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There is no real official protocol and we just put it where we think it will fit nicely.  Most of the time if the question is very specific to a problem you are having in your build then the build log would be a good place (my gunport template won't line up with my frames any ideas?).  If it is a more general topic then the specific sub forum would be nice as an independent topic (want to start using an airbrush to paint where to start?).  
 
Sometimes question in a build log become so interesting and consuming with so many posts the mods will split it off into its own sub forum as a new independent topic.

One more thing for the newer members I have said before.  This is a world wide forum with people of all skill levels.  We literally have some of the best modelers in the world post regularly here.  People who literally wrote the books on our subjects.  Sort of a basketball forum with Lebron posting daily or a swimming forum where Phelps is all over the place.  Sometimes this is pretty intimidating.  Us mere mortals must always remember everyone starts somewhere and we all want to improve.  Some of those "pros" are the nicest and most helpful people here.  The tone and encouragement from everyone here on the forum makes this the best place to be

Michael and to everyone who's posted here:
 
Yes, indeed.  I have been so impressed with the responses to my ask; I don't know what to say.  The compassion (especially by Chuck) shown to a new guy like me is a testament to your efforts to make this a world class source for this hobby, notwithstanding the aims of the NRG.  And it was worth it: I have gained a new understanding of why and how this site works.  And it may be required reading by all new guys (and girls)!  Just a thought.
 
Thank you again for your comments...John😂

One more thing for the newer members I have said before.  This is a world wide forum with people of all skill levels.  We literally have some of the best modelers in the world post regularly here.  People who literally wrote the books on our subjects.  Sort of a basketball forum with Lebron posting daily or a swimming forum where Phelps is all over the place.  Sometimes this is pretty intimidating.  Us mere mortals must always remember everyone starts somewhere and we all want to improve.  Some of those "pros" are the nicest and most helpful people here.  The tone and encouragement from everyone here on the forum makes this the best place to be

There is no real official protocol and we just put it where we think it will fit nicely.  Most of the time if the question is very specific to a problem you are having in your build then the build log would be a good place (my gunport template won't line up with my frames any ideas?).  If it is a more general topic then the specific sub forum would be nice as an independent topic (want to start using an airbrush to paint where to start?).  
 
Sometimes question in a build log become so interesting and consuming with so many posts the mods will split it off into its own sub forum as a new independent topic.

One more thing for the newer members I have said before.  This is a world wide forum with people of all skill levels.  We literally have some of the best modelers in the world post regularly here.  People who literally wrote the books on our subjects.  Sort of a basketball forum with Lebron posting daily or a swimming forum where Phelps is all over the place.  Sometimes this is pretty intimidating.  Us mere mortals must always remember everyone starts somewhere and we all want to improve.  Some of those "pros" are the nicest and most helpful people here.  The tone and encouragement from everyone here on the forum makes this the best place to be

The next step was the laying of the frames on the keel,

 

 

 
the upper part of the frames, which looks like a "beam", will later be removed, serves only for the beginning of the laying of the planking
which was made with the tenon and mortise technique, similar to the technique used by the Etruscans,

 
the technique is called "eggshell" giving the planking a strong resistance and beauty, compared to the laying technique with framing
another thing that is evident, the structural characteristic of the hull, is a long ship, as often "military" ships were, ie the ratio between the maximum beam and the overall length is 6.36
(the value that is obtained by dividing 35m by 5.5m, the length divided by the measurement of the length of the beam m.) when the ratio is above 4 we are in the presence of a long ship

 

 
you begin to "see" the outline even if we are still very far from what it should become.
For many years and still today the triere has been and is, object of very thorough study, not only the triere as a boat, but all the elements that are helpful for a more precise analysis possible on the basis of evidence acquired in Athens. and in Piraeus for the reconstruction, as evidenced by both ing. Coates and Morrison, such as archeology, literature, iconography and epigraphy from which the elements that served for the information necessary for the realization of Olympias were taken; an example regarding archeology, the measurements of the triere are estimated to be 35m / 36m with a max width of 6m, and even if no identifiable remains of a ship of this type have been reported from the sea, there is direct evidence of its dimensions because some "shelters" for the triere have been found built in Piraeus in the 5th century.
The boats were winged every evening, moored in the sheds in the ancient Athenian ports of Zea and Mounichia, the naval installations have left a great archaeological imprint both on land and above all under the sea, the excavations carried out by the archaeologist Bjørn Lovén are famous. for hauling they have a maximum length of 37 m., while in the sense of the width there are approximately 6 m between the columns, I report some drawings and images of how they must have been drawn from the material I have found in these days of study .
The following images and drawings represent the ancient "shelters" of Zea and Mounichia, the first image are the ports seen by google maps,

 
the next ones are drawings of hauling and mooring in the shelters where every evening the triere were repaired,

 
as were the haulage shelters

 
the 3D reconstruction of the moored triere
 
 

 
these are longitudinal plans of the area where the warehouses were,
discovered by Dragatzes in 1886

