KeithAug

Impressive metalwork, winches and booms. I would have loved to have seen more of your techniques.

Yes Bob the language barrier strikes again: Brightwork also known historically as "bright work" refers to the exposed and varnished wood or metal work of a boat.[1] The metal is usually brass or bronze that is kept polished, or stainless steel, which requires less maintenance.[2]

Early post restoration photos appear to feature what i would recognise as a modern representation of a traditional block.

They are great Rick. I have spent most of this evening studying and organising the photos, quite an enjoyable evening, particularly when I suddenly realise what an obscure image is ( eg the steam whistle hiding in the canvas). Could you please pass on my sincerest thanks to everyone who has facilitated your visit. A lot of other MSW members appear to be enjoying going through the images so that’s another accolade for your efforts. Have a good day.

That's very interesting Roger. The one obvious anachronism in this approach is the fitting of the stabilisers. To me they look quite out of place on this style of hull. Bob. The brass isn't in a great state which in my book is a crew duty. I don't know whether Cangarda was built with traditional wooden blocks but agree stainless steel and plastic look out of place.

Spoil sport, I am deflated.

Ah! Cangarda has got one! I now feel I can join the group of enthusiasts.

Keith - She is an old lady making the most of her golden years. I hope you don't talk about the Admiral having gone to seed! Also don't tell her about the restoration costs being conditional on continuing love! I am planning to model her as freshly restored because that is how I like to imagine her - Cangarda that is!

Thank you Rick - some great detail there. The deck detailing around the deck houses plus much of the other stuff will prove extremely useful. The deck is remarkably uncluttered compared with that of Germainia. During the course of the build I am almost certainly going to find myself coming back to you to ask where is this or that bit. I hope you are in good health and planning to be around for a while? Some of the background reading confirms that the original panel has been retained as a museum feature. I guess the roof of the aft cabin is pretty clean. It doesn't have guard rails so obviously nothing up there requires routine access. Very nice winch detail but now I am going to have to figure out how I depict graded hoses. What do you want to do about the remaining photo's - (or have you sent them all?). It's fine by me if you just keep posting them here if you have any more to send? Once again thank you for all your help.

So I had better make a start but firstly a big thank you to all of you who have engaged with this project thus far. I will try to be as enthusiastic as you all seem to be. I have been collecting photographs and looking for plans of Cangarda on the net for about 8 months. It is fairly normal to find web photographs of restored classic yachts. Typically they are photographed in anchorages and photographs are also taken when they are sold or chartered. Unfortunately these photos are generally less than ideal for the typical modeller. For a start, much of the charter photography focuses on broad external overviews complemented by extensive detailed shots of the internal accommodation. The camera rarely points down at all those interesting deck fittings or up to the heavens where all that fascinating rigging resides. Shots taken at anchorage (or in transit) are also generally less than ideal. They tend to be taken from too far away to get the detail and of course deck detail is generally obscured by the viewing angle. Sometimes as in Cangarda's case photographs of the restoration are available and these can be a useful resource. So far as plans are concerned, in Cangarda's case I was somewhat fortunate. A paper to The Classic Yacht Symposium 2006 covering the early restoration of Cangarda contained 4 useful plans as follows:- These plans while containing a lot of detail were contained within a PDF document and I struggled to find a way of extracting them while keeping the detail. The images posted above are screen shots and of course when these are blown up they pixelate and produce saw tooth line edges which aren't very useful. Notably the plan information did not contain hull lines and at this stage this was the most significant obstacle to attempting a successful model build. What did give me some optimism was that I had found a lot of on line photographs of the hull fabrication. With these I had started to get a bit optimistic that I could use the available plans (above) with the general frame shapes to make a reasonable representation of the hull form. Interpreting the frames from the camera angle distorted images to generate the frame sections wasn't going to be easy but hey i was willing to give it a go. I am always a bit reluctant to put upon people and this was probably the reason that I only recently contacted Jeff Rutherford whose boatyard undertook the restoration of Cangarda. I couldn't have been more delighted with his response. Jeff confirmed that there were no lines originally and that the designer drew the profile of the bow and stern and the yard filled in the rest. The hull was then digitally scanned and the lines were retrospectively generated. Jeff put me in touch touch with Andy Davis of Tri Coastal Marine who supplied the "precious" hull lines drawing in PDF format together with a bonus reproduction of two of the plans from the 2006 paper. The lines at this stage are not sufficiently detailed for modelling having only 11 abeam sections (5.5" spacing at 1:24 scale). The hull of Cangarda is constructed on 86 frames all equally spaced at 18" full size or 3/4" at 1:24 scale. Only one of the cross sectional hull lines aligns with a frame (frame 75 at the ruder post) with all the others being set off from the frames by varying distances. I want the frames on the model to align with actual frames (I learned this lesson on Germania see note1 below) and so I need to do a lot of draughting to generate the frame drawings. I have decided that I can get away with 43 frames for modelling purposes giving a frame spacing of 1.5". I guess it is now time to get down to a few weeks of tedious draughting to generate the 43 frame drawings. Note 1 - On Germania I didnt align the frames with the actual frame positions which became a problem when cutting the port holes (which invariably sit between frames) - some of which sat half on and half off the plywood frames - making for some very tricky drilling.

Yep - morals are a problem in most of the world!

Bob, Yes, I was following Gerald’s build until he sadly died. His jigs were fantastic. I just prefer working in wood.

That is an excellent plan. My granddaughter will be 4 in September and knows Germania is hers. I will suggest to the parents that I need a new sponsor for this one.😬

Bob, I’m modelling her as she is now with her all welded “smooth” hull. As originally built she was constructed from riveted plates as can be seen in some of her early photos. My first thoughts on painting are. Plank her hull in mahogany and overpaint above the waterline in green to match her current finish. Below the waterline leave the hull as polished mahogany. But who knows what I will be thinking in a years time☹️.

Bob, hmmm! I suppose she may have a Royal Naval Officer or reservist on board or be a member of a Royal Yacht Club, who knows? Or it may just be that the red duster is a bit lowbrow!

Many thanks Rick. Are they on memory stick? If you agree I will send you my home address by PM. If you let me know the costs I will gladly reimburse them. Best regards.

Andy - Thanks for the reference. Good job dad didn't have a Triumph Stag - he wouldn't have got very far.

Dan she was launched in 2008/9 and I can't find any signs of a hailing port since then - although I don't have a lot of pictorial evidence.

Quite messy but I have to admit it turned out a lot better than I expected. The caulking does look a little wide to me but that is easily sorted by thinner pins. Another deck caulking option for us all to consider.

Is that like "Roger the Cabin Boy" from Captain Pugwash?

Denis - over the coming weeks I am going to be generating a lot of intermediate frames which may be of some interest to you.

Bob - I thought that but then had a look at the photos I had of her since launch. Only one or two show the stern with any clarity but I can't see a hailing port on any of them. The second image is August 2021.

Bob, I don’t know but like you would be interested to find out. This is what I believe the rules are: The name and the hailing port must be displayed externally on the vessel, either on both sides of the hull or on the transom. The hailing port must include the place and a state, territory, or possession of the United States.

That’s what the admiral said ………………….. rather disapprovingly as I was pasting the plans together on the dining table earlier today. She relented when I showed her the photographs of how pretty Cangarda is. 5’9” overall length.

Great forensic dissection of you photographs Keith.