dgbot Posted January 13, 2015 #91 Posted January 13, 2015 Impressive amount of detail and skill. My hat is taken off to you. Fantastic work. David B GLakie and mattsayers148 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
mattsayers148 Posted January 13, 2015 Author #92 Posted January 13, 2015 Hey David, Thank you for your positive words of encouragement. I have to share the positive input with those who help inspire me with their incredible abilities of craftsmanship and thinking outside the box. Hey CaptainSteve, I spent a couple hours yesterday looking at hundreds of photos from the Royal Museums Greenwich for the ratchet mechanism. I found one small service vessel that I think is the answer. The photos were a little grainy but I could make out what appears to be like the first image with the two pawls on the top side opposing each other. The windlass also looked to be the same overall diameter as the gear itself. I'm trying to figure a way to get an image that is easier to see. Matt CaptainSteve and GLakie 2 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
CaptainSteve Posted January 13, 2015 #93 Posted January 13, 2015 Please excuse my crappy freehand drawing (never been one of my strengths), but this is, allegedly, what the winch piece would look like ... GLakie and mattsayers148 2 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
mattsayers148 Posted January 13, 2015 Author #94 Posted January 13, 2015 Hey CaptainSteve, So only one side would have the ratchet assembly? GLakie 1 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
CaptainSteve Posted January 13, 2015 #95 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Not sure on that point, Matt. I'd suspect not. I would think there would be one on each side of the boat ... even if just for aesthetic purposes. But in my picture both ends were meant to be ratcheted. (By the way, that pic isn't exactly true to scale ... the central drum area would take up a greater percentage of the whole thing.) Edited January 13, 2015 by CaptainSteve mattsayers148 and GLakie 2 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
mattsayers148 Posted January 13, 2015 Author #96 Posted January 13, 2015 That seems to what I've seen in older models, the windlass looks pretty bulky. Matt GLakie 1 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
CaptainSteve Posted January 13, 2015 #97 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I guess you could scale back the working parts (ratchet ends and strength bands) a bit. Also, when you asked about the ratchet assembly being on both sides, I wondered whether the entire winch bar could be reversible. That way, only one pawl arm set-up would be needed on just a single side ... the winch bar (with both ends ratcheted) could then simply be lifted out and turned around to allow for winching either over the prow or over the stern crane. Edited January 13, 2015 by CaptainSteve GLakie and mattsayers148 2 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
mattsayers148 Posted January 13, 2015 Author #98 Posted January 13, 2015 Since the winch was most likely used not too often, reversing makes sense. CaptainSteve and GLakie 2 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
mattsayers148 Posted January 13, 2015 Author #99 Posted January 13, 2015 Or... Each side has a complete ratchet assembly, on side forward and the other side reversed. One side engaged, the other side free spinning. CaptainSteve and GLakie 2 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
mattsayers148 Posted January 14, 2015 Author #100 Posted January 14, 2015 I'm trying to guide my attention towards my tool chest...again. I found this list by googling 18th century shipbuilding tools. This may help those who might wonder what could have been in the carpenters toolbox. From Ralamb's Skeps Byggerij, 1691. Trans. by J. Aasland, Jr., Hampton, Va. Early Shipbuilding Tools used in Sweden and Other Countries 1—English Broad Axe. 2—Compass. 3—Compass with Chalk Holder. 4—Chalk Line on Roller. 5—Compass. 6—Axe for Holes. 7—Ruler. 8—Tongue on Ruler 1½ ft. 9—Dutch Ruler. 10—Tongue on Ruler for Ship layout. 11—Swedish Cutting Axe. 12—Trimming Hatchet. 13—Hook for removing old calking. 14—English Adz. 15—Adz. 16—Swedish or Dutch Adz. 17—English Handsaw. 18—Handsaw with Handle. 19—Mallet. 20—Hammer. 21—Claw Hammer. 22—Circle Saw. 23—Auger. 24—Dutch Brace Auger. 25—English Wood Chisel. 26—Wood Chisel. 27—English Mallet. 28—Gouge. 29—Swedish Mallet. 30—Gouge. 31—Gouge. 32—Gouge. 33—Calking Mallet. 34—Calking Tool. 35—Spike Iron. 36—Calking Tool. 37—Calking Mallet. 38—English Gouge. 39—Calking Iron. 40—Lubricating Tool, also for removing pitch. 41—Hook for removing oakum or old calking. 42—Calking Iron. 43—Calking Iron. 44—Tool used to clean out seams. 45—Calking Iron. 46—Calking Iron. 47—Scraper. Canute, IgorSky, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
CaptainSteve Posted January 14, 2015 #101 Posted January 14, 2015 Oh dear ... The squirrels have gotten free !! GLakie and mattsayers148 2 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
mattsayers148 Posted January 14, 2015 Author #102 Posted January 14, 2015 Hey CaptainSteve, Some call it OCD, some call it anal-retentive, some call it crazy! Just imagine what my family and co-workers are exposed to on a daily basis! It's kind of love, hate thing. Matt CaptainSteve and GLakie 2 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
jburchfield1@wowway.com Posted January 14, 2015 #103 Posted January 14, 2015 I think "crazy" might be appropriate at this scale? mattsayers148, CaptainSteve and GLakie 3 Quote Previous build(mostly) - 18th Century Longboat Current build - Bounty Launch Next build - San Francisco by AL Future build - Red Dragon Future build - Mayflower from Model Expo
Cathead Posted January 15, 2015 #104 Posted January 15, 2015 Really interesting image, thanks for sharing! mattsayers148 and GLakie 2 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
