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Louie da fly
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Louie da fly reacted to liteflight in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Thanks for that, Steven
Feels about what I expected, but as you say, it wasn’t rocket surgery
it wasn’ Matthew Parris, either. ( UK MP and hilarious broadcaster)
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Louie da fly reacted to liteflight in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Interesting and prescient picture!
I see Ned Kelly in the crew of the ships
Your research and relevant pictures are never dull
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Louie da fly reacted to Old Collingwood in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
You are certainly bringing this ship to life mate - lovely work.
OC.
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Louie da fly reacted to bigpetr in Viking longship by Cathead - Dusek - 1:35 - FINISHED
As you said Eric, modelmaking should be fun and your model looks great.
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Louie da fly reacted to Jim Lad in Viking longship by Cathead - Dusek - 1:35 - FINISHED
Just catching up. You really are making a beautiful job of this model.
John
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Louie da fly got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Convergent evolution, I'm sure. The guy's wearing what's called a "barrel helm" or "great helm" - at about 1215 this is quite an early one - they were in vogue for a couple of centuries. Despite appearances, the visibility through the eyeholes is pretty good, and you'll note the many breathing holes in the lower half - very important when you're exerting yourself.
Steven
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Cirdan in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Well the original Matthew Paris did do some pictures of ships . . .
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Louie da fly got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
First I know of is Matthew Paris (Oops!) Baker "Fragments of Ancient Shipwrightry" 1586 - about 40 years later, but I'm sure the principle had been known for a long time. (Matthew Paris was a completely different dude - a chronicler and artist in the 13th century.)
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from End Of The Line in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Here are a couple more photos -
Waterways added to the aftercastle deck (absolutely vital - to cover up gaps at the edge of the decking which you can see through down to the gunports below).
masts and bowsprit dry fitted. Still sanding the underwater planking.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in Viking longship by Cathead - Dusek - 1:35 - FINISHED
I like the logical and systematic way you're approaching this. I think making a model is always a bit of a tension between accuracy and practicality, and when you're "bashing' a kit to make it more historically accurate there's always the question of how far to go. And really, it's your choice - whatever seems right to you. This isn't going into a museum to be scrutinised by academics, it's your relaxation and enjoyment.
I've hit the same problem with my Great Harry because I built it before the Mary Rose was recovered, so it's full of details which later turned out to be inaccurate. So I'm always up against the issue of how far to change it from my original concept. My idea in restoring it was to just return it to the way it would have been had I finished it at the time, but I've been very inconsistent, changing some things in line with what I know now and leaving others as they were when I first built her.
Like I said - your decision - do what you think is right for you. And maybe one day you will revisit and build another one more in line with what you know now.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in Viking longship by Cathead - Dusek - 1:35 - FINISHED
I like the logical and systematic way you're approaching this. I think making a model is always a bit of a tension between accuracy and practicality, and when you're "bashing' a kit to make it more historically accurate there's always the question of how far to go. And really, it's your choice - whatever seems right to you. This isn't going into a museum to be scrutinised by academics, it's your relaxation and enjoyment.
I've hit the same problem with my Great Harry because I built it before the Mary Rose was recovered, so it's full of details which later turned out to be inaccurate. So I'm always up against the issue of how far to change it from my original concept. My idea in restoring it was to just return it to the way it would have been had I finished it at the time, but I've been very inconsistent, changing some things in line with what I know now and leaving others as they were when I first built her.
Like I said - your decision - do what you think is right for you. And maybe one day you will revisit and build another one more in line with what you know now.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Convergent evolution, I'm sure. The guy's wearing what's called a "barrel helm" or "great helm" - at about 1215 this is quite an early one - they were in vogue for a couple of centuries. Despite appearances, the visibility through the eyeholes is pretty good, and you'll note the many breathing holes in the lower half - very important when you're exerting yourself.
Steven
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Well the original Matthew Paris did do some pictures of ships . . .
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Old Collingwood in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
First I know of is Matthew Paris (Oops!) Baker "Fragments of Ancient Shipwrightry" 1586 - about 40 years later, but I'm sure the principle had been known for a long time. (Matthew Paris was a completely different dude - a chronicler and artist in the 13th century.)
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Ryland Craze in What is kit bashing?
Kit bashing is a very loose term. The common factor is starting with a kit. The "bashing" can mean adding details the kit doesn't provide because of cost factors, correcting inaccuracies in the kit, changing the way it's presented (say with the sails partly furled rather than all on display), or with (say) battle damage (rare) or weathering, or as you're intending, turning it into a different ship.
