Don Quixote Posted February 13, 2014 #1 Posted February 13, 2014 I recently bought model expo's fair-a-frame and regret the waste of money. It's unstable, week, and the parts that's supposed to do the actual work of squaring bulkheads can't be clamped in place, nor does it have the weight or anything to push against the bulkheads. It moves, wobbles from side to side and simply does not stay in place, thus cannot hold anything square. Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
WackoWolf Posted February 13, 2014 #2 Posted February 13, 2014 Before buying anything like that look in the tool database and there is a post about tools that are not worth the money it takes to make them. Another way is to ask here before buying. Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
Stockholm tar Posted February 13, 2014 #3 Posted February 13, 2014 I get the impression that anything called 'fair' a something, 'loom' a something, or whatever else a something, is a complete waste of money and doesn't do the job. I don't think there are any real short cuts to rigging, or any other task in model making – there is only the correct way, very often how it was done on the actual ship. It might take longer, but it's worth getting it right. Bob Cleek 1 Kester Current builds: Sherbourne (Caldercraft) scale – 1/64th; Statsraad Lehmkuhl (half model) 1/8th" – 1'. Victory Bow Section (Panart/Mantua) scale – 1/78th (on hold). Previous build: Bluenose ll (Billings) scale – 1/100th.
dgbot Posted February 13, 2014 #4 Posted February 13, 2014 Every year at our clubs we would have a round table on tools that are not needed or are a waste of money. The fair a frame is always the first item listed. David B WackoWolf 1 Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
Don Quixote Posted February 13, 2014 Author #5 Posted February 13, 2014 Ya know, I KNEW I saw a tool forum, and it was pretty easy to find, but when I looked for it again, I couldn’t find it. Brian Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
mtaylor Posted February 14, 2014 #6 Posted February 14, 2014 Brian, Have a look here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-materials-and-tools.php ulrich and WackoWolf 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
ulrich Posted February 14, 2014 #7 Posted February 14, 2014 Some years ago, I bought this "thing" from ME. Looked at it, tinkered with it and promptly threw it into the trash can. Ulrich
Don Quixote Posted February 14, 2014 Author #8 Posted February 14, 2014 trying to figure out a way to make it work. Mount it to the workbench, but I need some decent weights to push against the... Whatever the **** you call the piece that's supposed to slide against the bulkheads. The base is perfectly square, so in theory it could work. My daddy never raised any quitters. Damn it. I'm also thinking on rails that can be mounted about 2/3 from the stem of the ship onto the base that I can adjust the length of, to push against the whatever the *** you call the part that's supposed to push against the bulkhead to keep them square. Whataya call that thing? I call it the square®. Or in this case, the squareless. If it works, I'll keep y'all up to date. If you don't hear anything assume I'm, I'm I'm a failure... CaptainSteve 1 Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
DMK Modeler Posted February 29, 2020 #9 Posted February 29, 2020 Thanks for the "heads-up." I was all set to buy it; glad I checked it out. mtaylor 1
JohnLea Posted February 29, 2020 #10 Posted February 29, 2020 Have a look at Retired Guy's approach the to Fair a Frame at the begining of his Bluenose log. The closer you get to Canada, the more things will eat your horses. ~ T. King
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