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rjones726 got a reaction from Pitan in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Today I completed the initial fairing of the frames ( minus the fore/aft cant frames). I took it out of the building jig to admire my work and realized how difficult it would be (for me) to properly align everything without it. I'm going to fine tune the fairing and remove any remaining char, then on Friday my lovely wife and I will be boarding a cruise ship in Seattle and heading to Alaska for a week of relaxation. Sort of like shore leave but...not ashore
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rjones726 got a reaction from Chuck Seiler in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Today I completed the initial fairing of the frames ( minus the fore/aft cant frames). I took it out of the building jig to admire my work and realized how difficult it would be (for me) to properly align everything without it. I'm going to fine tune the fairing and remove any remaining char, then on Friday my lovely wife and I will be boarding a cruise ship in Seattle and heading to Alaska for a week of relaxation. Sort of like shore leave but...not ashore
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rjones726 got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Today I completed the initial fairing of the frames ( minus the fore/aft cant frames). I took it out of the building jig to admire my work and realized how difficult it would be (for me) to properly align everything without it. I'm going to fine tune the fairing and remove any remaining char, then on Friday my lovely wife and I will be boarding a cruise ship in Seattle and heading to Alaska for a week of relaxation. Sort of like shore leave but...not ashore
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rjones726 got a reaction from Richard44 in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Today I completed the initial fairing of the frames ( minus the fore/aft cant frames). I took it out of the building jig to admire my work and realized how difficult it would be (for me) to properly align everything without it. I'm going to fine tune the fairing and remove any remaining char, then on Friday my lovely wife and I will be boarding a cruise ship in Seattle and heading to Alaska for a week of relaxation. Sort of like shore leave but...not ashore
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rjones726 got a reaction from JacquesCousteau in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Today I completed the initial fairing of the frames ( minus the fore/aft cant frames). I took it out of the building jig to admire my work and realized how difficult it would be (for me) to properly align everything without it. I'm going to fine tune the fairing and remove any remaining char, then on Friday my lovely wife and I will be boarding a cruise ship in Seattle and heading to Alaska for a week of relaxation. Sort of like shore leave but...not ashore
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rjones726 got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Today I completed the initial fairing of the frames ( minus the fore/aft cant frames). I took it out of the building jig to admire my work and realized how difficult it would be (for me) to properly align everything without it. I'm going to fine tune the fairing and remove any remaining char, then on Friday my lovely wife and I will be boarding a cruise ship in Seattle and heading to Alaska for a week of relaxation. Sort of like shore leave but...not ashore
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rjones726 got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Good day all,
After watching a you tube build series of the shallop (Thank you Olha)I decided that this was the kit for me. It seems to be challenging, but not so difficult that I'll give up in disgust (time will tell)
I posted a photo in the "At a glance" topic this morning and then decided, "What the heck, I might as well start a build log as well".
As you can see, construction is already underway. One of the things that drew me in was the use of jigs. Keeping things in alignment is critical and has caused me fits in the past. Once the jig was built and the 3 piece keel was together I began working on the frames. another jig is provided to ensure proper alignment during their construction. The pieces have a laser line that shows how much fairing is needed. I took my time to look at the instructions and to rewatch the video to ensure the pieces were placed correctly in the jig before gluing with PVA. I wrote "bow" and "stern" on the jig to remind me which way to insert the pieces. The instructions, while very clear, contain no text. Once the glue had dried I removed them and used files and sandpaper to remove the char and begin fairing. I stopped a bit short of the mark and will finish the fairing once the frames are glues and I can check them with a plank.
Looking forward to your comments and questions,
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 reacted to Chuck Seiler in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
My plan was similar to yours-general fairing (faring?) before assembling, then fine tuning once assembled. IIRC, you have to do some fairing or else the frame will not fit into the jig.
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rjones726 got a reaction from Chuck Seiler in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Hi Chuck,
Thanks for the advice on the cant frames. I am filing and sanding the forward frames this week and saved the cant frames for last. Did you do all your fairing prior to attaching the frames to the keel? My plan is to fine tune it after they are attached.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Chuck Seiler in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Good day all,
After watching a you tube build series of the shallop (Thank you Olha)I decided that this was the kit for me. It seems to be challenging, but not so difficult that I'll give up in disgust (time will tell)
I posted a photo in the "At a glance" topic this morning and then decided, "What the heck, I might as well start a build log as well".
