 2023 Share #6 Posted May 14, 2023 Does it need to be a Presidential Eagle? Can you use a different representation like a Federal Eagle? Regards, Henry mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted May 14, 2023 Share #7 Posted May 14, 2023 mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted May 14, 2023 Share #8 Posted May 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, popeye2sea said: Does it need to be a Presidential Eagle? Henry, the 'presidential eagle' was my example of a Google search. I think Sal is needing the eagle from the Great Seal, but with the wings oriented downward. I just did a search for 'federal eagle' and did come up with this: I'm just not seeing the Great Seal with the shield on the chest and the banner in the beak with the wings oriented downward. Mabey a graphics wiz could combine two or more images to get Sal what he is looking for. Keith Black, _SalD_ and mtaylor 3 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted May 14, 2023 Share #9 Posted May 14, 2023 Regarding the head facing to the eagles right, found this bit of information as to why The Presidential seal is an example of heraldry, the ancient art of symbols of nobility. Everything on a Herald has a meaning, even the colors. In heraldry, “right” (as a direction) is more noble, or honorable, than “left,” which is less noble, dishonorable, or inferior. The Latin word for Left is “sinister,” which in English means devious or untrustworthy. Allan Gregory, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted May 14, 2023 Share #10 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) I wonder about the source of Sal's image in the OP. Chances are it is a mirror image. I noticed the orientation of the arrows and the olive branch are reversed from what is commonly seen. That said, I think the orientation of the wings is Sal's primary concern. Edited May 14, 2023 by Gregory _SalD_, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted May 14, 2023 Share #11 Posted May 14, 2023 Sal, I finally remembered. https://www.bluejacketinc.com/shop/fittings/on-deck/eagle/stern/f0600-15-16-wide/ mtaylor, _SalD_ and Gregory 3 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SalD_ Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted May 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Gregory said: I wonder about the source of Sal's image in the OP. Gregory, my current build is the USCG Harriet Lane. The image is on the paddle wheel cover from the drawing below. 7 hours ago, allanyed said: Any of these help? I can PM these to you in DXF if you have a CAD program. Allan, The bottom image may work if I can't find something closer to what I need. I do have AutoCad (2004) so I could use the dxf file. 4 hours ago, Keith Black said: Sal, I finally remembered. Thanks Keith, I need to check if the size will work for me. Thank you all for helping. mtaylor, Gregory and Keith Black 3 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted May 15, 2023 Share #13 Posted May 15, 2023 14 hours ago, _SalD_ said: Allan, The bottom image may work if I can't find something closer to what I need. I do have AutoCad (2004) so I could use the dxf file. Just PM'd you the entire page in DXF so you can edit as you wish. If the X and Y axes are not exactly right for you, you can compress and/or stretch as you wish or trace over the image and then compress and/or stretch the new drawing to what ever works for you. Allan Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SalD_ Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share #14 Posted May 23, 2023 Just a little update on the eagle search. Using the link from Keith of the USS Constitution by ERS Rich - Model Shipways I found a file for a 3D printed eagle. My daughters fiancé has a 3d printer and was able to print out two eagles for me. 3D file eagle picture. Printed eagles. At the scale I needed there isn't a lot of detail but I think they'll work fine. Just need to clean them up a bit. Eagle in temporary position. Needs to be painted and then glued in place. Gregory, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted May 23, 2023 Share #15 Posted May 23, 2023 Looks good, Sal. Glad it worked out. _SalD_, Knocklouder and mtaylor 2 1 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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