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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-Eight
    Feeling somewhat miffed about the failure with the Launch I am moving onto one of the 24’ Cutters, if for no other reason than ‘getting back on the horse’ 
    I have made 18’ Cutters previously, along with Yawls, and a 24’ Cutter should at least on paper be less fiddly.

    4245
    Before I had barely got started the tab broke off the transom piece, and once again the stern post broke part way up. This is before I even get to the delicate stem with its planking slot.
     
    I am beginning to think that use of 0.8mm Pear is just too thin for the structurally important keel part.
     
    It is pertinent that the grain on these parts is horizontal whereas any pressure tends to be lateral. It seems that any pressure, however light,  gives a high risk of breaking these parts.

    4243
    At least with the 24’ cutter there are two sets provided, and in my case one was cannibalised to get to the keel and frames assembled.

    4248
    With the fairing completed this is the same point at which things went wrong with the Launch. 
    I added further support to the stem before I began planking, and this time I resolved to use pva on the plank edges in addition to ca on the frames.

    4252
    The first four planks fit into the stem rabbet, or slot, happily without mishap this time. At this point the structure is much stronger, and damage risk to the stem much reduced.

    4254
    The garboard planks are fitted using 3mm strips.

    4256
    There is too little room to follow any sort of tick marking for plank shaping, so its basically done by eye. The aim is to get any less than realistic planking strakes below the round of the hull, out of sight.

    4258
    I achieve this by spiling the last plank.
     
    Unlike the Pinnace, removal of the central bulkheads did not result in disassembly of the planking, no doubt due to adding pva along the strake joints.

    4259
    There is no access to clean inside glue stains during construction so there is inevitably marring present once the bulkheads are removed.

    4260
    A gentle approach is necessary, I clean the insides initially by damping the excess glue with a small paint brush and gently scraping with a micro chisel.
     
    Water is used for the pva and acetone for the ca. very small amounts are used to avoid affecting the main construction.

    A little more fettlin’ and I can move onto the next stage.
     
     
    B.E.
    11/04/2024

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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service  locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where  repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO  adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
     
    For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.

    9898(2)

    9899(2)
     
    I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
     
     
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from yvesvidal in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service  locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where  repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO  adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
     
    For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.

    9898(2)

    9899(2)
     
    I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
     
     
  4. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from dunnock in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service  locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where  repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO  adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
     
    For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.

    9898(2)

    9899(2)
     
    I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
     
     
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from shipman in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service  locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where  repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO  adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
     
    For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.

    9898(2)

    9899(2)
     
    I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
     
     
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Clark in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-Eight
    Feeling somewhat miffed about the failure with the Launch I am moving onto one of the 24’ Cutters, if for no other reason than ‘getting back on the horse’ 
    I have made 18’ Cutters previously, along with Yawls, and a 24’ Cutter should at least on paper be less fiddly.

    4245
    Before I had barely got started the tab broke off the transom piece, and once again the stern post broke part way up. This is before I even get to the delicate stem with its planking slot.
     
    I am beginning to think that use of 0.8mm Pear is just too thin for the structurally important keel part.
     
    It is pertinent that the grain on these parts is horizontal whereas any pressure tends to be lateral. It seems that any pressure, however light,  gives a high risk of breaking these parts.

    4243
    At least with the 24’ cutter there are two sets provided, and in my case one was cannibalised to get to the keel and frames assembled.

    4248
    With the fairing completed this is the same point at which things went wrong with the Launch. 
    I added further support to the stem before I began planking, and this time I resolved to use pva on the plank edges in addition to ca on the frames.

    4252
    The first four planks fit into the stem rabbet, or slot, happily without mishap this time. At this point the structure is much stronger, and damage risk to the stem much reduced.

    4254
    The garboard planks are fitted using 3mm strips.

    4256
    There is too little room to follow any sort of tick marking for plank shaping, so its basically done by eye. The aim is to get any less than realistic planking strakes below the round of the hull, out of sight.

    4258
    I achieve this by spiling the last plank.
     
    Unlike the Pinnace, removal of the central bulkheads did not result in disassembly of the planking, no doubt due to adding pva along the strake joints.

    4259
    There is no access to clean inside glue stains during construction so there is inevitably marring present once the bulkheads are removed.

    4260
    A gentle approach is necessary, I clean the insides initially by damping the excess glue with a small paint brush and gently scraping with a micro chisel.
     
    Water is used for the pva and acetone for the ca. very small amounts are used to avoid affecting the main construction.

    A little more fettlin’ and I can move onto the next stage.
     
     
    B.E.
    11/04/2024

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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service  locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where  repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO  adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
     
    For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.

