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Has anyone ever considered using wood veneers for planking.  I would think it would work over solid hulls or as the second planking of a double planked hull.

 

Looks like thin sheets can be purchase relatively cheaply and then cut into strips with band saw or maybe even a razor knife.

 

Then again, I am a newbee so this may not be the best idea in the model shipworld.

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Hi Here's a photo of my Model Shipways Gunboat Philadelphia 1/24 scale that I planked using 1/32 Red Oak veneer glued onto 1/32 basswood for all of the decking and hull planking. I  first splied the plank shape in the 1/32 basswood.

Then after getting the shape for the plank needed,I roughed up the mating sides of the basswood and oak veneer (the red oak veneer that I was using had a cloth backing to it,so I scratched cross hatch patterns with a xacto knife blade point,so that the Titebond would have something to hold onto. I tried to glue the veneer without this"roughing" but it would just not hold onto the basswood).

I then glued them together with the TiteBond and clamped the glued plank to a straight steel surface,so that the ply will dry flat. Both woods curl when you put the Titebond on one side only. Then after an hour I would unclamp the "ply" ,trim off the 1/16" larger Oak veneer to the basswood plank shape and then glue it onto the bulkheads.

When you cut out the red oak veneer to glue onto the splied basswood plank,make the oak cutout about 1/16 to 1/8" larger than the basswood plank. After gluing them together,go around the mating edges and make sure that you have a fillet of titebond around the smaller edges of the basswood. If you do not,there might be gaps in the glued edges of the "ply" after you trim the oak veneer down to the shape of the basswood.

 

Like said above,you have no room for sanding down a hump that is not the shape of what you want,but getting the type of wood and grain that looks better than what is normaly used for planking makes the effort well rewarded.

 

I won 1st Place in our Regional IPMS show this September with this model. I bought my Red Oak veneer from my local WoodCrafters staore. The sheet was 3' X 4" and cost me a grand total of $45.00.

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Hi,

You can use thin strips of wood veneer for planking of your models (providing that the scale of the model is appropriate). This is done constantly on the Polish website Koga. They use it for double planking or plank over the solid hull, though.

Band saw would be way too big and aggresive, even with the smallest blade, and you would ruin your veneer that way.

I have never planked anything with veneers, but people there tell that they first would wet the veneer sheet and cut it with sharp scissors, scalpel or paper guillotine (like that one used for photographs and/or printer paper), easier done when the sheet is wet than dry. In order to further spill such rectangular planks, you can subsequently shape them into more elliptical pieces with a scalpel/exacto knife, cutting super carefully WITH grain and not against it.

Difficult, but supposedly can be done...

Where in LA you live? I live in Glendale. Perhaps we could meet some time to talk about such things...

Just a suggestion...  :-)

Thomas

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Hi

I suggested doing this some time ago using iron on veneer tape that you use to edge worktops but it was generally considered to be a bad idea

 

So I have done it on my Vaasa

It seems to work quite well you have the instant stick of CA but none of the fumes which I only need a sniff to make me ill for the next 2-3 days

I made a simple jig to cut to length and then to width all done with a knife no mess dust or noise

 

I am not sure of the long term results but so far it seems to work I will agree though the base has to be flat you only hame 0.6 mm to sand !

Andy

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It is hard to get many - even slightly - unusual woods in the UK in the sizes we need but I found a couple of sites that do veneers for marquetry and cabinet makers with a range of products in many woods usually 0.7mm think . Some supply strips (which they refer to as banding ) in suitable widths so if you are lucky you wont even have to cut sheets.  I have emailed a couple and will let you know what they reply.

 

i am constantly surprised though how hard it is to find wood - perhaps we should start a co-operative and buy and cut apple,pear, holly, box, maple etc ect

with "local depots" in each continent to cut down shipping.

 

I think also part of the problem is a practical difference - US and Oz members seem to be able to find the space ( and cash) for much more machinery to cut their own materials than most of us. 

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Hi Don,

I use rotation carpet cutter to cut veneer strips suitable for for hull planking.

After cut it edges of strips they are sanded.

This way was made second clinker planking for norman's ship as also carvel planking for Peter von Danzig.

 

Tadeusz

 

My models:

From kits

Vasa, HMS Victory, Le Solei Royale, Friesland

From scratch

HMS Warrior 1860, Esplanade, Grosse Yacht

Norman’s ship, HMS Speedy, La Royale

Peter von Danzig

Polacca XVII cent.

Current project:

SS Savannah 1818

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Thanks for the UK comments - I am very reluctant to buy wood from Ebay  - I need a bit of a reputation history !

 

Twigfolly never quite seem to have what I wanted in the past but they do seem to have wider range now, Workshopheaven dont seem to do strip and I dont want to start cutting my own but indeed Original Marquetry is where I am hoping for good results from awaiting a price at this moment !

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I use veneer all the time. It's incredible inexpensive on eBay. I have a dozen or more "end band" roles; just cut it to shape with a pair of sizzers and glue with regular PVA wood glue (not to much). It comes in various widths, everything from Alder to Ebony; less than $10.00 a roll.

Mock up your build with any wood; cut the veneer to the size for your scale and apply proud of what is needed. Then cut off with razor saw or sharp knife.

Hope this helps.

Larry
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I bought a sample pack of veneer from Woodcraft (in store),  over 20 assorted domestic and exotic species, altogether 20 sq.ft. Each sheet 12" long  various width 5.5" to 7.5". Price USD 31.50.

The sample pack will be part of a wood reference binder.

The best with the sample, I can definitely tell what wood is useful (fine grain) and not.

Thickness is 0.5mm

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