captainbob Posted April 30, 2014 #91 Posted April 30, 2014 I've done that too many times. "I better put that somewhere for safe keeping." That is often the last I see of it. Good luck in finding the Herreshoff. That should be a fun build. Bob pete48 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
pete48 Posted April 30, 2014 Author #92 Posted April 30, 2014 Hi Bob, Its one of those things that when you move , Always for me anyway, one box ends up missing. just so happens to be the Herreshoff. I am thinking that its inside another box I will turn this house upside down again to find it . It was the project that I wanted to start with once the move was done. Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
hexnut Posted May 1, 2014 #93 Posted May 1, 2014 The latest addition to your lobster fleet is looking great! As far as the Herreshoff sloop, you know the absolute sure-fire way to find it is to start building a new one. When your progress approximates that of the original, it will spontaneously appear under your nose. At least that's how things seem to work in my environment... pete48 1 Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
captainbob Posted May 1, 2014 #94 Posted May 1, 2014 Pete, I think you're doing fine. The last time I moved it took me six months to get set up so I couold get back to modeling. Bob pete48 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
pete48 Posted May 2, 2014 Author #95 Posted May 2, 2014 Thank you Bob ( Hexnut) Unfortunatly the plans to build the boat are in the same box as the Herreshoff ( I try and keep everything together). Thank you Cap'n'Bob, I hope I does not take that long to find everything. I figured if I forget about it ( The Herreshoff ) it will show up Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 2, 2014 Author #96 Posted May 2, 2014 Another beautiful sunny day here, so I finished wet sanding Keel # 4 masked it again and sprayed 3 coats of gloss white, I am Happy with the way the Transom turned out on this one. Inbetween coats I cut out the deck and cockpit floor for Keel # 5 Here are the results themadchemist and hexnut 2 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 2, 2014 Author #97 Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) I could not wait any longer and unmasked Keel # 4, I did remove the center board before painting. I am pleased with the results and here they are Edited May 2, 2014 by pete48 hexnut, captainbob and themadchemist 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
russ Posted May 2, 2014 #98 Posted May 2, 2014 Nice paint job. It looks really smooth and the line you masked appears very crisp. Russ pete48 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
pete48 Posted May 2, 2014 Author #99 Posted May 2, 2014 Thank you Russ, I was happy with Paint job on this one Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 3, 2014 Author #100 Posted May 3, 2014 Today I worked on Keel # 3 , I really liked how the paint turned out on Keel # 4 , so I decided to sand the finish off and re Fair the Hull. This way I could Fair in the Tumblehome. She is just about ready for paint. Here are the results captainbob and themadchemist 2 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
michael mott Posted May 3, 2014 #101 Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) Very Nice Pete, These small boat really do have a charm about them. Michael Edited May 3, 2014 by michael mott pete48 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
pete48 Posted May 3, 2014 Author #102 Posted May 3, 2014 Thank you Michael, They do have somthing special about them. and they are fun to build Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 4, 2014 Author #103 Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Today I got Keel # 3 in primer, then lost the good weather I had . I then decided to plank Keel # 5 and spent the rest of the day getting it finished. I was pleased with the way it turned out. Next she will be ready for Fairing. Here are the results Edited May 4, 2014 by pete48 mtaylor, themadchemist, hexnut and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
russ Posted May 4, 2014 #104 Posted May 4, 2014 That planking looks good to my eye. You seem to have a good thing going with lobster smacks. Russ pete48 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
pete48 Posted May 4, 2014 Author #105 Posted May 4, 2014 Thank you Russ, I was pleased with how the planking turned out. I enjoy building Lobster Smacks, they have such beautiful lines that I am just hooked Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 5, 2014 Author #106 Posted May 5, 2014 The day started with rain, so any chance of getting Keel # 3 painted today was out of the question. I did do some fairing and filled in some slight low spots ( I used Titebond as a filler ) I then turned my attention to Keel # 5 , I first faired in the sheer line so that the top plank lines up with the top of the frames, I then did some rough fairing installed the deck did more fairing and got close to a final fairing. Here are the results Aussie048, themadchemist, IgorSky and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
russ Posted May 5, 2014 #107 Posted May 5, 2014 The sweep of the sheer line looks pretty good in the photos. Nice work. Russ pete48 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
pete48 Posted May 5, 2014 Author #108 Posted May 5, 2014 Thank you Russ, I am happy with the results of the sheer line, it follows more closely to the Midwest version of the boat. I am using the plans that came with the midwest kit I previously built to build Keel # 5 ( for the most part ) I am doing it as a no frills version, just very simple. its been a fun build thus far. Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 6, 2014 Author #109 Posted May 6, 2014 With the weather here still raining, I started cutting out the rest of the parts for Keel # 5 . The Cockpit/Cabin Coamings wich I used 1/16 thick material . I soaked the Coamings in rubbing alcohol for 45 minutes and still broke the first one, ( you can see it in the photos ) I then leaving the other Coaming in the alcohol, cut out the cutwater, the rudder, cabin top and the hatches. I sanded and dry fit the Cutwater so its ready for instalation. I then pulled the other Coaming out of the alcohol now its been soaking for an hour and a half . I did manage to get the Cabin side of the coaming bent, I like the thicker look that the cockpit will have , so I will take my time with the port side coaming I will cut out a new Port side Cabin / Cockpit Coaming first. I did complete more of the fairing and should be ready for primer soon. Here are the results mtaylor, themadchemist, Aussie048 and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
