Chuck Seiler

Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck
 
It will be Glorious!!!  

A few more pics.
 
     Bob R.

Been a while since I updated.  Moving along steadily.  Yesterday the mast was lashed on and decorative copper plates were added.  Tried to have it all done by the NRG conference but failed.  Was unable to attend the conference anyway.
 
 Bob R.

Hi all,
 
Having completed HMS Vulture and donating her to the Port Macquarie Maritime Museum I decided to build a Cross-section of the ship to display alongside her.
 
I will be building the section in exactly the same way I built the original model, using the same timbers etc. This will allow viewers to see some of the internal details which are now virtually invisible.
 
Below is my now customary Index to Points of Interest. Clicking on a Link will take you to the relevant post where the construction of that area begins. The Index will be added to as work progresses.
 
Index to Points of Interest
 
Preparations
 
Keel
Floors
Frames
Fitting Frames
Fairing
Pump Recesses and Pump Inlets
 
Internal Planking
Treenailing and Mainmast Step
Lower Deck Beams
Stanchions for the Well
Lower Well and Shot Locker
Limber Boards and Lower Deck Knees
Iron Knees
 
Chain Pump Sprocket and Chain
Pump Tubes
Hatch Coamings
Mast
Lower Deck Planking
Upper Well
Mast Partner Carlings and Main Topsail Sheet Bitt Pins
Hammock Battens
Gratings
Mast Partners and Pump Tubes Fitted
 
Wales
External Planking and Treenailing and Port Liners
Bitts Fitted, Cisterns and Chain Pump Cranks
Elm Tree Pumps
Guns
Quarterdeck Section, Entry Steps and External Moldings
Guns Finished, Gangways and Ladder
Gangway Railing and Newel Post, Channel, Chains and Deadeyes
 
FINISHED MODEL
 
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Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck
 
It will be Glorious!!!  

Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck
 
It will be Glorious!!!  

Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck
 
It will be Glorious!!!  

Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck
 
It will be Glorious!!!  

Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck
 
It will be Glorious!!!  

I think we west-coasters are already looking forward to San Diego.     
 
Hmm... 14 hours from Medord to San Diego....  doable.
Keep calendar clear... doable.
Overhaul and refit HMS Visa... doable.

San Diego is only a 5 hour drive for me.  Will have a much higher chance of attending that one!

What a wonderful few days indeed......
 
Ben, Duff,  Rusty, Druxey, Ron, Mike, Ryland  and so many others from MSW...It was great to spend time with all of you and chat.   Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck

Actually, Patience is mentioned in posts · 6 and 7

GG,
 
    Welcome aboard.  I have followed a couple of Dr. Crisman's projects and actually had an opportunity to hear him speak at an SMA Conference many years ago.  Maybe we can get him to speak at an upcoming NRG Conference.      I am also enamored with riverboats...mostly the off-Mississippi versions of the Mississippi boats (like the Missouri boats). 
 
    Currently there is an ongoing build of Steamboat Bertrand by Cathead that may be helpful to you.

All good points. I think that the better you get, the more detail you can put into your model. One reason for this is because you are getting better and can do things quicker. If it takes you forever to do the basic stuff, it will take several forevers to make it detailed. Secondly, when you get better your quality improves. Crappy details don't improve crappy models (trust me on that one). However when you have a quality model, quality details improve it.
 
That having been said, there IS such thing as too much detail. I think scale dictates that. Sometimes you can overwhelm a model with too much detail. Personal preference. Take a step back and let the model tell you what is right.
 
Who is your audience? If you are doing if for just yourself, make it for you. If you are making it for the public to see, remember people will only look at it for a few minutes, then go away. Some will look for 30 seconds some for 10 minutes. Make your model so it appeals to all of them in its own way.
 
...and whatever level of detail you decide upon, make ONE thing significantly more detailed. People will focus on that, you will get your "Holy Cow!!!" and people will walk away with a feeling it is far more detailed than it really is, because of the one they fixated on.

Thanks for the info Chuck! Here are a few pics of Philly as of today..

I am a big fan of not painting,but in this case I think some painting is needed.  If you go with the basic basswood, golden oak is a good color for above the wales.  Chuck P has had alot of success with that. 
 
     Personally, I would go with boxwood for above the wales and holly for deck.  I have a Byrnes Saw and regularly cut my planks.  However, buying pre-cut 'lumber' is an option in this case.  Generally, in my experience, planks above the wale don't require much in the way of spiling, so no fancy cutting is needed.
 
    What are your plans for coloring the wale (black)?  In the past I have tried wood dye and india ink.  I used the latter for my SULTANA with good result.  For PROVIDENCE I am trying the method Chuck P and some others have mentioned-coachman style. (See his CONFEDERACY and/or WINCHELSEA build logs.  Here, you use many (10 or so) very thin coats (watery) of paint with buffing in between coats.  When done right, it is fantastic.  I tried it on the transom of PROVIDENCE.
 
    Below the wale?  One PROVIDENCE I am experimenting with holly, to simulate white stuff.  Since many ships of this era seem to 'white stuff' below the wale rather than below the waterline, it is a bit easier.  The downside is that you planking has to be perfect.  Planking a ship like RATTLESNAKE is alot harder than PHILADELPHIA.  For SULTANA, I planked the best I could, used wood filler to fill the imperfections, then painted using a cream colored spray paint.  (I don't like stark white)
 
    Anywho, my thoughts.  Looking thru the archives, there are alot of RS build logs. Once you start yours there will be plenty of folks who will tune in and provide input.    

I am a big fan of not painting,but in this case I think some painting is needed.  If you go with the basic basswood, golden oak is a good color for above the wales.  Chuck P has had alot of success with that. 
 