As you can see, construction is already underway. One of the things that drew me in was the use of jigs. Keeping things in alignment is critical and has caused me fits in the past. Once the jig was built and the 3 piece keel was together I began working on the frames. another jig is provided to ensure proper alignment during their construction. The pieces have a laser line that shows how much fairing is needed. I took my time to look at the instructions and to rewatch the video to ensure the pieces were placed correctly in the jig before gluing with PVA. I wrote "bow" and "stern" on the jig to remind me which way to insert the pieces. The instructions, while very clear, contain no text. Once the glue had dried I removed them and used files and sandpaper to remove the char and begin fairing. I stopped a bit short of the mark and will finish the fairing once the frames are glues and I can check them with a plank.
Looking forward to your comments and questions,
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Richard44 in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Good day all,
After watching a you tube build series of the shallop (Thank you Olha)I decided that this was the kit for me. It seems to be challenging, but not so difficult that I'll give up in disgust (time will tell)
I posted a photo in the "At a glance" topic this morning and then decided, "What the heck, I might as well start a build log as well".
As you can see, construction is already underway. One of the things that drew me in was the use of jigs. Keeping things in alignment is critical and has caused me fits in the past. Once the jig was built and the 3 piece keel was together I began working on the frames. another jig is provided to ensure proper alignment during their construction. The pieces have a laser line that shows how much fairing is needed. I took my time to look at the instructions and to rewatch the video to ensure the pieces were placed correctly in the jig before gluing with PVA. I wrote "bow" and "stern" on the jig to remind me which way to insert the pieces. The instructions, while very clear, contain no text. Once the glue had dried I removed them and used files and sandpaper to remove the char and begin fairing. I stopped a bit short of the mark and will finish the fairing once the frames are glues and I can check them with a plank.
Looking forward to your comments and questions,
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from ccoyle in Captain John Smiths shallop 1608 by rjones726 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin - 1:32
Good day all,
After watching a you tube build series of the shallop (Thank you Olha)I decided that this was the kit for me. It seems to be challenging, but not so difficult that I'll give up in disgust (time will tell)
I posted a photo in the "At a glance" topic this morning and then decided, "What the heck, I might as well start a build log as well".
As you can see, construction is already underway. One of the things that drew me in was the use of jigs. Keeping things in alignment is critical and has caused me fits in the past. Once the jig was built and the 3 piece keel was together I began working on the frames. another jig is provided to ensure proper alignment during their construction. The pieces have a laser line that shows how much fairing is needed. I took my time to look at the instructions and to rewatch the video to ensure the pieces were placed correctly in the jig before gluing with PVA. I wrote "bow" and "stern" on the jig to remind me which way to insert the pieces. The instructions, while very clear, contain no text. Once the glue had dried I removed them and used files and sandpaper to remove the char and begin fairing. I stopped a bit short of the mark and will finish the fairing once the frames are glues and I can check them with a plank.
Looking forward to your comments and questions,
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Obormotov in Medway Longboat - Keel, Frames and build board discussion
It makes perfect sense Rusty. My idea was similar-to take a piece of 1/32" scrap attach it to something thicker/longer and set it against the keel as a gage to set the correct spacing. The 1/32" piece will set the rabbit and the thicker piece will rests against the keel. I hadn't thought of using rubber cement to hold it in place. I will probably make a couple and space them out. I need to find a piece of glass or marble as well.
Thanks,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Obormotov in Medway Longboat - Keel, Frames and build board discussion
While waiting for my kit to arrive out here in the Pacific NW I've been reading Chucks build log and thinking about how I intend on assembling the keel. I am curious as to how you insure the keel has a 1/32" rabbit on each side (i.e. centering the four 3/32" pieces). I have some ideas but I'd like to hear what more experienced builders have to say.