mattsayers148 Posted January 15, 2015 Author #105 Posted January 15, 2015 Hey Pops, I think you're right, at this scale there is WAY too many details to be done. I wonder if a life size boat would be quicker? Hey Cathead, it's my pleasure to share things I find. It's humbleing and inspirational to see all the incredible work done on the builds here. Thanks to everyone for all the likes. So I got my bag of gears today, and sad to see they seem a bit too small for the ratchet gear. I just might have to make them out of wood. Matt GLakie 1 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted January 16, 2015 #106 Posted January 16, 2015 Matt, It really wasn't that hard building the tools for the tool chest. Once I got the first tool completed, it really got me going with each and every tool after that. If you go to my log on the Launch you can see what I built. The hardest thing for me in this adventure in minuature was putting Bligh's inscription on his coconut. Mario GLakie and mattsayers148 2 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
mattsayers148 Posted January 16, 2015 Author #107 Posted January 16, 2015 Thanks Mario and for all the likes. I think your toolbox with tools was one of first I had seen when I started my build. It has certainly helped inspire me to see yours and others with such talent. Trial and error is a great teacher, but it's nice to have all the help here to avoid some of the common errors. Matt Cap'n Rat Fink and GLakie 2 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted January 16, 2015 #108 Posted January 16, 2015 Hey Matt, My log is not very great. MSW1 was upgraded to MSW2. But they had a crash that wiped everything out. But I have a some what more detailed build log here. It might help you with some questions if any. But you are really doing a great build here. Have fun. http://modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3529.0 I had a lot of fun building this boat. Right now I'm not building. Just putting my wood shop together. Then i will get back at it. GLakie, mattsayers148, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
mattsayers148 Posted January 16, 2015 Author #109 Posted January 16, 2015 Thank you Mario for your kind words. Matt GLakie 1 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
dgbot Posted January 16, 2015 #110 Posted January 16, 2015 Someone has been into the medicine cabinet and had to much tonic. David B mattsayers148 and GLakie 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
mattsayers148 Posted January 16, 2015 Author #111 Posted January 16, 2015 Maybe in my younger days David, after all I'm Irish. But maybe....that tonic might get rid of the crazy!? Matt GLakie 1 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
mattsayers148 Posted January 17, 2015 Author #112 Posted January 17, 2015 So I did some work on the windlass. I made the ratchet gears out of wood so that I could make it to whatever size need be. It was recommended that I bulk up the windlass, so I decided to add whelps. Only thing left to do is installing the pawls. I decided to install the gears opposite of each other so there would be a locked position for both up and down. IgorSky, Salty Sea Dog, CaptainSteve and 6 others 9 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
Keith_W Posted January 17, 2015 #113 Posted January 17, 2015 That has to be the most beautiful windlass I have ever seen, Matt. How did you make those ratchet wheels? GLakie, justsayrow, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
mattsayers148 Posted January 17, 2015 Author #114 Posted January 17, 2015 Thank you Keith and for all the likes. I started out trying to use these blanks, but ended up making my own. I wrapped with blue tape to get the exact circumference, layed tape out an divided into desired amount of teeth. I transferred marks to wood circles(2 clamped together), then useing my thinnest cutting wheel I got busy. I had drawn lines for depth of teeth and cut straight line across, then angled cutting wheel to cut from top of one line to the base of the next one, around. I just had to do it really slow, had three other sets thrown in the scrap pile before I got a set I could live with. I just had to do small cuts around and around, nipping away to attempt evenly spaced teeth. Matt GuntherMT, GLakie, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
mattsayers148 Posted January 17, 2015 Author #115 Posted January 17, 2015 Sorry everyone, I forgot to include pics of windlass in place. GLakie, CaptainSteve, jburchfield1@wowway.com and 5 others 8 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
GLakie Posted January 17, 2015 #116 Posted January 17, 2015 Your windlass is a work of art Matt! Nice! Cheers CaptainSteve and mattsayers148 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
mattsayers148 Posted January 17, 2015 Author #117 Posted January 17, 2015 Thank you George, and for everyone for the likes, Did I read that you have a build in waiting? Matt GLakie 1 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
GLakie Posted January 17, 2015 #118 Posted January 17, 2015 Hi Matt: You sure did. The MS Constitution as soon as I finish turning this apartment in a workshop of sorts. It's taking a little longer than I wanted, but in order to get everything stowed in a hurry when there's an upcoming building inspection, I needed to build my shop accordingly. Including a cabinet that looks like a cabinet, but breaks down to a rolling tool-stand for my band saw, drill press, and router table. Already have a design, just need to pick up the materials next month. Sometime in August or September I'm guessing for my build. Thanks for asking. Cheers CaptainSteve 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted January 17, 2015 #119 Posted January 17, 2015 Your windlass looks outstanding. Good craftsmanship! mario GLakie, mattsayers148 and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
mattsayers148 Posted January 17, 2015 Author #120 Posted January 17, 2015 Thank you Mario, it means a lot coming from a master craftsman like your self. Matt GLakie 1 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)
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