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NMBROOK reacted to rafine in Frigate Essex by Rafine - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Kitbashed
This is an update covering a little bit of this and a little bit of that. I started by attempting to drill all those inner bulwark holes for eyebolts and ringbolts. That came to a screeching halt when I broke my remaining drill bits and had to order more. While waiting for their arrival, I started making up ringbolts, a tedious task at best. I couldn't finish them or the eyebolts, however, because I am still waiting for arrival of some Birchwood Casey Brass Black.
I then decided to do the painting of the hull from the wales to the top of the copper. This was done with Pollyscale black. The edge is a little ragged in places, but this will be covered by the top of the copper. I also added pieces of molding at the joint of the hull and counter planking.
The drills then arrived and I immediately started breaking them again. Fortunately, I remembered an old trick. If even a small part of the cutting portion of the drill remains, they can still be used. In fact the broken drills worked as well and lasted longer than the unbroken ones. The holes are now done, but nothing installed in them yet.
Finally, I experimented with the copper, and began on doing it today. I'll post some pictures when I get enough done to be seen.
Bob
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NMBROOK got a reaction from Captain Slog in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi Slog
Yes Janos is correct in that I was referring to the limited table travel and size which makes clamping larger items a little more complicated.
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK reacted to Boccherini in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Keith,
I purchased an MF70 last year through Chronos engineering supplies in the UK, even with the freight costs it was still several hundred dollars cheaper than anyone in Australia, I can't vouch for their current price. The service was good and came with tracking. Just needed to swap the plug on the power cord. The machine comes with 3 cutters, some clamps and a set of collets. In addition, I purchased the precision vice, dividing head and the adjustable chuck. The adjustable chuck is ok, not fantastic. Better to stick with the collets wherever possible.The chuck and collets will take drill shanks up to 3mm. I have purchased some additional Kyocera cutters (0.5 - 0.8mm with 3mm shanks) from My Tool Store in Qld. He provides a reasonable service, shipping/delivery is good.
I have used the mill to make some blocks, the dividing head was useful to ream out the ends on some barrels. So far, the MF70 appears to be a useful tool. It is particularly useful if space is a problem, being easy to pack up and store. It is vital to bolt it down on your bench before using.
Regards,
Grant.
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NMBROOK reacted to Captain Slog in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi Nigel,
Can you please clarify why this is the case. I have little to no experience with mills but thought it would be perfect for this.
Cheers
slog
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NMBROOK reacted to jud in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
NMBROOK; Had a local machinist tell me that when he bought bits that he put them into a cold oven then set the heat at 450° F and left them in for an hour after reaching the set temperature, turned the oven off after that hour and let the bits cool in the oven. He was of the opinion that many drills were hardened but not tempered properly. I haven't tried it yet, but if I get any bits from China or find a set that breaks when they shouldn't, in the oven they will go.
jud
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NMBROOK got a reaction from Keith_W in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi Keith,
I think if you are wanting a machine that is capable of producing deck fittings etc the MF70 is ideal.If you are wanting a mill to cut the deadwood slots in the keel of a 1/48 first rate then the MF70 is not ideal for that,although it would be possible.I did start my milling thread with the intention of illustrating what can be accomplished with a mill for newcomers like yourself.Unfortunately due to my work load I have not been able to devote as much time as I would like,but I will continue to expand on it.If you want an illustration of what can be made on the MF70,have a look at marsalv's Royal Caroline build.He has some great pictures of work actually being milled and gives a good idea of what you can produce.
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK reacted to Keith_W in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Thank you for your reply Nigel. My problem is a little like a Catch-22 situation. (1) I don't know what is possible, because (2) I don't know what parts are available, therefore back to (1) I don't know what is possible Hence this thread.
I have been devouring build logs to get an idea what people can make with this machine. So far what attracts me is the precision - a level above what I can do with my humble hand tools. Unfortunately most build logs are rather sketchy about how they achieved the results ... all I can see is "I milled this on my Proxxon" without specifying what cutter they used, how they clamped it down, how they squared it, etc.
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NMBROOK got a reaction from lapwing in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi Keith
You are correct in that no accessories are included,however the step clamps are as well as a full set of collets.I think a lot depends on what you intend to do with the machine.I have found it ideal for small work which was my reason for buying.There are larger more capable machines out there but my reasoning was there would be more of a luxury and the advantage size wise would be of little advantage compared to the big jump in price.I bought the vice,rotary head and tools together with the machine in order to maximize it's potential.
I have found that the Proxxon cutters are extremely good and having only two flutes are optimized for the higher cutting speeds.With the supplied collets you can also use many of the woodcutting burrs from the Dremel/Proxxon range.
As regards squaring the workpiece to the quill,I either have machined packers to support the workpiece or measure the face to be machined with the depth gauge of a digital vernier to the table.You cannot rotate the z axis,so this remains square the the milling table.I have yet to find the need for a centre finder.
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK got a reaction from AntonyUK in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi Antony
Thank you for the tip(no pun intended ) and i shall purchase one of the micromot chucks.