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rjones726 reacted to fluffybunny in Medway Longboat 1742 by fluffybunny - 1:24 - by Richard Glatter
I started on the keel today. First off this is my first ever ship build. I am attempting to do the complex method with the lap joints first. I've never used I used the method that chuck recommended with the #11 blade then some files. I had some issues. I knew using the #11 blade that I would have to even out the entire area of the joint. I ended up having some issues doing that. I found towards the end of the process that I took off a little bit too much wood in areas, but not enough in others. The files I were using were really narrow. I found using a wider sanding block would probably be a better solution for next time. I glued it up and have it clamped but there is a little bit of a gap that I'm not sure exactly yet how I'm going to fix it, or if I just use the simple keel. Having the option for both really helped me with if I screw something up I can try another option. I'm going to see what it looks like tomorrow after it drys really well. In the clamps it looks decent and that it might work but we will see.
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rjones726 got a reaction from Rustyj in Medway Longboat 1742 -1/2" scale by Rustyj - FINISHED
Lookin' good Rusty.
I'm right there with you. The cold, wet weather has moved into the PNW today so I came home from work and finished gluing the keel to the frames. I'm sitting down with a glass of wine and a fire. Eventually I will take some photos and update my build log.
Have fun!
Rob
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rjones726 reacted to Doug McKenzie in Medway Longboat 1742 by Doug McKenzie
The beveling of the frames is complete and was almost painless due to Ryland Craze's suggestion (in our email thread) to use nail files. I ended up with a set of emery boards that went from 80 to 3000. Similar to Ryland I used 180 almost exclusively. At first, I used a longitudinal motion using the bendability of the emery boards to advantage but I found that cumbersome so I made a change. I cut the emery board in half yielding 3 1/4" long pieces. Then I laid the short piece down (longitudinally) on the frame I was beveling and on an adjacent frame. I applied pressure to the frame I was beveling so the adjacent frame was only a guide. I rubbed along the frame's edge rather than moving longitudinally. I tried to leave a strip of the laser cut brown of about 25% of the thickness of the frame to avoid beveling too much. I think I may be trusting the accuracy of the kit by not beveling completely but it was a judgement call since the technology of the kit seems to be fantastic. I put extra effort into making sure each frame was centered when I glued them to the keel to further reduce this potential problem. Only after planking will I really know if this was OK.
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rjones726 got a reaction from JpR62 in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
I haven't posted in a week or so- it's time for an update. I sanded the stern keel sections to achieve a 1/32" rabbit to accommodate the width of the planks, Everything went great until I decided to dry fit the transom. I sanded the entire stern keel section such that it didn't fit snugly in the laser notch of the transom any more. Of course I waited to check this until after I had glued the stern keel section onto the keel. I debated trying to use alcohol or some other method to try to get it off but in the end I decided to start over using the simplified keel. This time I was careful to only sand the lower portion and leave the upper part alone.
The transom fit the way it was supposed to and I am pretty happy with the result.
I have been taking my time assembling the frames and working on getting them to fit snugly into the build board. Next task is to get a good fit of all frames in the keel notches. I am sure there are other folks here who are as inexperienced as I am. Hopefully by talking about my mistake, someone reading this will avoid my error.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
I haven't posted in a week or so- it's time for an update. I sanded the stern keel sections to achieve a 1/32" rabbit to accommodate the width of the planks, Everything went great until I decided to dry fit the transom. I sanded the entire stern keel section such that it didn't fit snugly in the laser notch of the transom any more. Of course I waited to check this until after I had glued the stern keel section onto the keel. I debated trying to use alcohol or some other method to try to get it off but in the end I decided to start over using the simplified keel. This time I was careful to only sand the lower portion and leave the upper part alone.
The transom fit the way it was supposed to and I am pretty happy with the result.
I have been taking my time assembling the frames and working on getting them to fit snugly into the build board. Next task is to get a good fit of all frames in the keel notches. I am sure there are other folks here who are as inexperienced as I am. Hopefully by talking about my mistake, someone reading this will avoid my error.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from JeffT in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
I haven't posted in a week or so- it's time for an update. I sanded the stern keel sections to achieve a 1/32" rabbit to accommodate the width of the planks, Everything went great until I decided to dry fit the transom. I sanded the entire stern keel section such that it didn't fit snugly in the laser notch of the transom any more. Of course I waited to check this until after I had glued the stern keel section onto the keel. I debated trying to use alcohol or some other method to try to get it off but in the end I decided to start over using the simplified keel. This time I was careful to only sand the lower portion and leave the upper part alone.