    9898(2)

    9899(2)
     
    I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
     
     
  8. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from JpR62 in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service  locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where  repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO  adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
     
    For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.

    9898(2)

    9899(2)
     
    I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
     
     
  9. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Knocklouder in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service  locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where  repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO  adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
     
    For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.

    9898(2)

    9899(2)
     
    I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
     
     
  10. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-Eight
    Feeling somewhat miffed about the failure with the Launch I am moving onto one of the 24’ Cutters, if for no other reason than ‘getting back on the horse’ 
    I have made 18’ Cutters previously, along with Yawls, and a 24’ Cutter should at least on paper be less fiddly.

    4245
    Before I had barely got started the tab broke off the transom piece, and once again the stern post broke part way up. This is before I even get to the delicate stem with its planking slot.
     
    I am beginning to think that use of 0.8mm Pear is just too thin for the structurally important keel part.
     
    It is pertinent that the grain on these parts is horizontal whereas any pressure tends to be lateral. It seems that any pressure, however light,  gives a high risk of breaking these parts.

    4243
    At least with the 24’ cutter there are two sets provided, and in my case one was cannibalised to get to the keel and frames assembled.

    4248
    With the fairing completed this is the same point at which things went wrong with the Launch. 
    I added further support to the stem before I began planking, and this time I resolved to use pva on the plank edges in addition to ca on the frames.

    4252
    The first four planks fit into the stem rabbet, or slot, happily without mishap this time. At this point the structure is much stronger, and damage risk to the stem much reduced.

    4254
    The garboard planks are fitted using 3mm strips.

    4256
    There is too little room to follow any sort of tick marking for plank shaping, so its basically done by eye. The aim is to get any less than realistic planking strakes below the round of the hull, out of sight.

    4258
    I achieve this by spiling the last plank.
     
    Unlike the Pinnace, removal of the central bulkheads did not result in disassembly of the planking, no doubt due to adding pva along the strake joints.

    4259
    There is no access to clean inside glue stains during construction so there is inevitably marring present once the bulkheads are removed.

    4260
    A gentle approach is necessary, I clean the insides initially by damping the excess glue with a small paint brush and gently scraping with a micro chisel.
     
    Water is used for the pva and acetone for the ca. very small amounts are used to avoid affecting the main construction.

    A little more fettlin’ and I can move onto the next stage.
     
     
    B.E.
    11/04/2024

  11. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from JpR62 in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-Eight
    Feeling somewhat miffed about the failure with the Launch I am moving onto one of the 24’ Cutters, if for no other reason than ‘getting back on the horse’ 
    I have made 18’ Cutters previously, along with Yawls, and a 24’ Cutter should at least on paper be less fiddly.

    4245
    Before I had barely got started the tab broke off the transom piece, and once again the stern post broke part way up. This is before I even get to the delicate stem with its planking slot.
     
    I am beginning to think that use of 0.8mm Pear is just too thin for the structurally important keel part.
     
    It is pertinent that the grain on these parts is horizontal whereas any pressure tends to be lateral. It seems that any pressure, however light,  gives a high risk of breaking these parts.

    4243
    At least with the 24’ cutter there are two sets provided, and in my case one was cannibalised to get to the keel and frames assembled.

    4248
    With the fairing completed this is the same point at which things went wrong with the Launch. 
    I added further support to the stem before I began planking, and this time I resolved to use pva on the plank edges in addition to ca on the frames.

    4252
    The first four planks fit into the stem rabbet, or slot, happily without mishap this time. At this point the structure is much stronger, and damage risk to the stem much reduced.

    4254
    The garboard planks are fitted using 3mm strips.

    4256
    There is too little room to follow any sort of tick marking for plank shaping, so its basically done by eye. The aim is to get any less than realistic planking strakes below the round of the hull, out of sight.

    4258
    I achieve this by spiling the last plank.
     
    Unlike the Pinnace, removal of the central bulkheads did not result in disassembly of the planking, no doubt due to adding pva along the strake joints.

    4259
    There is no access to clean inside glue stains during construction so there is inevitably marring present once the bulkheads are removed.

    4260
    A gentle approach is necessary, I clean the insides initially by damping the excess glue with a small paint brush and gently scraping with a micro chisel.
     
    Water is used for the pva and acetone for the ca. very small amounts are used to avoid affecting the main construction.

    A little more fettlin’ and I can move onto the next stage.
     
     
    B.E.
    11/04/2024

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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Thukydides in HMS Pegasus by Barbossa - Amati/Victory Models - 1/64   
    I like the muted tones, and a good decision to dispense with any bling.
    I also very much liked your Diana which I can see in the background.
     
