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Just wanted to post a quick update. I am still plugging away on the hull planking. It is very slow going because I want to make sure that the planks are fitted right. What I have been doing is soaking the planks in water and clamping them to the hull to dry. Once they are dry, I then start the process of gluing them in place. I will post some pictures once the hull planking is completed. Please bear with me as this is a slow going process for me.- 50 replies
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Time for my weekly update. I have spent the week fitting and installing the half and cant frames on the stern and bow. As you can see in the pictures, there is a lot of fairing that is going to have to be done. But first I plan to shape and fit the transoms and the hawse timbers. I also plan on installing some filler pieces to help sturdy up the hull for fairing. Even though she is going to need quite a bit of fairing, I can already see her lines. Anyways, here are the pictures of how she sits now. As always, any and all comments are welcome.
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Dan, nice work on the stern. As I was reading it, I thought of a technique that RC car model era use to make car bodies for their RCs out of plexiglass. The build a mold and a box with holes in the top that has a vacuum port in it. Then the plastic is heated to the point that it is soft and place on top of the mold. Then a shop is used to pull the plastic over the mold. I have seen some YouTube videos on it and it looks fairly simply. I'll try to find a link to and post it for you if like. Just a thought that hat might be handy in future builds
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Mike, you are quite right, the fairing process will take a while. But I would rather have to use a ton of sandpaper rather than end up sanding the timbers to the point that they are too thin and have to be replaced. I also spend at least a couple of hours a day on her or the MS Confederacy kit or the MS longboat kit. Building these ships/boats keeps me sane; although retiring from the Air Force next year will help my sanity as well.
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Brig Eagle by robnbill - 1:48
KennyH78 replied to robnbill's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1801 - 1850
Just found and read through your log. All I can say is WOW! That is some amazing work and a beautiful model. Can't wait to see her completed. -
Thanks for all the likes. Greg, I am going to build a cradle to display the model. And now for the update. All of the square frames are installed. She is starting to look like a ship. This week I will work on cutting out all of the half frames and cant and hawse timbers. I also need to figure out the best way to make the transom timbers as well. Anyways, here are the pictures.
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Another small update, but a huge milestone for me. The keel is finally laid, well sort of. It is actually mounted to the frames and hanging high in the clouds. I have also begun to add the rest of the frames; but that will be a slow process. I suspect that I will get about 3 frames installed in a day after work. The reason it takes so long is because the fore and aft faces of each frame need to be sanded smooth prior to installing them on the jig and keel. I have also cut the pieces for the new blank for frame 2 and those are glued together and drying. Tomorrow I will glue another template to it and cut it our on the scroll saw and rough shape it and then install it on the keel.
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So for the last 3-4 days I have been making the saw fly. All of the square frames are now shaped to within 1/16" (give or take a little) of their final shape. I used a combination of the scroll saw, disc sander and a mini drum sander chucked into my bench top drill press to get them to this point. I have also installed frames 3, 25, and 47 into the frame jig. Once the glue is dry on those three frames, I will add the keel assymbly to it and start installing the rest of the square frames. The half and cant frames will be cut out and installed once the square frames are all installed. I also need to redo frame 2 since I totally missed that the bottom of the frame is not whole. The pictures can explain it better than I can. So without further ado, here are the pictures as she sits now. As always, any and all comments are welcome.
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Dan, thanks for the tips. I have already shaped the stem and deadwood. I do plan to check the rabbet and deadwood to ensure that the planking will sit nice and flush. Thanks to to everyone else for the likes
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Before cutting any of the frames, I decided to make the backbone. It is now complete, I was terrified when it was time to cut the rabbet, but a V-gauge chisel made it easy. It's not perfect, but I'm happy with it. So without further ado, here are the pictures. Tomorrow I start cutting frames and I'm hoping I don't screw any of them up, but I am expecting to have to remake at least a few of them.
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I have a short progress report, planking of the hull has started. I am taking my time with this and will post pics once the hull is planked. I currently have 1 and 1/2 planks installed on the port and starboard sides.
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All of the templates are glued to the blanks. I used rubber cement, I figure if it worked for Hahn, then it should work for me. I don't think that any of the paper templates stretched, but I plan to check the frames against the plans once they are cut. I also built me a jig to ensure that all of the frames are cut to the same height. I plan to start cutting the frames in the next day or two (work and life depending). I have also started to remove all of the laser char on the pieces for the keel. Pics of the keel will be posted once that is all cleaned up and glued together. So without further ado, here are a couple of pics of the jig and the current state of the frames.
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Mark, Since I am very paranoid of screwing something up and not having the plans intact to fix it, I went and had a full set of the plans copied and then I am copying the parts that I need for the frames and such from those on my printer/copier at home. I'm pretty sure that I will have to redo a lot of things before the Raleigh will be completed.
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Made some progress, all of the cram blanks are glued up. Tonight I will start transferring the patterns of the grams to the blanks. I plan to cut them out and glue them to blank with rubber cement. Then it will be time to make the blanks rounded on the bottom and squaring them up for height in a keel/frame height jig. Before long, I just may be able to start laying the keel and building the hull.