The transom fit the way it was supposed to and I am pretty happy with the result.
I have been taking my time assembling the frames and working on getting them to fit snugly into the build board. Next task is to get a good fit of all frames in the keel notches. I am sure there are other folks here who are as inexperienced as I am. Hopefully by talking about my mistake, someone reading this will avoid my error.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Rustyj in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
I haven't posted in a week or so- it's time for an update. I sanded the stern keel sections to achieve a 1/32" rabbit to accommodate the width of the planks, Everything went great until I decided to dry fit the transom. I sanded the entire stern keel section such that it didn't fit snugly in the laser notch of the transom any more. Of course I waited to check this until after I had glued the stern keel section onto the keel. I debated trying to use alcohol or some other method to try to get it off but in the end I decided to start over using the simplified keel. This time I was careful to only sand the lower portion and leave the upper part alone.
The transom fit the way it was supposed to and I am pretty happy with the result.
I have been taking my time assembling the frames and working on getting them to fit snugly into the build board. Next task is to get a good fit of all frames in the keel notches. I am sure there are other folks here who are as inexperienced as I am. Hopefully by talking about my mistake, someone reading this will avoid my error.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Cricket in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
I haven't posted in a week or so- it's time for an update. I sanded the stern keel sections to achieve a 1/32" rabbit to accommodate the width of the planks, Everything went great until I decided to dry fit the transom. I sanded the entire stern keel section such that it didn't fit snugly in the laser notch of the transom any more. Of course I waited to check this until after I had glued the stern keel section onto the keel. I debated trying to use alcohol or some other method to try to get it off but in the end I decided to start over using the simplified keel. This time I was careful to only sand the lower portion and leave the upper part alone.
The transom fit the way it was supposed to and I am pretty happy with the result.
I have been taking my time assembling the frames and working on getting them to fit snugly into the build board. Next task is to get a good fit of all frames in the keel notches. I am sure there are other folks here who are as inexperienced as I am. Hopefully by talking about my mistake, someone reading this will avoid my error.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Chuck Seiler in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
I haven't posted in a week or so- it's time for an update. I sanded the stern keel sections to achieve a 1/32" rabbit to accommodate the width of the planks, Everything went great until I decided to dry fit the transom. I sanded the entire stern keel section such that it didn't fit snugly in the laser notch of the transom any more. Of course I waited to check this until after I had glued the stern keel section onto the keel. I debated trying to use alcohol or some other method to try to get it off but in the end I decided to start over using the simplified keel. This time I was careful to only sand the lower portion and leave the upper part alone.
The transom fit the way it was supposed to and I am pretty happy with the result.
I have been taking my time assembling the frames and working on getting them to fit snugly into the build board. Next task is to get a good fit of all frames in the keel notches. I am sure there are other folks here who are as inexperienced as I am. Hopefully by talking about my mistake, someone reading this will avoid my error.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from CaptMorgan in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
Well I guess my build is underway. I began by using a set of digital calipers to measure the width of the keel. I then divided by 2, set the calipers and made a faint mark on the charred sides of the keel pieces at the scarf joints. Using those marks as a gage I began to cut and file my way down. As I got close I began using the calipers themselves to check for high spots. I'll glue them up once I run to the store and grab some titebond. I followed Chucks advice to take my time and not settle-make it fit. I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. For anyone following along I'll warn you, my photography skills are rudimentary at best and all I have is an iPhone. Maybe that's another area I can improve as the build progresses. Any and all comments and critique is welcome.
v/r,
Rob
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rjones726 got a reaction from Stuntflyer in Medway Longboat 1742 by rjones726 - 1:24
Well I guess my build is underway. I began by using a set of digital calipers to measure the width of the keel. I then divided by 2, set the calipers and made a faint mark on the charred sides of the keel pieces at the scarf joints. Using those marks as a gage I began to cut and file my way down. As I got close I began using the calipers themselves to check for high spots. I'll glue them up once I run to the store and grab some titebond. I followed Chucks advice to take my time and not settle-make it fit. I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. For anyone following along I'll warn you, my photography skills are rudimentary at best and all I have is an iPhone. Maybe that's another area I can improve as the build progresses. Any and all comments and critique is welcome.
v/r,
Rob
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