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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Nipper in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Don't know about you Chris but I struggle to relate that painting of Harpy to the Adm Plans. but that doesn't negate the use of stern davits on Brigs of the period.
There seems to be a lot of freeboard above the Gunports on that painting.
I like the look of your Harpy much better.
Cheers,
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from rcweir in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 48
Adding the Capping rails
Following on from Post 47 I am adding the Capping rails, but there a few preliminaries to attend to.
The spirketting and top rails have been fitted and painted.
The Gunwale tops have been levelled and sanded smooth.
0627
The Bowsprit opening at the Bows has been fettled and a Bowsprit section along with the stop have been temporarily put into place.
0637
The short forward sections of Capping rail are then glued into place.
I next assemble the Catheads and use them to mark the distance for the placing of the long section of capping. I am not fitting them at this point.
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At the stern I have levelled off that area of the deck cabin structures to allow fair run of the capping rail to meet the transom.
I notched the transom to allow free passage of the rail, it splintered a little but that is of no consequence as the outer transom pieces fit over.
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Easier without the boarding in place to line up the capping at the stern.
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I didn’t think it necessary to paint the rail prior to installation but I did run the edge of a chisel tipped waterproof marker along the inside edge.
Movin’ on…
B.E.
04/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Rustyj in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 51
The Rudder
This is a nicely made Pearwood item with outer veneers, also of Pear, marked with the appropriate engravings for those who don’t intend to copper the hull.
With the Copper plate set comes a rudder specific section of plates. These can be added as a unit rather than individual plates and are designed to fit the rudder profile. A separate strip fits to the aft rudder face.
For this kit Chris has supplied laser board versions of the straps and pintles, a far better option than pe for this purpose.
The pintles on the rudder are an integral part of the rudder formed in Pearwood. The Gudgeons are also part of the rudder structure represented by pegs that fit into slots on the Sternpost.
If the rudder is to be attached in ‘working’ mode attaching the Gudgeons to the sternpost would be necessary.
Altho’ I’ve had working rudders on many of my builds, using Chuck’s Syren parts, I’m going with the kit arrangement on Harpy, with a few tweaks.
0712
A small modification I made to the rudder was to file a bearding line down the inner edges of the rudder which for practical purposes allow better movement and gives a more authentic look.
Strictly the copper plates should be folded inwards on the inners side, and folded over by about a scale mm on the outboard side.
0711
The provided set is too short to fully do this, but sufficient to follow and cover the bearding.
0715
For the rudder head straps rather than fiddle around with thin pieces of Laser board card I used heat shrink tubing.
Hanging the Rudder.
The rudder fits perfectly into the designated slots, nice and close to the stern post.
0718
The fit is so good I didn’t find it necessary to glue it into place
The straps to the Gudgeons can now be fitted to the hull.
0721
Where fitted over the copper plates I have painted the straps a Copper/Bronze colour to represent the cuprous alloy from which they were cast.
The bolt heads, barely noticed, are represented by spots of thick paint mix applied with the point of a wooden cocktail stick.
The kit set-up for rudder hanging no doubt makes what can be a tricky exercise a simple operation, but there is a cost in authenticity.
Photo from Build manual.
It caught my eye that there is an obvious disconnect between the gudgeon straps on the sternpost which end short of the gudgeon and the pintles that fit into them.
0717
Adm plan detail.
The difference can be seen here, the Gudgeons stand proud of the sternpost and the Pintle cut-outs in the rudder allow the pintle to engage with the hole in the Gudgeon.
Once you see it the eye is drawn to it.
0729
The look can be enhanced to an extent by turning the Gudgeon straps around the sternpost, and using a spot of paint just below the Pintle straps in-line with the Pintles.
Still a couple of things to finish, the Spectacle plate in particular, which should fit just below the Hance.
B.E.
09/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from PaddyO in HMS Ariadne 1776 (based on HMS Sphinx) by wvdhee – Vanguard Models – 1:64 - after 1793 refit as 24 gun 6th rate
Hi Walter,
For what it's worth, with Indefatigable I created a paper version on Word. I didn't like the colour of the decal provided with the kit.
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I used a black coloured base which suited the counter, selected a font I liked, tweaked for size and curvature, and cut out to fit the full counter exactly.