dgbot Posted May 6, 2014 #110 Posted May 6, 2014 Your sloop is turning into an interesting vessel. David B pete48 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
pete48 Posted May 6, 2014 Author #111 Posted May 6, 2014 Thank you David, Keel # 5 is going together fast and I am trying out a few things . Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
themadchemist Posted May 6, 2014 #112 Posted May 6, 2014 Wow, you've been busy... I guess so am I. One needs to come up for air from building every once in a while as its easy to get behind on ones log reading. I really like the fairing of the stern on keel 3 you show in post #100. Is it just me or does that one have WAY more tumblehome shaped into her stern? Either way its really noticeable in those photos and looks GREAT. It adds a lot to the already awesome lines of the MBLS. Your paint job also turned out really nice, with a crisp sheer-line.... and what a bummer that the coaming broke on #5.Which brings up a question. I've only ever used water, usually hot, to soak for bending. What are the reasons/advantages of using alcohol.Nice work as always, I find your obsession with this vessel intriguing as I purchased a kit over a year ago after seeing Mario's build. It is one beautifully lined vessel and your multi-build with subtle changes reminds me of Monet and his water lilies. Mastery through repetition. I still want to build this kit and do some bashing but there are so many great minds doing so many interesting things, I'll wait and learn all the lessons being taught before attacking mine. Of course by then you'll be at keel 20 something Your verve is contagious pete48 1 Quote
pete48 Posted May 6, 2014 Author #113 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Thank you Keith , I have been I like to junp in both feet at once. I did make the tumblehome more dramatic on Keel # 3 ( post # 100 ) It was somthing I thought to try since I was going to paint it anyway,( it was alot of work , Fairing and filler ) It did give the transom a nice line. I did make a new Portside Coaming for # 5 . I started using alcohol for bending when a freind of mine that was building model airplanes, said that because it was alcohol it would dry faster. You could have the piece ready to install more quickly.( wich has worked for me ) You should build your kit they are fun to build, they have become a sort of addiction for me. Best Regards, Pete Edited May 6, 2014 by pete48 themadchemist 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 7, 2014 Author #114 Posted May 7, 2014 I started the day by laying out and cutting out a new Port side Cockpit / Cabin Coaming for Keel # 5 . I then put the Coamings In rubbing alcohol . I then sanded Keel # 3 and got it ready for the second coat of primer. 2 hours later the Coamings were plyable and bent easily , I then sized and installed them on Keel # 5 . I then sprayed primer on Keel # 3, wich I now know I should have waited ( it's still to cold outside ) and made a mess out of it . I then sanded the Cockpit / Cabin Coamings ( I will do this again using 1/16" thick material ), I like the look . Here are the results themadchemist, dgbot, hexnut and 3 others 6 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 8, 2014 Author #115 Posted May 8, 2014 The day started with me fixing the mistake on Keel # 3 ( the primer mistake lots of sandiing ) after that, I then shot 3 coats of gloss white. I will wetsand in the morning and do about 2 coats more, In the mean time I made a cradle for Keel # 4 . I then installed the cutwater on Keel # 5 and did some more fairing on it. here are the results IgorSky and russ 2 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
dgbot Posted May 8, 2014 #116 Posted May 8, 2014 Your hull has a unique shape and is interesting to look at David B pete48 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
pete48 Posted May 8, 2014 Author #117 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Thanks David, Keel # 5 folllows the same sheer line as the kit wich gives it that hump toward the bow.( I did not care for the look of it ) When I started scratch building These Lobster boat's , I lofted the drawings from the Chapelle plans I wanted a more sweeping sheer line. ( you can see the difference in the 2 photos ) Keel # 4 and Keel # 5 Best Regards, Pete Edited May 8, 2014 by pete48 IgorSky 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 9, 2014 Author #118 Posted May 9, 2014 Today, I thought to take a break from the painting and sanding ( Keel # 3 & 5 ) and work on Keel # 4 . First I stained 1/16" material( I let it dry for 2 hours ) then soaked them in alcohol so that I could bend them into ribs between the frames. ( I just eyeballed the spacing ) I then cut out a nice piece of birch plywood for the front of the cockpit in front of the fish well deck, and installed it. I then made floor boards for the inside of the cabin ( stained them ) , I will leave them loose so that the bilge can be easily accessed. Here are the results The Sailor, IgorSky, themadchemist and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted May 10, 2014 Author #119 Posted May 10, 2014 Today, I worked on Keel # 4 . I first layed out the deck, and then the Cabin / Cockpit coamings ( I went with the same size as Keel # 5 1/16" thick ) I then cut out the deck and coamings , I then put the Coamings in alcohol ( I knew that I would need to soak them for a while ) I then turned my attention to fitting and installing the deck , I then installed the Coamings . Here are the results The Sailor, themadchemist, trippwj and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
The Sailor Posted May 10, 2014 #120 Posted May 10, 2014 Great work Pete. I like the colouring. pete48 1 Quote Cheers, Richard. ------------------------------Current build: Mercury, Russian brig, America's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), AmatiCompleted build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKaNext:
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.