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Thank you all.... yes. I will always see those small "things" not quite right so better to start from scratch again. Still have some planks available but will need to get more for future parts...

 

Have no plans for a "bad" hull at this moment, but will think of some usage, definitely will not warm me up in the winters :-)..

 

I just like this little ship and want to have it as correct as possible..

 

 

 

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Posted

Such nice work 👍. If you want to see if you are filing the surfaces flat - just get a pencil and scribble all over the surface. Then file again and see if the marks are removed. This worked for me - keep the updates coming! 

Posted

Working on filling pieces.... first made a 15cm long stripe of wood and on its edge cut a groove 1x1mm, taking into account that filling pieces are not equal in hight, based on plan from plate #6. For example, this one has a groove on the bottom so I cut extra length..
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.. put it in place..
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.. mark its hight...
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.. and cut ..
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... then with a small amount of glue, put in place between frames..
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.. end results... not perfect...
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Keep into account the groove (or water channel) direction changes at frame #22..

Happy modelling..

Posted

 

Filling piece shaped and ready for installation...

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I care about environment so managed to recycle filling transforms from abandoned build..

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Master carpenter arrived to check the progress... 

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Happy modelling..

Posted

 

Frames are completed, time to get rid of not used templates.
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Now, I am working on stern solid filling timber, first, cut the template and glue it to the board.
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Cut and sanded.. and same templates glued to the back..
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Marking it for shaping..
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Here templates (white line) can be seeing on the back and front..
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Start carving... first with the ends to make sure not to break the wood... must admit this wood (pear) is perfect for carving. Speaking of which, need to order few more boards..

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then carving following the dotted lines..
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Semi-end result...
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Next is a bit of sanding since my board is 6mm and I need 5mm..
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I left a bit more wood to do final sanding/carving when board is 5mm thick..

Happy modelling..

Posted

 

Last, frame #1, was lightly sanded and glued to the ship..
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Then, work on stern filling timber continues with glueing all parts..
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Then I created a small template out of paper in attempt to follow keel curvature...
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Testing fitting after initial sanding
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Another template added to the filling
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Sanding, testing...
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Preparing for more carving work...
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Happy modelling.

Posted
2 hours ago, moreplovac said:

Yup, it is very nice ship; regretting I had no much scratch build experience, this will be just beauty, but next one will be better... 

 

There are many builders on this blog site, including myself, who have little to no scratch-build experience and undertake projects similar to your project and the one I am building slower than evolution. You are progressing nicely with your model, sending encouragement to you. I just hope that I can build a respectable model and like you have lots to learn ahead.  

Posted

Thank you bdgiantman2, really much appreciated. 

 

My scratch build experience goes back to elementary school when I was making a small racing boat; during some "normal" elementary kids school fight, all boat frames were broken and I decided to give up boat building :-). Now, back into the scratch build again... Hopefully someone will learn something from my mistakes... I definitely will.. 

 

More sanding happening.... working on external hull..

 

there are some frames that would need a bit of alteration hopefully not visible at the end.

 

For testing after sanding process, I will lay down one plank on the hull and see if frames fits nicely. I can see that frame 31 will need some work..

 

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Happy modelling..

 

Posted

So.... very sad news for me.... during my work today the Rochefort slipped from the work area and three frames broke beyond repair...

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I have tried to glue them back again but the broken areas are too visible for my liking; I might be able to hide it with all planking but that was the area I planned to have opened so .... hmm, hard for me to say but after all these hours spent, I will need to abandon this built...Too bad for lost wood but will try to reuse parts in some other project...

What to say, thank you all for following me and will see you in the next project very shortly, need to clean my head from this disaster with a new building process.. Learned a lot with this first scratch build and will definitely get back to Rochefort but this time in bigger scale (purchased plan already) and after some time...

Now, need to clean my working area and try to obtain few more tools I found necessary for successful scratch build.

Thank you again and as always

Happy modelling..

Posted

I too have had some very disappointing days during my build and things can get disheartening. Take a few days and it always seems better.  I think your build was coming along beautifully.   I hope you do get to finish this ship 👍

Posted

Thank you No Idea, not giving up Rochefort at all, you wont get rid of me that easy…😁, . made book/plan/monograph investment so will not give up easily. Need to break a bit from model and more wood since i used all i ordered before, with my two attempts…. 

I have purchased a larger scale plans so will continue with it in the near future. Need more woods and some tools (for example mini disk sander) and will be back on it. For now will clean my desk, reorganize storage, replace working bench and enjoy my Golf R over the summer.

Posted (edited)

This definitely looks repairable (replacing only these particular frames), Isopropyl Alcohol is a common solution - it dissolves the glue and then evaporates without leaving a trace, allowing you to replace the parts without going for a full rebuild!

Hope to see you back in this log after a well deserved break 😊

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Posted

Yes, I will try to repair it, or even replace few ribs, that is doable as well. No giving up, but need to order some woods which will take some time to arrive..

In the meantime will finish up my working area... La Rochefort will be completed, in this scale or bigger..

 

Cheers

 

Posted

 

Ok, some surgical time was put in LR and results are, ah, well, so-so but at this moment not able to do better without scraping it in wood-burning pizza oven, which I don't want to do.
I was able to glue back broken pieces and now, need some sanding and special techniques to hide those spots where extra glue and cracks are visible at this moment.
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Also, I finished adding filler pieces at the bow, feeling like a dentist when you go for a crown work: put crown on, bite, not good? Sand, bite, not good? Sand... since I was able too use plan template for filling pieces only up to certain point; after that was all test fitting/sanding... but I got it decently installed.
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Aslo, working on installing stern parts which will have a hull ready for more sanding.

I am running out of wood so need to place an order for more woods which will put LR on short hold until wood arrives.

Happy modelling.

Posted

Little bit of sanding was done on my model… 

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Need more clean up (scraping, sanding) since sanding with a tool does provide a bit extra removed wood, so need to clean up, flatten and shape the frames. Still have enough wood so not a problem there.
Also, will continue with hand sanding to fill out cracks more carefully..

Happy modelling..

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