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Dublin Bay 21 class racing yacht from 1903.Can't pin down the name of S2 although I found the names of all seven.Three have sunk and four remain in a farmers field,even watched a youtube video of the remaining ones Kind Regards Nigel
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Thank you very much indeed Brian .I am still plodding along with the deck,hope to have half of it laid by the end of today.Tapering the deck planks adds a mountain of time to the work,but I am more than happy with how it is shaping up.The difference in caulking between this technique and say pencil will not really show up until I apply some finish. Kind Regards Nigel -
Hi Mate My vote goes for varnishing (I assume this is what you mean)before fitting out.You may find more than one coat is require with a little rubbing down in between to achieve your desired finish.This is nigh on impossible to do with things in place and not end up with a deck that looks like the North Sea.Another factor is that unless you spray very thin coats of poly,it will form a small radius in the internal corners and everything will loose it's sharpness and definition. I use a small burr in the Proxxon to abrade areas that fittings stick to making sure I go into clean timber.The epoxy bond is more than adequate and pinning is only required on stressed,vulnerable,items with a small gluing surface or larger items.Things like hatch combings,I find it unnecessary.I generally use Tamiya tape to 'mark' the outline of the fitting preventing any mishaps and marking the deck. Kind Regards Nigel
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She looks fabulous mate!!!Can't believe I have missed two updates,but haven't been on here much this week My advice would be to save treenailing for the next build.I personally feel you are too far on to use any methods I would use.For the 'drill and fill' method,this would have been best employed before wales and trim on the hull and to tackle the deck will result in spoiling your paintwork.You could try pencil,but this always just looks like what it is.Don't want to sound a party pooper,but similarly don't want to advise you to do something that runs the risk of spoiling your great work due to access problems. Kind Regards Nigel
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You are infact correct Eamonn,as I have double checked everything,but the pic I clicked on listed this vessel as JMSDF Kunisaki which is an assault ship,following my link further did lead to the shipmodel page with the pictures you have been looking at.Further investigation on Kunisaki shows a stern door obviously not present on my pic. I feel a little annoyed with google but will hand the helm over to you Eamonn as you named Ise first.My fault for not checking out the pics correctness beforehand and picking a rather spurious choice of vessel Kind Regards Nigel
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Hi Slog,no definitely not Hyuga,infact she is NOT a helicopter carrier,she is listed as something quite different Another clue is that to my knowledge,unlike most of the other vessels,she does not have a ww2 contemporary of the same name. Kind Regards Nigel
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No mate Ise is Hyuga class,same as they were in WW2.What time is the last ferry? Kind Regards Nigel
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I told you they all look the same cue,more stroking of white cat Kind Regards Nigel
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No mate,sorry This cat is getting heavy now BTW two ships in Izumo class,Izumo and other one not named yet,not due for completion until 2017 Kind Regards Nigel
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In answer to your question Eamonn,nope.I did have to google it myself to check as I only know the name .Thought this may be a little fun as all JMSDF ships are like flower class corvettes,they all look the same Prompt,evil laugh stroking of white cat Kind Regards Nigel
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So there is Andy Even with that clue,it maybe fun Kind Regards Nigel
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Thanks mate Lifeboats,mmm,I do know my Severn class from my Trent class Anyway I am kind of hoping I might have found a toughie,but we shall see Kind Regards Nigel
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Sorry mate,is it Suibheir? First immediate port of call was Irish Customs vessels and I recognised the Revenue class from my rc boat interests.Somebody does or did produce a kit/semikit of this class. Kind Regards Nigel
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Fabulous work on the gun deck Bob I bet you are glad to be able to move up a deck now and carry on with something a little different.At least there isn't three decks worth of 100 cannons to do Kind Regards Nigel
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177x ships - British vs US design, what are the differences?
NMBROOK replied to Mike Y's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Interesting stuff,unfortunately i can't comment on British vs American designs having not researched American construction techniques.I can say though that through everything i have read,the consensus is that French naval architecture,at least in the 17th and 18th century was vastly superior to the British.The French constructed light,agile,highly maneuverable ships,whereas the British lost out through over engineering of everything.It was the difference in training of the crew that made up for the shortcomings of British designs.To my knowledge,Britain had been importing some of their timber as far back as the 17th century. Kind Regards Nigel -
Not wishing to hijack this thread,but skull and crossbones heavily feature on the tomb of George Mackenzie in Greyfriars Churchyard in Edinburgh.I will leave anyone to google this to reveal the history behind this man who had a reputation for torture.Incidentally recommend this graveyard for anyone visiting Edinburgh on holiday.The Harry Potter books were written in a cafe by JK Rowling a few hundred yards from here Kind Regards Nigel
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I am in total agreement Druxey,had this been a planking job in the process,serious issues would be encountered filling the middle in.Also because the frames have not been faired properly if at all. Kind Regards Nigel
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In a word YES.I am now full convert to full timber infill of the lower hull.Even if you plank the model and don't have dips or flatspots,they can appear years later if the model is subject to a humidity change.Lots of bulkheads would cure this,but on a kit,it is easier to 'fill and fair' than add more bulkheads.Many Eastern European,Ukranian and Russian masters infill their hulls or use a design that creates a semi solid hull,so it is certainly more than just me that believes there is mileage in this technique. Kind Regards Nigel
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An unusual and interesting story Mark,thank you for posting and the pics Kind Regards Nigel
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Thank you very much indeed Michael for your kind words Sadly the distinct four seasons of my childhood has now been replaced by a few sunny days around Easter and variable weather for the rest of the year featuring lots of rain I live in hope of the heatwave of 76/77? but don't miss 6ft snowdrifts Kind Regards Nigel
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No Problem Keith,it is in the pipeline When I do the other half of the deck I will take pics of the steps involved.I will finish this half and scrape it down so everyone will get a good idea of the results.Can't really post a tutorial without a finished example Kind Regards Nigel
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I thought I would post a couple of pics as this thread has popped up again.Having taken on board all the different methods employed by everyone,I feel I have come up with a new alternative .I developed this for my Mordaunt build to be used on both deck hull and keel.The fact the model will be finished in Shelac immediately precludes the use of any type of marker as the alcohol or meths base will dissolve this and cause it to smear.It is time consuming,but I feel gives a thinner sharper line than using black paper.I opted to use black tissue paper as not only is this much thinner,it allows doesn't run the risk of weakening the joint like paper.I do propose to post a tutorial on it as there are some differences to the paper method.The part laid deck in the picture still needs more scraping to the finished level,but gives an impression.The deck is pear with a max plank width of 5.7mm(the planks are tapered) Kind Regards Nigel
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Don't be falling asleep in the cinema mate Kind Regards Nigel
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Thanks mate Your spirketting looks great and finishes everything off wonderfully I wonder if go faster stripes are going to make it in to the book of nautical teminology? Kind Regards Nigel
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Thank you very much indeed Grant I am more than happy with the results,but I am glad this is the only deck that will be fully planked Kind Regards Nigel
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