Jsk Posted September 5, 2023 #1 Posted September 5, 2023 So... apparently I created an account on this forum in 2015. Who knew? I didn't. A few weeks ago I stumbled upon the forum and have had a great time reading and looking at wonderful builds. What a great place. Thank you to everyone for making this such a wonderful resource! Downright inspiring. I've had a passion for ships and boats for many years but never really had the space to do much modeling. Well, other than small scale stuff (mostly for miniatures gaming). While the temptation to start a wood model comes and goes, over the years I've dabbled in plastic and card models. Most of my ship building work has been virtual, though. Lately, I've been trying to see if I can create operable boats and ships for the open source flight simulator FlightGear. I call my proof-of-concept work 'FloatGear' 😁 . Today I was working on the USS Brooklyn and a question came to mind: Wouldn't most vessels have canvas covers over their boats during operation? I never see this modeled. I've adopted it in my virtual models primarily to save polygons but I'm not sure it's accurate. Anyhow, here are some screen shots of my work. The Olympia, Jacht and Kathryn are all in-sim. --jeff Baker, GrandpaPhil, BenD and 3 others 6 Quote --jeff In Process: Skipjack Kathryn 1/72 Card (scratch build) Completed Builds: Slavic (Viking) Longship 1/72 (Falconet), US Revenue Cutter 1/72 Card (Seahorse),
mtaylor Posted September 5, 2023 #2 Posted September 5, 2023 Keith Black 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GrandpaPhil Posted September 5, 2023 #3 Posted September 5, 2023 Greetings! Orel makes a card kit of the Brooklyn. Their kits are really nice. According to this picture off the Naval Encyclopedia website, there is a canvas cover over the boat. Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Baker Posted September 6, 2023 #4 Posted September 6, 2023 Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
ccoyle Posted September 6, 2023 #5 Posted September 6, 2023 Welcome! Yes, boats were typically covered, but modelers often omit the covers simply because open boats are more visually interesting -- same reason why guns on sailing men-of-war are nearly always shown run out for action, even if the model is bare-poled or wears a full suit of sails instead of greatly reduced battle sail. Cheers! mtaylor, Keith Black and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Keith Black Posted September 6, 2023 #6 Posted September 6, 2023 Jeff, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard. If regards to the ship's boats being covered....often the ship's boats were used for maneuvers (earlier times not so today), drills, and to go ashore. Afterward the boats would need to dry out and would remain uncovered for a spell. Modeling a ship with the boats covered or uncovered would be correct in both cases, IMHO. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
mtaylor Posted September 6, 2023 #7 Posted September 6, 2023 I'll add to what Keith mentioned. Boats were often left uncovered also for "maintenance" which was basically dumping a bucket or two of water in them to keep the wood from drying out and shrinking which leads to leaking. Sometime they got covered back up. Captain's choice in this. Keith Black 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Jsk Posted September 9, 2023 Author #8 Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) Thanks, all. That confirms what I suspected regarding the boats. @GrandpaPhil That's a great picture of the Brooklyn! Changing topics... Does anyone have any opinions regarding Falconet's 9th century Slavic Longboat as a beginner's first kit? I saw some earlier postings linking the company with possible infringement but on the other hand the model is offered through a MSW sponsor so I'm not quite sure what to think. On the third hand... the model fits my price-point, interest level and probable skill level so I'm thinking of giving it a go. Thanks, --jeff Edited September 9, 2023 by Jsk mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and Keith Black 3 Quote --jeff In Process: Skipjack Kathryn 1/72 Card (scratch build) Completed Builds: Slavic (Viking) Longship 1/72 (Falconet), US Revenue Cutter 1/72 Card (Seahorse),
Keith Black Posted September 9, 2023 #9 Posted September 9, 2023 This one, Jeff? looks easy enough. https://craftysailor.com/products/ix-century-slavic-longship-1-72 mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Jsk Posted September 9, 2023 Author #10 Posted September 9, 2023 Yep, that's the one. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote --jeff In Process: Skipjack Kathryn 1/72 Card (scratch build) Completed Builds: Slavic (Viking) Longship 1/72 (Falconet), US Revenue Cutter 1/72 Card (Seahorse),
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