I printed out on quality paper, and sprayed with Artists Fixative before cutting out. I used the counter template to provide the print boundary.
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You can't really see the the join and paper decoration was the go to on historical models, and still today if you refer to Chuck's wonderful Syren kits.
Hope this helps.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 51
The Rudder
This is a nicely made Pearwood item with outer veneers, also of Pear, marked with the appropriate engravings for those who don’t intend to copper the hull.
With the Copper plate set comes a rudder specific section of plates. These can be added as a unit rather than individual plates and are designed to fit the rudder profile. A separate strip fits to the aft rudder face.
For this kit Chris has supplied laser board versions of the straps and pintles, a far better option than pe for this purpose.
The pintles on the rudder are an integral part of the rudder formed in Pearwood. The Gudgeons are also part of the rudder structure represented by pegs that fit into slots on the Sternpost.
If the rudder is to be attached in ‘working’ mode attaching the Gudgeons to the sternpost would be necessary.
Altho’ I’ve had working rudders on many of my builds, using Chuck’s Syren parts, I’m going with the kit arrangement on Harpy, with a few tweaks.
0712
A small modification I made to the rudder was to file a bearding line down the inner edges of the rudder which for practical purposes allow better movement and gives a more authentic look.
Strictly the copper plates should be folded inwards on the inners side, and folded over by about a scale mm on the outboard side.
0711
The provided set is too short to fully do this, but sufficient to follow and cover the bearding.
0715
For the rudder head straps rather than fiddle around with thin pieces of Laser board card I used heat shrink tubing.
Hanging the Rudder.
The rudder fits perfectly into the designated slots, nice and close to the stern post.
0718
The fit is so good I didn’t find it necessary to glue it into place
The straps to the Gudgeons can now be fitted to the hull.
0721
Where fitted over the copper plates I have painted the straps a Copper/Bronze colour to represent the cuprous alloy from which they were cast.
The bolt heads, barely noticed, are represented by spots of thick paint mix applied with the point of a wooden cocktail stick.
The kit set-up for rudder hanging no doubt makes what can be a tricky exercise a simple operation, but there is a cost in authenticity.
Photo from Build manual.
It caught my eye that there is an obvious disconnect between the gudgeon straps on the sternpost which end short of the gudgeon and the pintles that fit into them.
0717
Adm plan detail.
The difference can be seen here, the Gudgeons stand proud of the sternpost and the Pintle cut-outs in the rudder allow the pintle to engage with the hole in the Gudgeon.
Once you see it the eye is drawn to it.
0729
The look can be enhanced to an extent by turning the Gudgeon straps around the sternpost, and using a spot of paint just below the Pintle straps in-line with the Pintles.
Still a couple of things to finish, the Spectacle plate in particular, which should fit just below the Hance.
B.E.
09/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 51
The Rudder
This is a nicely made Pearwood item with outer veneers, also of Pear, marked with the appropriate engravings for those who don’t intend to copper the hull.
With the Copper plate set comes a rudder specific section of plates. These can be added as a unit rather than individual plates and are designed to fit the rudder profile. A separate strip fits to the aft rudder face.
For this kit Chris has supplied laser board versions of the straps and pintles, a far better option than pe for this purpose.
The pintles on the rudder are an integral part of the rudder formed in Pearwood. The Gudgeons are also part of the rudder structure represented by pegs that fit into slots on the Sternpost.
If the rudder is to be attached in ‘working’ mode attaching the Gudgeons to the sternpost would be necessary.
Altho’ I’ve had working rudders on many of my builds, using Chuck’s Syren parts, I’m going with the kit arrangement on Harpy, with a few tweaks.
0712
A small modification I made to the rudder was to file a bearding line down the inner edges of the rudder which for practical purposes allow better movement and gives a more authentic look.
Strictly the copper plates should be folded inwards on the inners side, and folded over by about a scale mm on the outboard side.
0711
The provided set is too short to fully do this, but sufficient to follow and cover the bearding.
0715
For the rudder head straps rather than fiddle around with thin pieces of Laser board card I used heat shrink tubing.
Hanging the Rudder.
The rudder fits perfectly into the designated slots, nice and close to the stern post.
0718
The fit is so good I didn’t find it necessary to glue it into place
The straps to the Gudgeons can now be fitted to the hull.