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I have some progress to report. I got the hull faired, but not without breaking one bulkhead. The repair was easy though, it was a clean break and easily glued back on. I even have trouble finding the one that broke off. I also got the transom piece installed and the bow fillers. Those will be faired once the glue has had ample time to cure. Anyways, here are the pictures. As always, any and all comments are welcome.
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Even in today's Air Force, hearing loss is prevalent. Most of us wear hearing protection, but that only helps so much when you are working around jet engines running all the time on the flight line
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I will be pulling up a chair as well. I have the same kit, but am waiting for new bulkhead former since the one in my kit was warped
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I pretty much came to that conclusion. The instructions don't mention anything about stiffeners, but I felt that they needed to be added.
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Well, I have a little progress to report. After letting the glue dry on the bulkheads for a couple of days, I went to fair the hull. I started sanding with 220 grit very lightly, but the basswood keel was letting the individual bulkheads move. So in an attempt to stiffen it up, I grabbed some scrap basswood and glued them to the top of the bulkheads on the portion that will be cut away later. I think that that will stiffen it up a lot and then I will be able to fair the hull properly. Going to let that dry up and get to fairing the hull tomorrow.
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Mike, Greg, thanks for the tips. I actually did plan on making the jig you described. Hahn talked about the same jig in his article on the build of the Raleigh in the NRJ. I also planned on purchasing a disc sander along with a micro table saw and thickness sander. Although I wish I could afford the Byrnes models, but unfortunately I can't (don't get paid all that much in the Air Force and we are a single income family of 5). But I am receiving my last re-enlistment bonus next week and will be spending part of that at Micro Mark for those three tools plus accessories; the rest is going to the kids. Maybe someday I will be able to afford the Cadillac of mini power tools. As for an oscillating spindle sander, I will be using my bench top drill press for that. Anyways, back to gluing up blanks.
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Mark, I have been quietly following your Licorne build and learning a lot, what a marvelous build it is. I plan to leave it in the board for as long as possible. So I haven't cut a single frame from the blanks yet and had to do my first re-do. The first 18 blanks that I glued up with the clamps had gaps in them. So back to the table saw I went to cut more pieces. I also ran out to the dollar store and bought a few $2 5x7 frames for the glass. I am now using them with some weights to glue up the blanks. Still hoping to be able to start cutting frames by the end of this weekend. The other decision that I am wrestling with is weather to fully plank the hull or build it as Hahn. I asked the Admiral what her preference is and she hasn't really answered me. Going to have to ask again in the morning; or just make the decision myself.
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Chuck, I wrestled with which forum to post my log in for a day or so; but the way I see it is that the timbering minus the laser cut keel is just strips of wood than a couple of blocks for carving the decorations. That is no different than ordering milled strips from somewhere else in my opinion
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Thanks for all the comments and likes. Mike, the timbering did not come with pre cut blanks. I cut those on the table saw with a jig that I made out of plywood using the method that Hahn used. The timbering came with cherry strips that were about 2' X1" x 1/8". I will definitely look into the glass plates for laminating though, thanks for the tip. Mark, one of the reasons I chose the Raleigh is because I wanted to build one that was not heavily modeled. I have searched and could not find a single build log for her. I just hope that I can build a good model. Having Hahn's article from the NRJ in vol 41 sure helps though. Her history was another reason I picked it. She was the first frigate of the 13 that the Continental Congress ordered to be floated, but sat in dock for over a year because they could not procure cannons for her. Her sister ship, the Hancock, was captured by the British within 2 weeks of setting sail. Raleigh actually sailed to France with Alfred to procure properly sized cannons. She set sail with a set of cannons that were not of the right size and number on her maiden voyage.
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I had originally decided to build my Confederacy kit from Model Shipways before building the Raleigh, but once I opened the box and put the bulkhead former together I noticed that it was warped. Emailed Model Expo and have a new one on the way. Since that build is on hold and the fact that I want to build and not wait; I've decided to start my US Frigate Raleigh build from the Hahn plans that I have. The plans and timbering came from the Lumberyard. The ship will be in 1:96 scale. The timbering is cherry for the frames, keel and stem and holly for the decking. The timbering did come with some laser cut parts for the stem, stern and keel. Guess I'm kinda cheating, lol. I really hope that I am up for the challenge of a Hahn style build. So far, I have cut the 1/8 cherry strips into the pieces to make the frame blanks and have started gluing the frame blanks for the cant and half frames. There are 33 of those and 78 full frames. I suspect that it will take roughly about a week to finish gluing up all of the blanks. Anyways, on to the pics. As always, any and all comments are welcome. All the pieces for the half and cant frames, 34 each. The pieces for the center full frames, 33 each. The pieces for the rest of the full frames, 12 each. Some of the half and cant frame blanks glued up and drying.
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Glad to have you all along for the ride. I got the bulkheads glued on. Took my time to ensure that they are as straight and correct as they should be. Going to let that dry up for till at least tomorrow, may even wait until Tuesday before I start the fairing process just to ensure that the wood glue has enough time to cure up. Anyways, here are the pictures of how she currently sits.
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