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK reacted to AntonyUK in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi Nigel.
Yes they do fit.
The link below is my source.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Proxxon-MICROMOT-Keyless-Chuck-/300522249537?pt=UK_BOI_Building_Materials_Supplies_Carpentry_Woodwork_ET&hash=item45f8859d41
If your bits keep breaking then get the ones with a 135 degree ground angle.
They are made to NOT move as they enter the material you are drilling.
Regards Antony.
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NMBROOK reacted to AntonyUK in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi.
I have the Proxxon MF70 mill.
Got mine from new from EBay compleat with the vice, set of colets, rotary chuck, set of 3 cutters,and clamping kit.
The cutters are excellent quality and cut very clean. And I use mine a lot
Have also brought a chuck that I can use to hold cutters or small drills. Just using mine ATM drilling 0.5 holes and there are a lot of them.
Also purchased a set of cutters with 6 different shapes. Not yet tried them.
You can get PCB board cutters that are very small and will cut hardwood forever These will fit into the chuck.
Spend some time and tighten the gib strips.
Really spend time on this as it will improve the Quality of the cut and give longer cutter life and machine life.
In my opinion it's a very good machine But don't expect it to mill steel.
Regards Antony.
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NMBROOK got a reaction from Keith_W in Proxxon MF70 opinions and accessories
Hi Keith
You are correct in that no accessories are included,however the step clamps are as well as a full set of collets.I think a lot depends on what you intend to do with the machine.I have found it ideal for small work which was my reason for buying.There are larger more capable machines out there but my reasoning was there would be more of a luxury and the advantage size wise would be of little advantage compared to the big jump in price.I bought the vice,rotary head and tools together with the machine in order to maximize it's potential.
I have found that the Proxxon cutters are extremely good and having only two flutes are optimized for the higher cutting speeds.With the supplied collets you can also use many of the woodcutting burrs from the Dremel/Proxxon range.
As regards squaring the workpiece to the quill,I either have machined packers to support the workpiece or measure the face to be machined with the depth gauge of a digital vernier to the table.You cannot rotate the z axis,so this remains square the the milling table.I have yet to find the need for a centre finder.
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK reacted to AlexBaranov in HMS Cumberland 1774 by AlexBaranov - FINISHED - 1:36
finish work with hull
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NMBROOK reacted to derebek in Royal William by derebek - 1/72
Friends Thanks Royal William I took a break for an important project (peleng i Bahri ) to model a few months later I will continue http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3688-ottoman-galleon-peleng-i-bahri-1777-148-pof/
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NMBROOK got a reaction from Jeronimo in Peleng-i Bahri 1777 by derebek - 1/48 - POF - Ottoman Galleon
Fabulous carving work,especially to attain the curved background
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK got a reaction from md1400cs in Santisima Trinidad by GTM - OcCre - 1:90 - Kit Bashed
Fabulous build Theo Yes the ST had side steps,here is the link to a Spanish site with drawings.No entry port,the steps went from the waterline right to the top of the hull
http://usuarios.arsystel.com/naviost/nst/I-index.html
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK reacted to DORIS in ROYAL CAROLINE 1749 by Doris - 1:40 - CARD
Hello dear friends and thank you a lot for your feedback and kind words. I am very honoured and pleased.
And once again Happy New year to you all!
That´s right, I use various materials, but I try to use card/paper as far as it goes, but sometimes paper has got limits (solidity and durability), or it is easier to make some details of other materials with much better result. I have no special tools, unfortunately. The most important for me is final impression and durability. Some years ago I used only paper, but was not satisfied with "paper" looking result.
I am honoured, thank you. Your work is also a great inspiration for me, I admire the realism and a high level craftsmanship of your models.
Don´t worry, dear friend. I am pleased sharing my work with you. Sometimes i am a bit busy to add new post ( it is also quite difficult to me write in English), but I am going to continue as soon as possible.
Well, the Royal Caroline is already closed - all decks are in their places and i am continuing with fitting and lighting on stern.
Enjoy the pics and have a great time
Kind regards
Doris
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NMBROOK got a reaction from WackoWolf in Peleng-i Bahri 1777 by derebek - 1/48 - POF - Ottoman Galleon
Fabulous work Ersin Is there any chance of an update in your Royal William log?I am sure a lot of members would be interested in this magnificent model and your incredible carving skills.
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK got a reaction from hollowneck in Worst Victory ever?
These things have a place in the market,the people who make them are feeding the families,I would be interested to know the mark up though.Regarding the price,ask yourself how much an exemplary model of Victory would cost,then compare it with the what they are asking.
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK reacted to marktiedens in Vasa by marktiedens - FINISHED - Sergal - scale 1:60
I feel for you - seems as though it would not have been that hard for Corel to design them a little better.I will watch to see what approach you take to make them better as I also have the Corel kit also.Maybe you can come up with some kind of jig to make new brackets with your new milling machine.
regards,Mark
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NMBROOK reacted to derebek in Peleng-i Bahri 1777 by derebek - 1/48 - POF - Ottoman Galleon
double-sided final checks on the imitation keel curved
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