0721
Where fitted over the copper plates I have painted the straps a Copper/Bronze colour to represent the cuprous alloy from which they were cast.
The bolt heads, barely noticed, are represented by spots of thick paint mix applied with the point of a wooden cocktail stick.
The kit set-up for rudder hanging no doubt makes what can be a tricky exercise a simple operation, but there is a cost in authenticity.
Photo from Build manual.
It caught my eye that there is an obvious disconnect between the gudgeon straps on the sternpost which end short of the gudgeon and the pintles that fit into them.
0717
Adm plan detail.
The difference can be seen here, the Gudgeons stand proud of the sternpost and the Pintle cut-outs in the rudder allow the pintle to engage with the hole in the Gudgeon.
Once you see it the eye is drawn to it.
0729
The look can be enhanced to an extent by turning the Gudgeon straps around the sternpost, and using a spot of paint just below the Pintle straps in-line with the Pintles.
Still a couple of things to finish, the Spectacle plate in particular, which should fit just below the Hance.
B.E.
09/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from DB789 in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 51
The Rudder
This is a nicely made Pearwood item with outer veneers, also of Pear, marked with the appropriate engravings for those who don’t intend to copper the hull.
With the Copper plate set comes a rudder specific section of plates. These can be added as a unit rather than individual plates and are designed to fit the rudder profile. A separate strip fits to the aft rudder face.
For this kit Chris has supplied laser board versions of the straps and pintles, a far better option than pe for this purpose.
The pintles on the rudder are an integral part of the rudder formed in Pearwood. The Gudgeons are also part of the rudder structure represented by pegs that fit into slots on the Sternpost.
If the rudder is to be attached in ‘working’ mode attaching the Gudgeons to the sternpost would be necessary.
Altho’ I’ve had working rudders on many of my builds, using Chuck’s Syren parts, I’m going with the kit arrangement on Harpy, with a few tweaks.
0712
A small modification I made to the rudder was to file a bearding line down the inner edges of the rudder which for practical purposes allow better movement and gives a more authentic look.
Strictly the copper plates should be folded inwards on the inners side, and folded over by about a scale mm on the outboard side.
0711
The provided set is too short to fully do this, but sufficient to follow and cover the bearding.
0715
For the rudder head straps rather than fiddle around with thin pieces of Laser board card I used heat shrink tubing.
Hanging the Rudder.
The rudder fits perfectly into the designated slots, nice and close to the stern post.
0718
The fit is so good I didn’t find it necessary to glue it into place
The straps to the Gudgeons can now be fitted to the hull.
0721
Where fitted over the copper plates I have painted the straps a Copper/Bronze colour to represent the cuprous alloy from which they were cast.
The bolt heads, barely noticed, are represented by spots of thick paint mix applied with the point of a wooden cocktail stick.
The kit set-up for rudder hanging no doubt makes what can be a tricky exercise a simple operation, but there is a cost in authenticity.
Photo from Build manual.
It caught my eye that there is an obvious disconnect between the gudgeon straps on the sternpost which end short of the gudgeon and the pintles that fit into them.
0717
Adm plan detail.
The difference can be seen here, the Gudgeons stand proud of the sternpost and the Pintle cut-outs in the rudder allow the pintle to engage with the hole in the Gudgeon.
Once you see it the eye is drawn to it.
0729
The look can be enhanced to an extent by turning the Gudgeon straps around the sternpost, and using a spot of paint just below the Pintle straps in-line with the Pintles.
Still a couple of things to finish, the Spectacle plate in particular, which should fit just below the Hance.
B.E.
09/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from dunnock in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 51
The Rudder
This is a nicely made Pearwood item with outer veneers, also of Pear, marked with the appropriate engravings for those who don’t intend to copper the hull.
With the Copper plate set comes a rudder specific section of plates. These can be added as a unit rather than individual plates and are designed to fit the rudder profile. A separate strip fits to the aft rudder face.
For this kit Chris has supplied laser board versions of the straps and pintles, a far better option than pe for this purpose.
The pintles on the rudder are an integral part of the rudder formed in Pearwood. The Gudgeons are also part of the rudder structure represented by pegs that fit into slots on the Sternpost.
If the rudder is to be attached in ‘working’ mode attaching the Gudgeons to the sternpost would be necessary.
