HMS Snake by drtrap - Caldercraft

[drtrap]

Almost ready to "install" the bowsprit mast... 

[foxy]

Nice work ,looking good.

 

Frank 

[Beef Wellington]

Looking good Stergios, it might be worth considering doing the gammoning soon, it doesn't interfere with any subsequent rigging but you might appreciate having it done before the other rigging makes it more difficult than it needs to be.

[drtrap]

Thank you all guys!

 

@Jason thank you for your advice, everything is placed temporarily for the moment. Putting the bowsprit on and off the board enable me to proceed to the realative rigging anf fittings but in the other hand to store the ship into the custom-made anti-dust naylon bag, every time I'm away the shipyard . 

I consider as my 1st permanent step, doing the gammoning.

Thank's again.

Edited October 14, 2016 by Stergios

[drtrap]

This is my personal point of view (in consecutive pics) regarding the main and preventer stay collars...

[drtrap]

Rigging of main and preventer stay collars finished

 

Now its time for the next turn.

I'm thinking to leave the bowsprit mounting and other relative fittings for a later stage because I want to avoid any unexpected "injury" of those parts.

So my plan is to continue and accomplish any other "posterior" and "vertical" rigging is now available, and to leave the two final stages of yards and bowsprit for the end.

 

I'm not so sure what;s your experienced opinions for my thoughts... 

Edited October 27, 2016 by Stergios

[Beef Wellington]

Looking good Stergios, I mounted the bowsprit standing rigging before any of the masts and associated rigging without any problems,did not seem to get in the way at all (except for boomkins which went on with the masts)

[mort stoll]

I did the same thing. I rig from front to back but fellow club members prefer back to front. Its a matter of taste.

Keep up the great work,

Mort

[drtrap]

Jason, Mort

thank you so much for your support, mates.

 

Cheers

[drtrap]

Well, is a real headache trying to understand the rest of the rigging of the ship....   (especially when this is your 1st effort).

Did you find your way from the plans of the kit or from other period rigging manuals? 

Thanks

Edited October 25, 2016 by Stergios

[Beef Wellington]

Always the key references...D'Arcy Lever's "Young Sea Officers Sheet Anchor", and Lennarth Petersson's "Rigging Period Ship Models".

[mort stoll]

I used Lever and Pierson along with the plans.

Mort

[drtrap]

Lennarth Petersson's "Rigging Period Ship Models" is on my desk.

In difficult cases, I know I'll find your help....

[drtrap]

Finally I decide to go with the yards...

I leave the bowsprit and other rigiing for later.

My current plan is to prepare and fit all the yards before I place them on the masts.

Cheers.

Edited October 28, 2016 by Stergios

[drtrap]

Before I go, three basic questions to know in advance:

a) Have you used 1 brass wire for the respective connections or something thicker? The No 145 on the right, could be No 146 1,5mm wire?

Have you used the casting material of the kit for the boom rings of the yards (No 152, 153) or card-paper or stirrups?

and

c) I'm not seeing any of those "caps" (at each end of the yard) into the kit... Is it something important? Can I deal without its existence?

 

Thank you in advance again

Edited October 28, 2016 by Stergios

[drtrap]

Any idea for those casting parts (6 pieces)?

Cheers

[Beef Wellington]

Can't remember what they are called (trucks?) - they are lashed to some of the backstays and they keep certain lines of the running rigging configured so they don't foul others.  Not the best explanation, but hope it helps.  They are called out on the plans if I remember correctly.

[drtrap]

Thank you Jason.

 

Any additional help about the post #860?  

[davyboy]

Hi Stergios,

 

The item you have indicated with the yellow line should be on the photoetch supplied with the kit. If they are the same (which is likely) as in the C.C. Cruiser kit the rounded portion is too large and the flat portion too wide,easily fixed with a small file. I had to reduce mine by about 1mm to fit with the yardarm end dimension given on the Cruiser plans and approximately halved the width of the straps as they looked very out of scale.

 

The trucks are for the Topsail Yard ties which should be led through them. They are lashed to the aft Topmast Backstays,their position should be shown on the rigging plans.

 

Dave

Edited October 29, 2016 by davyboy

[jim_smits]

Hi Stergios

Got some of those fitted on my (stalled!) snake. I'll take a photo when I get back home.

[Beef Wellington]

Before I go, three basic questions to know in advance:

a) Have you used 1 brass wire for the respective connections or something thicker? The No 145 on the right, could be No 146 1,5mm wire?

Have you used the casting material of the kit for the boom rings of the yards (No 152, 153) or card-paper or stirrups?

and

c) I'm not seeing any of those "caps" (at each end of the yard) into the kit... Is it something important? Can I deal without its existence?

 

Thank you in advance again

 

a) I used what was recommended, no issues

Yes, photos in my log think show this

c) I used the caps, but as Davyboy pointed out, they are too big.  I made card to simulate the various iron band, the PE end cap is not really needed and its easier to not use it I think.

[drtrap]

Hi Stergios,

 

The item you have indicated with the yellow line should be on the photoetch supplied with the kit. If they are the same (which is likely) as in the C.C. Cruiser kit the rounded portion is too large and the flat portion too wide,easily fixed with a small file. I had to reduce mine by about 1mm to fit with the yardarm end dimension given on the Cruiser plans and approximately halved the width of the straps as they looked very out of scale.

 

The trucks are for the Topsail Yard ties which should be led through them. They are lashed to the aft Topmast Backstays,their position should be shown on the rigging plans.

 

Dave

Hi Dave

Finally I've found those parts, I'll try to test their dimensions tomorrow.

Thank you! 

 

Btw do you think that the brass wire No 145 on the right side of the photo/plan (post #860) is in fact 1,5 mm brass wire (No 146)?

Thanks again. 

Edited October 30, 2016 by Stergios

[drtrap]

@Jim: Thanks Jim, I'll be waiting...

 

@Jason: by looking your #656 post I see that you decided to replace parts No 152 & 153 with styrene or thin card... 

[drtrap]

Between two options to drill a hole and pin the yards to the masts.

1mm Vs 1,5 mm wire.

Thinking to use the 1,5 mm wire 

[drtrap]

Casting parts of small and large stunsail boom rings (middle) in need for open the respective hole of 1mm

Edited October 30, 2016 by Stergios

[Robin Lous]

Any idea for those casting parts (6 pieces)?

Cheers

Not sure if it's of any use for you, but I found a nice image of a truck in a book about masts and rigging..

 

 

 With one or two holes.

[drtrap]

Not sure if it's of any use for you, but I found a nice image of a truck in a book about masts and rigging..

 

 

 With one or two holes.

Thank you Robin.

Welcome!

 

Stergios

[davyboy]

Hi Dave

Finally I've found those parts, I'll try to test their dimensions tomorrow.

Thank you! 

 

Btw do you think that the brass wire No 145 on the right side of the photo/plan (post #860) is in fact 1,5 mm brass wire (No 146)?

Thanks again. 

Hi Stergios,

 

No idea really but I would definitely use 1mm brass wire,1,5mm is much too large in my opinion. I used the 1mm on my Cruiser,looks ok.

 

Dave

[jim_smits]

Beaten to it slightly but here is the piece as attached on my Snake.

Edited November 1, 2016 by jim_smits

[drtrap]

Thank you Jim

for the mo I spend my time trying to find the right way for the yards boom irons.....