 

 

 
to end with the isometric projection of the hauling in the Zea shelters

 
 
see you next time
 
 
 

Savage was built by  the well-known Barnard of Ipswich. Launched in 1778, she was eventually hulked in 1803; a surprisingly long life considering the vicissitudes she underwent!

Michael, that's what I figured.  I've posted in the tips forum with:
I got good, quick answers to all but the "Are deck cutouts necessary?"; got none there but that may have been due to my short reply.  Nobody advised that these should have been from my build log so I guess I have the feel for this.
 
Thanks for your help...John

Hello John, others have given you a lot of good advice about your concerns and it's easy to see just how helpful the forum members are here on MSW. I read the forum for several years before I finally took the plunge and actually began participating and, even then, it took some coaxing from others before I finally opened a build log on my Medway Longboat half way through the build.
 
 It was a great experience to not only share what I was doing, mistakes and all, but also to get lots of positive feedback which kept me motivated. I had never done any rigging before and I was hesitant to start it since it seemed so complicated. I received a lot of good advice and encouragement and it ended up being my favorite part of the build.
 
Of course, most of the interactions I had at that time were with other Medway Longboat builders but I also posted questions about rigging and various techniques etc in other forum areas specific to certain topics. I got lots of good advice that way also. I'm always appreciative of the advice and complements I get and I enjoy letting others know how appreciative I am. Like Chuck has mentioned, it's a back and forth thing and, before you know it, you've made friends while learning a lot and being complimentary in the process.
 
My problem now is that I seem to spend more time reading and posting than I do working on my current build! 
 
Good luck on your build and remember to take it slow and enjoy the journey...

There is no real official protocol and we just put it where we think it will fit nicely.  Most of the time if the question is very specific to a problem you are having in your build then the build log would be a good place (my gunport template won't line up with my frames any ideas?).  If it is a more general topic then the specific sub forum would be nice as an independent topic (want to start using an airbrush to paint where to start?).  
 
Sometimes question in a build log become so interesting and consuming with so many posts the mods will split it off into its own sub forum as a new independent topic.

Very nice result, Michael. So, what's next?

Congratulations! Now it's time for a cleaning of the shop, followed by opening up the next project...
 
I hope the pandemic resurgence isn't too bad in your area!

Ok, this does seem much better!
 

The color of the interior of the bar holes is red, so I painted the interior of the notches and one side of each of the other rings. I got a bit too sloppy with the paint. The excess paint, that wasn’t covered during the assembly, was sanded off and covered by the brass tape. As it turn out you can’t see any color because it’s too dark.
 
A strip of brass tape was added and pressed on real hard to ensure that it would not come off and to show by indentation where the openings were. Using a couple of fine chisels (1/16” width) I cut the clean square openings. Then I inserted six small pieces of wood into every other opening and stained it with a fine drop of the same Minwax I used before. One more section to go.

This time I constructed a third, 1/16”, thick ring. Guidelines were laid out for the purpose of making twelve 1/16” notches.  Why twelve you ask? If you look closely at the actual capstan, every other square cutout in the brass plating is not hollow, but solid wood. Why it was constructed this way, I don’t know, but there it is. My brass “plating” is brass tape I got at Hobby Lobby, a crafts store. And attempting to cut out 1/16” x 1/16” openings cleanly directly on the tape is almost impossible for me at least. It is much easier to cut out the squares if there is an opening behind the tape that a sharp tool can easily pass into using the opening as a guide for the blade.
 
The Byrnes saw was perfect for the job for cutting the notches. The cuts were made by eyeball following the guidelines. This notched ring became the “meat” in my sandwich.

I definitely agree with this advice.  This forum is so big that new posts get pushed off the front page so fast many will not see them.  Chucks 2 build log challenge is a great way for some of the people who have been here for a while to get some visibility on some of the new builders.  Even a quick "great job" comment does help encourage the builder.  Responding to them with a simple thanks in your build log helps complete the circle.  It gets even better if you go to their build logs and start leaving likes and comments.  The circle gets bigger...
 