Altho’ I’ve had working rudders on many of my builds, using Chuck’s Syren parts, I’m going with the kit arrangement on Harpy, with a few tweaks.
0712
A small modification I made to the rudder was to file a bearding line down the inner edges of the rudder which for practical purposes allow better movement and gives a more authentic look.
Strictly the copper plates should be folded inwards on the inners side, and folded over by about a scale mm on the outboard side.
0711
The provided set is too short to fully do this, but sufficient to follow and cover the bearding.
0715
For the rudder head straps rather than fiddle around with thin pieces of Laser board card I used heat shrink tubing.
Hanging the Rudder.
The rudder fits perfectly into the designated slots, nice and close to the stern post.
0718
The fit is so good I didn’t find it necessary to glue it into place
The straps to the Gudgeons can now be fitted to the hull.
0721
Where fitted over the copper plates I have painted the straps a Copper/Bronze colour to represent the cuprous alloy from which they were cast.
The bolt heads, barely noticed, are represented by spots of thick paint mix applied with the point of a wooden cocktail stick.
The kit set-up for rudder hanging no doubt makes what can be a tricky exercise a simple operation, but there is a cost in authenticity.
Photo from Build manual.
It caught my eye that there is an obvious disconnect between the gudgeon straps on the sternpost which end short of the gudgeon and the pintles that fit into them.
0717
Adm plan detail.
The difference can be seen here, the Gudgeons stand proud of the sternpost and the Pintle cut-outs in the rudder allow the pintle to engage with the hole in the Gudgeon.
Once you see it the eye is drawn to it.
0729
The look can be enhanced to an extent by turning the Gudgeon straps around the sternpost, and using a spot of paint just below the Pintle straps in-line with the Pintles.
Still a couple of things to finish, the Spectacle plate in particular, which should fit just below the Hance.
B.E.
09/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from mgatrost in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 51
The Rudder
This is a nicely made Pearwood item with outer veneers, also of Pear, marked with the appropriate engravings for those who don’t intend to copper the hull.
With the Copper plate set comes a rudder specific section of plates. These can be added as a unit rather than individual plates and are designed to fit the rudder profile. A separate strip fits to the aft rudder face.
For this kit Chris has supplied laser board versions of the straps and pintles, a far better option than pe for this purpose.
The pintles on the rudder are an integral part of the rudder formed in Pearwood. The Gudgeons are also part of the rudder structure represented by pegs that fit into slots on the Sternpost.
If the rudder is to be attached in ‘working’ mode attaching the Gudgeons to the sternpost would be necessary.
Altho’ I’ve had working rudders on many of my builds, using Chuck’s Syren parts, I’m going with the kit arrangement on Harpy, with a few tweaks.
0712
A small modification I made to the rudder was to file a bearding line down the inner edges of the rudder which for practical purposes allow better movement and gives a more authentic look.
Strictly the copper plates should be folded inwards on the inners side, and folded over by about a scale mm on the outboard side.
0711
The provided set is too short to fully do this, but sufficient to follow and cover the bearding.
0715
For the rudder head straps rather than fiddle around with thin pieces of Laser board card I used heat shrink tubing.
Hanging the Rudder.
The rudder fits perfectly into the designated slots, nice and close to the stern post.
0718
The fit is so good I didn’t find it necessary to glue it into place
The straps to the Gudgeons can now be fitted to the hull.
0721
Where fitted over the copper plates I have painted the straps a Copper/Bronze colour to represent the cuprous alloy from which they were cast.
The bolt heads, barely noticed, are represented by spots of thick paint mix applied with the point of a wooden cocktail stick.
The kit set-up for rudder hanging no doubt makes what can be a tricky exercise a simple operation, but there is a cost in authenticity.
Photo from Build manual.
It caught my eye that there is an obvious disconnect between the gudgeon straps on the sternpost which end short of the gudgeon and the pintles that fit into them.
0717
Adm plan detail.
The difference can be seen here, the Gudgeons stand proud of the sternpost and the Pintle cut-outs in the rudder allow the pintle to engage with the hole in the Gudgeon.
Once you see it the eye is drawn to it.
0729
The look can be enhanced to an extent by turning the Gudgeon straps around the sternpost, and using a spot of paint just below the Pintle straps in-line with the Pintles.
