HMS Victory by dragzz - Corel - scale 1/98

[dragzz]

hello popeye template for a corel kit whats that thay say lol  i have the plans coyped to cut them out i when i put the on the ship thay just dont look right .not to sure where to go from here

[dragzz]

as u see here i used a penclie to draw on the gun ports now to me they just dont look right let me know what u all think

 

 

 

[dragzz]

tys u john i could use a lot of help i will post pic as much as i can thank u and welcome to my build log

[dragzz]

i here u there canone   i got the jig all made just looking to get it right befor i do anything now dont wont to mess this part up so just bare whis this u all all ways have great infor for me thanks again 

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz

 

Humanity reared its ugly head, hows that "lol" 

 

All is good ATM and I am back in the shipyard, Sawdust is such a happy thing to have around. Should have posts in both logs shortly 

 

As for the gun-ports I will gladly let you bask in that glory.

 

My plan for now is to plank the hull then attach another piece of planking to the hull. Maybe pinning it where I am  certain there will be a port. On this "batten"  I will have the port locations which I will transfer to the hull. Then drill a small hole for a jig that will be used to mark the ports. I  like using jigs for consistency. I am doing the gun-ports on my Ratt and constantly trying to apply what I am learning there. Either way the one thing I learned from my Ratt is that the ports need to follow a line. Although stills are level and and the ports follow the deck they as a group still flow. My gunport jig might also be slightly smaller then needed so there will be room to fudge. I have to see how much fudging can be done with that cast port "thingy" included with the kit.  

 

This could all change after I see what you do

 

I am on ' Take 6" with the  Ratt ports but am very happy with where I am. A little tired of ports however. Not as tired as you will shortly be 

 

As for your question regarding removing the parts from those sheets: "That pressed stuff". I did some experimenting with the grating for the main deck. You can make them with real wood or the pressed wood. The kit comes with both. 

 

I cut "big" around the part and then placed the part on a flat surface with some sand paper, Then sanded the bottom until the excess got really thin. Once it got paper thin I cut it off with my razor knife. It is the same way I remove vacuumed formed plastic parts. For me it worked just fine. I will PM you picks of my 'test grates" if you would like, They came out really well, so well I might just use them. Or I will post them in my log, "either way". 

Edited August 26, 2014 by JPett

[dragzz]

hello jpett yes u can pm that if u like to i dont want to do that ports but i have to lol  iam working on it right now so will see how it going .iam not going to cut them out yet

Edited August 26, 2014 by dragzz

[Shipyard sid]

Good morning dragzz

Looks like everybody's been waiting for you to return, friend galore and I got a chair. Well done DAVID

[dragzz]

 tys sid .iam working on it to get it right the gunports are driving me nuts lol. but iam working on it i will get it 

[dragzz]

ok here u see what iam trying to do . and yes cannoe i have the jig make for it lol .. in the pic u will see iam cutting out the ports on the coyped plans i had done so i think this will be the right way to set up much better be for i put on the ship let me know what u all think  tys all

 

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

looks like you got some really great pointers.......the jig is a good idea to insure they're all the same size

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz

 

The plans are a 2 dimensional representation of a 3D object. The square ports show this as a slight distortion when they approach the bow, although the part is actually the exact same one used for all ports they all do not look exactly the same on the plans. This means the measurements from the plans must be applied in the same way as they are taken from them. Along a straight line running parallel to the hull, not to the hull itself.  I hope that wasn't too confusing 

Edited August 26, 2014 by JPett

[dragzz]

tys canoe21 good to know iam going the right way i will use the jig to make sure there all the same tys

 

 

tys popeye yes poeple are giving me great info of what i need to do

 

 

hello jpett as all ways great info from u as we build the same kit once i get the ports done all will be good. the best to get thing done is just to take are time and   just have fun with the build 

[dragzz]

as jpett says on with the show. i send jpett a pm today i went to the hobby shop came home with two more ships i said i hate going to the hobby shop lol. jpett look like i got the flu lol. ok now what i have done on the victory. i put on the gunports again in pencile this time i got it right i went right off the plans i have some pic so u all can see what iam doing befor i cut them out let me know what u think 

 

 

 

[JPett]

AHoy Dragzz  

 

I think that looks much better. They really seem to have a nice flow. The million dollar question is "Do they all line up with your #31's"  Sorry I couldn't resist  

 

I just realized you are working on the first layer of planking too. Will you be cutting these out now or are you just marking them for later.

[dragzz]

so jpett so u are a funny guy lol with the gunports i will cut them out so the last planking i can cut the planks as i put them on  so far its looking good 

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz

 

Your ports look great, I see that; that it is the way the Caldercraft Vic is done. Although they have that nice cheater sheet with the ports already cut out.  It might just be the best way to do this kit.. Corel's take on this is a little unnerving.

 

Thankfully I have your log to follow. Thanks for posting

Edited August 29, 2014 by JPett

[dragzz]

hello jpett iam never Serious"  its all in fun thats how i look at things i have looked at lots of diff victorys each kit is diff i was just looksing for the best way to do the gunports iam trying to post as many pic of my corel vic to help poeple that are doing the same kit build . iv seen geat builds on of the corel vic some of the pic i need help with are not on msw so thats what iam trying to do show all i can 

[dragzz]

hello all what u will see in the pic is i cut out 3 of the gunports.  yes i do know there look ruff right now but thay still need to be trimed and stuff just thot id show i pic of what i did so here it is

 

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

looking good Dragzz......now to keep them even, level, and square

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz 

 

Looks like your off to a good start 

 

I am following this log and although it is a different ship it is a Corel kit and I am finding much insight here 

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6357-le-mirage-by-fnick-corel-wood-175/?p=184737

 

He has just completed his second planking doing the ports just as you are planning to

[dragzz]

hello popeye yes all is going well i will take the time tys

 

 

canoe thank u for your kindwords  and info i will soak it all in 

 

 

jpett i got a new bit today so cut out the ports just right i will pm what iam useing it might make it better for u to do it as well

[dragzz]

as u see here in the pic i got some more gunports cut out . iam just going to cut out all the ports then make sure there all in line as i trim them so that look great . ps iam getting there and jpett thank u for all the info canoe and popeye   

 

 

 

[dragzz]

hello all. my build will be on hold for a few day do to cut my hand at 1.00pm today i was cutting out one of the gunports with number #11 xzato blade it was a new one it sliped i hit the top on my hand got a 5 stitches . thats my bad i will be on the site from time to time 

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz  

 

Ouch 

 

Sorry to hear of this mishap. Make the effort to keep it clean and you will only be back sooner 

[dragzz]

hello all 

 

ty neptune tys i will be back as u say i will take the time to do some reseach now

 

 

tys jpett if u get to the gunports ples dont use a #11 blade lol  . tys for your kind words

[dragzz]

ok i did a little work opps  here in the pic i got ports trimed there looking real good now .yes i have the shipbuilding flu lol . i had to do some work here a pic for ya

 

 

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz  

 

Wow 

 

Most impressive, that looks really good

 

[dragzz]

hello jpett thanku for kind words. its comeing along real good so far might try to do some more today 

[dragzz]

hello canoe21  tys for kind words. iam now useing the same knife that u did now . its works abit better now tys for info

[clearway]

Hope your hand heals soon- i also use a utility knife for work like this as it is more controllable. keep up the good work - gunports look great.

keith