     Personally, I would go with boxwood for above the wales and holly for deck.  I have a Byrnes Saw and regularly cut my planks.  However, buying pre-cut 'lumber' is an option in this case.  Generally, in my experience, planks above the wale don't require much in the way of spiling, so no fancy cutting is needed.
 
    What are your plans for coloring the wale (black)?  In the past I have tried wood dye and india ink.  I used the latter for my SULTANA with good result.  For PROVIDENCE I am trying the method Chuck P and some others have mentioned-coachman style. (See his CONFEDERACY and/or WINCHELSEA build logs.  Here, you use many (10 or so) very thin coats (watery) of paint with buffing in between coats.  When done right, it is fantastic.  I tried it on the transom of PROVIDENCE.
 
    Below the wale?  One PROVIDENCE I am experimenting with holly, to simulate white stuff.  Since many ships of this era seem to 'white stuff' below the wale rather than below the waterline, it is a bit easier.  The downside is that you planking has to be perfect.  Planking a ship like RATTLESNAKE is alot harder than PHILADELPHIA.  For SULTANA, I planked the best I could, used wood filler to fill the imperfections, then painted using a cream colored spray paint.  (I don't like stark white)
 
    Anywho, my thoughts.  Looking thru the archives, there are alot of RS build logs. Once you start yours there will be plenty of folks who will tune in and provide input.    

I am a big fan of not painting,but in this case I think some painting is needed.  If you go with the basic basswood, golden oak is a good color for above the wales.  Chuck P has had alot of success with that. 
 
     Personally, I would go with boxwood for above the wales and holly for deck.  I have a Byrnes Saw and regularly cut my planks.  However, buying pre-cut 'lumber' is an option in this case.  Generally, in my experience, planks above the wale don't require much in the way of spiling, so no fancy cutting is needed.
 
    What are your plans for coloring the wale (black)?  In the past I have tried wood dye and india ink.  I used the latter for my SULTANA with good result.  For PROVIDENCE I am trying the method Chuck P and some others have mentioned-coachman style. (See his CONFEDERACY and/or WINCHELSEA build logs.  Here, you use many (10 or so) very thin coats (watery) of paint with buffing in between coats.  When done right, it is fantastic.  I tried it on the transom of PROVIDENCE.
 
    Below the wale?  One PROVIDENCE I am experimenting with holly, to simulate white stuff.  Since many ships of this era seem to 'white stuff' below the wale rather than below the waterline, it is a bit easier.  The downside is that you planking has to be perfect.  Planking a ship like RATTLESNAKE is alot harder than PHILADELPHIA.  For SULTANA, I planked the best I could, used wood filler to fill the imperfections, then painted using a cream colored spray paint.  (I don't like stark white)
 
    Anywho, my thoughts.  Looking thru the archives, there are alot of RS build logs. Once you start yours there will be plenty of folks who will tune in and provide input.    

I am a big fan of not painting,but in this case I think some painting is needed.  If you go with the basic basswood, golden oak is a good color for above the wales.  Chuck P has had alot of success with that. 
 
     Personally, I would go with boxwood for above the wales and holly for deck.  I have a Byrnes Saw and regularly cut my planks.  However, buying pre-cut 'lumber' is an option in this case.  Generally, in my experience, planks above the wale don't require much in the way of spiling, so no fancy cutting is needed.
 
    What are your plans for coloring the wale (black)?  In the past I have tried wood dye and india ink.  I used the latter for my SULTANA with good result.  For PROVIDENCE I am trying the method Chuck P and some others have mentioned-coachman style. (See his CONFEDERACY and/or WINCHELSEA build logs.  Here, you use many (10 or so) very thin coats (watery) of paint with buffing in between coats.  When done right, it is fantastic.  I tried it on the transom of PROVIDENCE.
 
    Below the wale?  One PROVIDENCE I am experimenting with holly, to simulate white stuff.  Since many ships of this era seem to 'white stuff' below the wale rather than below the waterline, it is a bit easier.  The downside is that you planking has to be perfect.  Planking a ship like RATTLESNAKE is alot harder than PHILADELPHIA.  For SULTANA, I planked the best I could, used wood filler to fill the imperfections, then painted using a cream colored spray paint.  (I don't like stark white)
 
    Anywho, my thoughts.  Looking thru the archives, there are alot of RS build logs. Once you start yours there will be plenty of folks who will tune in and provide input.    

Made a crew member who's ready to repel boarders. Also installed the bulkhead that supports the poop deck and the rail cap all around. Used ordinary cellophane to glaze the stern windows. It has just the right amount of wrinkle to look 1776 ish
 
S.O.S.

Thanks Chuck! I might pull the trigger on it since seems like a good deal. I was even thinking of Not painting it. Stains only. What do you think?
 Almost done with rigging  Philly. I am surprised, looking better than I thought. I will post some pics soon. Oh and just starting rails and awning. 

I like the RATTLESNAKE a lot.  Really nice lines.  I have the kit, but Chuck said if I start any more build logs, he is going to....  well, it wouldn't be pretty.
 
I would recommend it.  There are enough people who HAVE started build logs on it that you would have plenty of help.

I like the RATTLESNAKE a lot.  Really nice lines.  I have the kit, but Chuck said if I start any more build logs, he is going to....  well, it wouldn't be pretty.
 
I would recommend it.  There are enough people who HAVE started build logs on it that you would have plenty of help.

I like the RATTLESNAKE a lot.  Really nice lines.  I have the kit, but Chuck said if I start any more build logs, he is going to....  well, it wouldn't be pretty.
 
I would recommend it.  There are enough people who HAVE started build logs on it that you would have plenty of help.