Still a couple of things to finish, the Spectacle plate in particular, which should fit just below the Hance.
B.E.
09/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from realworkingsailor in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 51
The Rudder
This is a nicely made Pearwood item with outer veneers, also of Pear, marked with the appropriate engravings for those who don’t intend to copper the hull.
With the Copper plate set comes a rudder specific section of plates. These can be added as a unit rather than individual plates and are designed to fit the rudder profile. A separate strip fits to the aft rudder face.
For this kit Chris has supplied laser board versions of the straps and pintles, a far better option than pe for this purpose.
The pintles on the rudder are an integral part of the rudder formed in Pearwood. The Gudgeons are also part of the rudder structure represented by pegs that fit into slots on the Sternpost.
If the rudder is to be attached in ‘working’ mode attaching the Gudgeons to the sternpost would be necessary.
Altho’ I’ve had working rudders on many of my builds, using Chuck’s Syren parts, I’m going with the kit arrangement on Harpy, with a few tweaks.
0712
A small modification I made to the rudder was to file a bearding line down the inner edges of the rudder which for practical purposes allow better movement and gives a more authentic look.
Strictly the copper plates should be folded inwards on the inners side, and folded over by about a scale mm on the outboard side.
0711
The provided set is too short to fully do this, but sufficient to follow and cover the bearding.
0715
For the rudder head straps rather than fiddle around with thin pieces of Laser board card I used heat shrink tubing.
Hanging the Rudder.
The rudder fits perfectly into the designated slots, nice and close to the stern post.
0718
The fit is so good I didn’t find it necessary to glue it into place
The straps to the Gudgeons can now be fitted to the hull.
0721
Where fitted over the copper plates I have painted the straps a Copper/Bronze colour to represent the cuprous alloy from which they were cast.
The bolt heads, barely noticed, are represented by spots of thick paint mix applied with the point of a wooden cocktail stick.
The kit set-up for rudder hanging no doubt makes what can be a tricky exercise a simple operation, but there is a cost in authenticity.
Photo from Build manual.
It caught my eye that there is an obvious disconnect between the gudgeon straps on the sternpost which end short of the gudgeon and the pintles that fit into them.
0717
Adm plan detail.
The difference can be seen here, the Gudgeons stand proud of the sternpost and the Pintle cut-outs in the rudder allow the pintle to engage with the hole in the Gudgeon.
Once you see it the eye is drawn to it.
0729
The look can be enhanced to an extent by turning the Gudgeon straps around the sternpost, and using a spot of paint just below the Pintle straps in-line with the Pintles.
Still a couple of things to finish, the Spectacle plate in particular, which should fit just below the Hance.
B.E.
09/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from PaddyO in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Don't know about you Chris but I struggle to relate that painting of Harpy to the Adm Plans. but that doesn't negate the use of stern davits on Brigs of the period.
There seems to be a lot of freeboard above the Gunports on that painting.
I like the look of your Harpy much better.
Cheers,
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Rustyj in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
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0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
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An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
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Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from mgatrost in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 49
Roof boarding
The painted roof boards look attractive, but I suspect in reality they would have been tarred or sheathed in lead to prevent water ingress particularly for the starboard side Pantry.
I have decided to Lead the boarding as a contrast to the paintwork.
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The lead foil is patinated using Pewter Patination fluid following a dip in white vinegar.
0657
I trimmed the boards a little to reduce the overhang at the front and longside.
0653
It proved quite tricky to secure the roof and I had to get inventive with a clamping arrangement.
I did pre-bend the boards before gluing using pva. I didn’t want to use Cyano in case any got on the paintwork or lead.
0661
0664
It is useful at this point to check the fit of the stern davits that sit atop the capping rail.
While I was waiting for glue to dry I had a play around with naming Harpy.
The kit doesn’t include lettering for the stern, and it’s debateable whether these Brigs even had name plates.
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However, that’s no reason not to have a look; I used 5mm stick on vinyl lettering in the only practical place on the transom.
I do rather like a name on the stern even if it stretches credulity.
I’ll ponder it a while, but application of the name is best done before the outer transom piece is glued into place.
B.E.
05/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from cotrecerf in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 48
Adding the Capping rails
Following on from Post 47 I am adding the Capping rails, but there a few preliminaries to attend to.