Bulkheads shouldn't warp after assembly unless you leave it for awhile before adding the planking, decking etc, which adds stiffness and support. If they do warp - or they're already warped when you take them out of the box, contact the manufacturer - the ethical ones will replace the warped parts. If that doesn't work, you can make your own - one of the advantages of working in wood.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from thibaultron in What is kit bashing?
Kit bashing is a very loose term. The common factor is starting with a kit. The "bashing" can mean adding details the kit doesn't provide because of cost factors, correcting inaccuracies in the kit, changing the way it's presented (say with the sails partly furled rather than all on display), or with (say) battle damage (rare) or weathering, or as you're intending, turning it into a different ship.
Bulkheads shouldn't warp after assembly unless you leave it for awhile before adding the planking, decking etc, which adds stiffness and support. If they do warp - or they're already warped when you take them out of the box, contact the manufacturer - the ethical ones will replace the warped parts. If that doesn't work, you can make your own - one of the advantages of working in wood.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in San Giovanni Battista 1598 by luponero - Medicean galleon
That whipstaff assembly for the rudder/tiller looks really good. And the planking on the deck, as well.
Do you use an automatic translator? Sometimes your posts say "deck" and sometimes "bridge". I suspect they are the same word in Italian. But only "deck" is correct here, because the bridge is a completely different part of a ship; it's the structure at the top of a modern vessel where the captain works.
I am very impressed by your lighting - electronics are a mystery to me, but I can appreciate the excellence of the work of others.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in De Zeven Provinciën 1665 by YankeeD - Scale 1:50 - according to drawings by Mr. O. Blom - First wooden scratch ship build
Beautiful - just beautiful.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in Coca by Rodolfo Bigoni - FINISHED - Amati - Scale 1:60 - XV century Spanish cargo vessel
That looks very good, Rodolfo. You're making good steady progress.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in Coca by Rodolfo Bigoni - FINISHED - Amati - Scale 1:60 - XV century Spanish cargo vessel
Thanks, Rodolfo. It sounds like you've got it all worked out well in advance. Once you have everything made, you can see how well it all works together.
My own blocks so far have simply been carved from a single piece of wood, with the "sheave" made by drilling two holes and carving out a groove between them. (Note the giant matchstick ).
I like your idea better, even if the sheaves don't pivot.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in Coca by Rodolfo Bigoni - FINISHED - Amati - Scale 1:60 - XV century Spanish cargo vessel
As you're probably aware, this model is based on the so-called "Mataro ship" in the National Maritime Museum Prins Hendrik, Rotterdam. One of our members visited not long ago and took some photos of the model - see
As you can see, the cross-trees and trestle-trees on this model are in the same plane, so it's probably right to base yours on this.
I agree about the blocks being "upside down" and I believe this is simply a mistake in the kit. Go with your own knowledge on this one - the ropes should come out at the top of the sheaves.
I'm not sure about the halyard, but it's possible the yard was never meant to be hauled all the way up. These pics are pretty typical of how ships of the time carried the mainyard - as you can see, it's not hauled all the way up.
Note also the top is made differently on the Mataro model than it is in your kit, and there is possibly enough space to get through the bottom from a rope ladder. If you haven't already made the top, perhaps you might consider making one that is closer to the original design.
The rigging of the Mataro model has been messed with over the centuries and perhaps shouldn't be relied upon too much regarding the placement of the rope ladder. I think you should use your own judgment how best to do it.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in Viking longship by Cathead - Dusek - 1:35 - FINISHED
Nice. The raven's probably based on this coin of Anlaf Guthfrithson (939-941).
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Ron Burns in Viking longship by Cathead - Dusek - 1:35 - FINISHED
Not sure if a shieldmaiden would be on a ship like that, but assuming she would, her sword and sax (dagger) are extremely accurate, as is the equipment of the axeman. That's a very pretty axe head (as axeheads go - I guess you have to be really into this stuff to call an axehead pretty, but look at these ones . . .)
Just from an aesthetic viewpoint, I think that is such an elegant shape. And then there's the decorated ones . . .
Unlike where you are, it's high summer here in Ballarat. So why is it so cold and rainy? (or is that an oxymoron? (Ballarat = cold and rainy).
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Louie da fly got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Well the original Matthew Paris did do some pictures of ships . . .
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Cirdan in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Here are a couple more photos -
Waterways added to the aftercastle deck (absolutely vital - to cover up gaps at the edge of the decking which you can see through down to the gunports below).
masts and bowsprit dry fitted. Still sanding the underwater planking.
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