Need advice on US Brig Niagara carronade rigging

[Jack Dunbar]

Anybody working on this ship? I’m just now getting ready to install cannonades. Need advise on cannon rigging

 

[ccoyle]

Moved to proper sub-forum.

[gsdpic]

Jack....if you click on the magnifying glass in the upper right where it says "Search...." it will bring up the advanced search page.  Then click on the "+ Search by tags" and type in "niagara" and click on "Search content" it will show all posts that have been tagged with "niagara".  Many of those posts will be build logs for the kit you are building.   You may be able to find what you are looking for in one of those build logs or find someone who has recently completed the step you are unsure about.

 

[GrandpaPhil]

For a swivel mounted carronade it will be similar to this:

That’s on the Victory, so the carronade is a little bigger and a little heavier than what Niagara packed, but yours will be of a similar configuration, just most likely with only one set of blocks on each side to aim, not two sets on each side like is on mine.

Edited April 27 by GrandpaPhil

[allanyed]

This is not to say the Americans followed the same practice, but from Caruana's The History of English Sea Ordnance, volume II, page 204, including the drawing below, the following is taken from Dupin. 

 

Dupin stated that the rigging is based on details taken off, with great exactness, from carronades in vessels taken by the French from the English. 

 

The drawing shows that there is one breeching rope as well as one running rigging line with a single and double block, not two sets with two double blocks, on each side.  Also note the difference in diameter of the running rigging line compared to the breech rope which is much larger.   Of course there may have been be exceptions or variations as is often the case.

 

Note that the blocks are secured to eye bolts with hooks rather than being tied to them. 

 

Allan

 

 

 

Edited April 27 by allanyed

[Thukydides]

What size were the carronades on the niagra? If you look at the topic linked below I posted the size of the blocks and rope and the number of them as of 1798 for the British. Now this is a little earlier than your time period, but by that 1790s it seems the mounting systems for carronades has begun to solidify so it is likely still applicable. That being said as @allanyed notes American practice may have been different.

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36354-gun-positions-and-their-associated-tackle/?do=findComment&comment=1042700

 

Edited April 27 by Thukydides

[allanyed]

Ron,

 I believe she carried eighteen 32 pounder carronades as well as two 12 pounder long guns so for the carronades the tackle on each side would have had an 8 inch single and 8 inch double block with 2.5" circumference rope as shown on the drawing above.  The breech rope would have been about 7 inches in circumference.   If this is the Model Shipway kit at 1:64 the blocks would be about 1/8" long.

 

Allan

Edited April 27 by allanyed

[Jack Dunbar]

Allan’s advice helps a lot. Fully rigging takes a lot patience and time but I think it will be worth it.

thanks Jack

[Jack Dunbar]