The spirketting and top rails have been fitted and painted.
The Gunwale tops have been levelled and sanded smooth.
0627
The Bowsprit opening at the Bows has been fettled and a Bowsprit section along with the stop have been temporarily put into place.
0637
The short forward sections of Capping rail are then glued into place.
I next assemble the Catheads and use them to mark the distance for the placing of the long section of capping. I am not fitting them at this point.
0633
At the stern I have levelled off that area of the deck cabin structures to allow fair run of the capping rail to meet the transom.
I notched the transom to allow free passage of the rail, it splintered a little but that is of no consequence as the outer transom pieces fit over.
0642
0641
Easier without the boarding in place to line up the capping at the stern.
0646
0651
0649
0645
I didn’t think it necessary to paint the rail prior to installation but I did run the edge of a chisel tipped waterproof marker along the inside edge.
Movin’ on…
B.E.
04/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Mr Whippy in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from rcweir in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from PaddyO in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Clark in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Don't know about you Chris but I struggle to relate that painting of Harpy to the Adm Plans. but that doesn't negate the use of stern davits on Brigs of the period.
There seems to be a lot of freeboard above the Gunports on that painting.
I like the look of your Harpy much better.
Cheers,
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from jpalmer1970 in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from gjdale in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from JacquesCousteau in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Mr Whippy in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 49
Roof boarding
The painted roof boards look attractive, but I suspect in reality they would have been tarred or sheathed in lead to prevent water ingress particularly for the starboard side Pantry.
I have decided to Lead the boarding as a contrast to the paintwork.
0656
The lead foil is patinated using Pewter Patination fluid following a dip in white vinegar.
0657
I trimmed the boards a little to reduce the overhang at the front and longside.
0653
It proved quite tricky to secure the roof and I had to get inventive with a clamping arrangement.
I did pre-bend the boards before gluing using pva. I didn’t want to use Cyano in case any got on the paintwork or lead.
0661
0664
It is useful at this point to check the fit of the stern davits that sit atop the capping rail.
While I was waiting for glue to dry I had a play around with naming Harpy.
The kit doesn’t include lettering for the stern, and it’s debateable whether these Brigs even had name plates.
0654
However, that’s no reason not to have a look; I used 5mm stick on vinyl lettering in the only practical place on the transom.
I do rather like a name on the stern even if it stretches credulity.
I’ll ponder it a while, but application of the name is best done before the outer transom piece is glued into place.
B.E.
05/03/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from AON in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 50
Fitting out continues
Looking at the stern area.
Overall I found this section difficult to get how I wanted it, and several dry fits, re-fits and decontructions were involved.
Stern board
This a tricky part to attach as it is awkward to clamp whilst ensuring the part is properly aligned.
0668
Again, I had to get inventive to secure the board in place.
0670
Having most of it glued, I separately re-clamped the lower quarter corners which were the most difficult to conform to the stern.
0672
0680
Finally, the Capping rail to the Tafferal is glued into place. The Aft davits were used to ensure alignment.
Quarter pieces
These are represented by a two layer arrangement so that the finished look is of the Lower Quarter piece extending down to the Square tuck.
0675
I spent a fair bit of time fiddling with the set-up for these, and once fitted I thought they could use some beefing up on the aft side where they meet the lower counter and the wale.
0691
An afternoon of tweaking to arrive at a look I was happy with.
The kit differs slightly from the Adm plans.
0696
0705
The kit has stern davits with a crutch for the Boom placed centrally on the tafferal.
0706
The kit usefully includes laser cut patterns for the sheaves both top and bottom. They need to be carefully drilled thro’ (0.6mm drill) from both sides.
The Adm plan does not show davits, instead the counter timbers are extended above the rails to provide port and starboard boom crutches.
It is more than likely that during her long career Harpy would have been fitted with stern davits, and for a model they do provide a feature of interest, particularly when fitted with one of the sweet little cutters supplied with the kit.
Waist rails
0682
Chris has designed a ‘string’ of rails that fit seamlessly between the ports. Finely cut with a central groove to represent a moulding they are easy to attach using spots of cyano.
I had thought of making my own, scribing a profile, but I didn’t think I could get down to scale size, and the kit ones look fine to me, given the size and class of the vessel.
B.E.
08/03/2025