As Chuck said
 
 
p.s. Also linking you current build in you signature makes it significantly easier to people to get to your log.  For the original poster I know you are working on the Lady Nelson but with no link I have to now go to the search box and search for your log along with all the other Lady Nelson logs.  A link in the signature makes it so much easier

Same here, Matt.  I'm not far on the Lady Nelson and I have already bought and received Vanguard Model's Speedy, figuring it would be out-of-stock during the pandemic.  Should not have bet against Chris Watton.😁
 
Thanks OC.  Another good tip.  Just liked your post.
 
Very generous offer, Gary.  Thank you.
 
Thanks Mark.  I've already posted into the tips & techniques area.  Was curious about whether to post a question there or in my build log.  Can you advise on what the protocol is?  Or point me to where that is discussed?
 
Did not know about the ship model kit discussions.  Looks like another useful resource.

All,
I really appreciate the advice. 
 I get it, although it is somewhat intimidating to insert my humble opinions into topics when I have so little experience.  I guess I was somewhat spoiled since when I posted on some issues outside of my build log, e.g.
Edge of Deck Plank Layout: Spirketting, Waterway, Margin Plank
  I got responses fairly quickly.  And in fact, after I updated my build log, I saw another LN build log.  The last post in there, by Shickluna Searcher was reaching out for help and I posted the following:
Posted October 10 Searcher,
 
I'm in the same (no pun intended) boat, the Lady Nelson.  And I had the same issues you had with the first planking.  I was pointed to the definitive site videos  here: https://modelshipworld.com/forum/98-planking-downloads-and-tutorials-and-videos/ .  The key one is the 3rd I think, where Chuck shows how to edge-bend the planks.  It puts a curve into the plank that when bent in the normal sense, it lays right on top of the forward bulkheads.  Yeah, I also followed Leon, but after 5 x planks, I reached for help from the wizards around here.  They convinced me to start over, which I did.  I left the 1st plank on and edge-bent the rest of them.  And we will likely need to do the same for the 2nd planking.
 
I would also recommend that you go through Chuck's build of the Cheerful, which is close to the LN.  You can find that here: https://syrenshipmodelcompany.com/revenue-cutter-cheerful-1806.php.  There is a PDF for each chapter.
 
I'm just a little bit ahead of you in the build and you can check out my log.  I would recommend that you create your own log so you can post your own questions and not be lumped in with whadozer's log.
 
Good luck...John
 
(Still haven't figured out how to copy between topics.)
 
Believe me Glenn, your log is the go-to log for me when I hit a snag.
 
I probably spend several hours everyday scouring different areas of this forum and others and usually I see things that click.
 
Again, thank you all for the advice.  I'm trying to be a good community person; will just try to be better.  And now to review the comments I got on my last log post.  Thanks Glenn.
 
John

The first one was great but the second one really adds to it

Glad you are doing a full build log for this.  I have been interested in the CLC boats for a while.  A few years ago I built a Pygmy kayak and had a great time and learned a ton.  I have been trying to get the wife to allow me to go for the Annapolis wherry but so far she’s not having it...

I definitely agree with this advice.  This forum is so big that new posts get pushed off the front page so fast many will not see them.  Chucks 2 build log challenge is a great way for some of the people who have been here for a while to get some visibility on some of the new builders.  Even a quick "great job" comment does help encourage the builder.  Responding to them with a simple thanks in your build log helps complete the circle.  It gets even better if you go to their build logs and start leaving likes and comments.  The circle gets bigger...
 
As Chuck said
 
 
p.s. Also linking you current build in you signature makes it significantly easier to people to get to your log.  For the original poster I know you are working on the Lady Nelson but with no link I have to now go to the search box and search for your log along with all the other Lady Nelson logs.  A link in the signature makes it so much easier

Welcome Phil.  Many of us bring stuff to work on when we travel or are away from home.  Starting a build log is a great way to show your work ask questions and all around participate in the community 

I definitely agree with this advice.  This forum is so big that new posts get pushed off the front page so fast many will not see them.  Chucks 2 build log challenge is a great way for some of the people who have been here for a while to get some visibility on some of the new builders.  Even a quick "great job" comment does help encourage the builder.  Responding to them with a simple thanks in your build log helps complete the circle.  It gets even better if you go to their build logs and start leaving likes and comments.  The circle gets bigger...
 
As Chuck said
 
 
p.s. Also linking you current build in you signature makes it significantly easier to people to get to your log.  For the original poster I know you are working on the Lady Nelson but with no link I have to now go to the search box and search for your log along with all the other Lady Nelson logs.  A link in the signature makes it so much easier

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