    Cheers,
     
    B.E.
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Mr Whippy in HMS Pegasus by Barbossa - Amati/Victory Models - 1/64   
    She looks good Christian, and deserves to be finished.
     
    Regards,
     
    B.E.
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794   
    Magnificent work Jason, that is truly impressive.
     
    B.E.
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    ....... or not as the case may be, we will see.
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Thank you Mark, and Ron,
     
    It still rankles Ron,  moving onto the 24' Cutter, we'll see how well I can mangle that one.🫤
     
    B.E.
  17. Thanks!
    Blue Ensign reacted to dunnock in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Absolutely stunning BE. Your models and detailed logs are always an inspiration
     
    David
  18. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Mr Whippy in My Process for Planking   
    Nicely explained Glenn, and your planking job on Vanguard is the proof of your method.
     
    B.E.
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from SighingDutchman in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-six
    My version of Indy is effectively completed now and with some serious moving about of models within my workroom/office, I have found room to house Indy in the prominent position she deserves, and without encroaching on other areas of the house.
    4223
    She has displaced Norske Love which now has a new position vacated by Alert which also has a new location.

    e2008a
    Had I completed the masting on Indy it would be in the order of that of Norske Love which is of a slightly smaller scale of 1:70.

    e2012a
    Norske Love has received a well overdue clean, having endured all the dust created during the construction of ‘Indy’.

    4022
    Not quite ready for the glass cover to be on yet, but at least the issue of ‘where are you going to put that’ is now resolved.
    As a bonus the lower profile of Indy compared to Norske love will allow me to re-arrange the wall Pictures and perhaps get one of Indy.
     
    I have decided to have a further dabble with the boats, and have started assembly of the 26’ Launch, pity not to make them up as they are provided with the kit.
     
    B.E.
    06/04/2024
     
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    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Martes in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-five
    Thank you, Allan, the kit didn’t include any standards to support the transom, but I note that Alex M has included five in his drawings of the Anson following conversion to a Razee. He also includes an extended central standard to support an Ensign staff tabernacle.
     
    I did think about following his example but decided that the double arrangement looked more aesthetically pleasing to my eye.
    I think the inclusion of such an item is a reasonable assumption to make, and the set up on the Indy kit almost begged the inclusion of the arrangement as I have modelled it.

    4206

    4207
    4217

    4211

    4212
    4205
     
    Onwards,
     
    B.E.
    04/04/2024
     
  21. Thanks!
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Beef Wellington in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794   
    Magnificent work Jason, that is truly impressive.
     
    B.E.
  22. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794   
    A great result Jason, very nicely worked out, you have  reproduced that elegant shape perfectly.
     
    B.E.
  23. Like
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from Martes in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-six
    My version of Indy is effectively completed now and with some serious moving about of models within my workroom/office, I have found room to house Indy in the prominent position she deserves, and without encroaching on other areas of the house.
    4223
    She has displaced Norske Love which now has a new position vacated by Alert which also has a new location.

    e2008a
    Had I completed the masting on Indy it would be in the order of that of Norske Love which is of a slightly smaller scale of 1:70.

    e2012a
    Norske Love has received a well overdue clean, having endured all the dust created during the construction of ‘Indy’.

    4022
    Not quite ready for the glass cover to be on yet, but at least the issue of ‘where are you going to put that’ is now resolved.
    As a bonus the lower profile of Indy compared to Norske love will allow me to re-arrange the wall Pictures and perhaps get one of Indy.
     
    I have decided to have a further dabble with the boats, and have started assembly of the 26’ Launch, pity not to make them up as they are provided with the kit.
     
    B.E.
    06/04/2024
     
  24. Thanks!
    Blue Ensign reacted to KurtH in USS Constitution by KurtH - FINISHED - BlueJacket Shipcrafters - 1/96 - First wood model kit   
    I have only just now checked on my build log and found some new and most rewarding comments!
    Thank you Dom Fischli for your kind words.  I have found that debonder does a good job of diluting the CA although I have not tried it in quite the same situation that you describe.
     
    Thank you Blue Ensign for your compliments.  I have spent a great deal of time looking at your builds and have the greatest admiration for your work as do many other modelers.  Your comments mean a great deal to me!  Incidentally, I plan to add lodging knees to the quarter deck scantlings in much the same way that you did.  I can only aspire to do as well.
  25. Thanks!
    Blue Ensign got a reaction from KurtH in USS Constitution by KurtH - FINISHED - BlueJacket Shipcrafters - 1/96 - First wood model kit   
    I am impressed by your build Kurt, more so by  the difficulties of creating a 1:96 scale build out of a solid hull. That it is your first venture into wooden ship modelling make it even more so.
    You have produced a fine model of which you should be  justly proud.
     
    Well done.👏
     
    B.E.
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