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I also found the stern area to be a bit of a challenge. Thankfully, the final result in my built was painted, which could cover over many of the rough spots after some filler.
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I asked a similar question before. Using a sanding sealer is one solution. You'll see a bunch of suggestions. wefalck seems to be an expert on these things - I've seen him reply to other posts when folks as about painting, sealing, staining. See here:
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One tricky thing with this model with all the thin planks is that I realized the planks were starting to separate from the build frame (separate in that a gap started forming). I wet down the planks and tightened them down with rubber bands to bend them in a bit. For future planks I’m going to add more of a bevel to the bottom frames than I have so far.
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I only have five in progress (it is amazing how often I’ll glue pieces on one to leave to dry, paint parts of on another, have pieces bended until dry on another). It does take some organization and a bit of space - and I’m working on smallish models. Sometimes I’ll have a few hours in the evening to spend on some models and then I’ll have lots of work work to catch up on other evenings - like tonight.
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I will be getting back to working on the Philadelphia. It’s a pretty large model and I have several small ones I’m working on in parallel. The next step is faring, and this one will generate a lot of sawdust and needs space. In the meantime, we visited Fort Ticonderoga while visiting our younger son this weekend. At the museum, they had a bit on the Gunboat Philadelphia - not surprising since it was engaged in battle and sunk north of the fort. Sharing photos of some models they had. Also sharing some photos of a large diorama they had, which included another model of the Philadelphia.
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Alcohol or acetone - potentially with a few applications - will work. You’ll want it to dry overnight before regluing. I got impatient trying to pry apart glued pieces and got a scalpel blade in my palm.
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Tapering Masts and Arms the easy way
palmerit replied to Johnny Mike's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
This approach works if you have a constant taper - or just want to do the first pass at a taper and then fine tune. Some of tapered masts and yards I’ve had to do aren’t linear. -
Tapering Masts and Arms the easy way
palmerit replied to Johnny Mike's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Another solution is to put an end of a dowel in a power drill (wrapping the end in paper of cloth so as not to intent it). Maybe that’s what you mean “by hand”. I use a clamp to keep the drill turning. Then use various grits of sandpaper to shape. Way better than trying to do it by hand, with a blade, or with a plane - at least for me. Need digital calipers to measure. This approach could work great so long as you get the angle right on the pieces (and could be more efficient) - if you have a power sander (I have one for big pieces, my hobby one is a non-powered Ultimation). -
Planking problems
palmerit replied to Mrgj24's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Pretty common problem. I’ve been there. To avoid this, a few things: - read whatever you can here and elsewhere about planking and find videos online - e.g., under “Modeling Techniques” at the top of this site, you’ll find links to info about planking - you’re doing full width planks all the way (or it seems like you are) and these may need to be tapered a bit (thinner near the bow than mid- ship), but never thinner that half the plank width - you like need to do some edge bending too (using a heat source like a plank bender, soldering iron, travel iron) with a bit of water - this is bending in the direction planks don’t naturally want to bend - you can achieve it with clamps, heat, water, practice - most models don’t give great guidance on how to shape and bend planks Getting planking right is probably the hardest aspect of ship modeling - it is more me. If you look at my Sherbourne it has huge gaps. You can “fix” the problem with lots of wood filler and sanding. I’d suggest trying to remove the planks and trying again, using alcohol or acetone to release the glue. -
I do like that Model Expo has a reasonable replacement policy. I wish they’d improve their quality assurance. I’ve had to get several things replaced.
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When creating a new build log for myself, I usually search for other builds either on modelshipworld itself or on google by typing in the name of the model and using site:modelshipworld.com (such as "grand banks dory site:modelshipworld.com") to see how others have tagged their build logs (and try to use the tags most build logs have used). The primary way I search for other build logs of a model I'm working on is by using tags. I'm sure I've probably missed some potentially useful build logs that don't use tags.
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Added the keel pieces, which forms the rabbet for the second layer of planking.
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Sanding down the first layer of planking. I might need to adjust a bit when adding the next layer of keel sections before the second layer of planking can be added.
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First planking done. Next step will be removing the pins and doing some sanding - I’ll do a little bit of filling in a few places just to not have any gaps for when I put on the second planking.
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I’m doing about a pair of planks every day or two (soaking and clamping to shape into place, then trimming and gluing into place after they’ve been shaped and dried). This is a challenging planking.
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Our house is awash with Legos. We added shelves in my younger son's room to showcase his large models. But I actually ended up buying a cheap set of faux lego blocks that are all the same size (these are classic 2x4 bricks, but there are other sizes): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BM4SM9T8?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5&th=1
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When people come into my office at work they see a few of the models I've built on one of my shelves. I turned 60 this past year. I tell people jokingly that over the past year I've developed an old man hobby - model ship building - and a young man hobby - scuba diving (my adult boys and I completed our Advanced Open Water this summer). (I know model ship building is not an "old man hobby" but there are lots of people who discover - or rediscover - it closer to retirement.) (As long as you're healthy, and you can get your doctor to approve, scuba diving is actually a nice "old man hobby". The hardest part on the knees is when you're fully loaded getting into the water. And if you have bad knees, you can often, depending on conditions, put your heavy equipment on in the water. On a dive trips in Grand Cayman last summer there was a guy on the boat who was probably in his mid/late-70s.)
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The shape of this hull continues to confuse me. The end shown in the photo above is the front and the heavily angled end on the other side is the rudder. When adding the lower planks, I forgot that and was thinking the end shown here was the rudder end and left some of the planks short since those usually end up being sanded down quite a bit. That's not the case here. I'll add some filler wood. Thankfully this is just the first planking. The instructions don't mention anything about doing any edge bending (really any bending whatsoever). In some ways it's not needed since this hull is small and straight. And since this is the first planking, any clinkering can be sanded out. The instructions in fact point out some clinkering in the photos and say not to worry about it - they'll be sanded. I did end up doing some edge bending on a couple of planks. I'm definitely going to do edge bending on the second planking. On the second planking, I'm also going to try to do some planning of the planking. I'm going to try - no guarantees - to be able to leave the upper part of the planking unpainted (if I'm unhappy with it I'll paint it). So I want the planking to look the best I can.
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Lego blocks work great - they can be clamped or rubber banded down, or even glued. You can put a few dabs of glue - more and it’ll be a pain to free the build frames from the build board. Look ahead in the instructions to see how you free in later - it’s good in general to look ahead in the instructions. And definitely start by posting questions to your own build log.
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That’s true for a large scale model. If you’re doing a 1:64 or smaller scale, probably even 1:48, you would not see brush strokes. Visible brush strokes I would think would be out of scale.
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One thing I have to say: the pin insertion pliers (from micro-mark) work infinitely better than the other style of pin pushers (I’ve tried two different kinds).
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I finished adding a thin layer of decking around the side.
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