Erik W
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Erik W reacted to archjofo in La Créole 1827 by archjofo - Scale 1/48 - French corvette
Hello dear colleagues,
I wanted to provide an additional explanation about the braided stirrups.
In various publications I was able to read how the braids were looped and secured around the yards, but I have not yet found a picture of it. According to these descriptions, I implemented it for my model at the main topgallant yard and now quickly made a drawing at Eberhard's @wefalck request.
I think it might have looked like this:
Of course I can't be absolutely sure about this.
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Erik W got a reaction from KORTES in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the likes and the encouraging comments. I finished more of the deck planking this week. I did my first scarph joints on the deck. The remaining planking will be more time consuming since it involves cutting the planks out of wood sheet. One note on planking color. Since I have 2 different batches of 3/16" wide wood for the main planking I used, which are both different from 7/32" wide planking I used, which is different again from the wood sheet, I decided to deliberately mix up the planks of different shades from the beginning. The plank color would vary anyway, and this kept it varied throughout the deck, rather than having bands of different shades as I transitioned from the planking stock to sheet stock. The photos were taken after a quick first sanding.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I'm working on the strakes below the wales. I have the first row completed, but have a bit of an issue with the drop plank on the port side. I over sanded the after end of the plank a bit which causes it to taper rather than widen at the aft end. When I shaped the plank behind it (seen temporarily taped on in these photos) I had to excessively thin the front of that plank. Looks a bit weird to my eye, and causes a kink where the drop plank meets the plank behind it. I plan on removing the drop plank and making another one with the correct profile. Taking the lessons learned from the port side, the starboard side drop plank turned out better and my test fit adjacent plank is of the correct width and the run is smooth.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
After starting work on my Cheerful again . . . I immediately went back east on vacation for the holiday. But I'm now back and cutting wood. I installed the wales. I'm going to wait to paint the wales until I have the two strakes below them installed. I have yet to apply any Wipe on Poly since I'm not yet done with the final sanding and cleanup above the wales. The plan then is to do the two strakes below the wales, do a final sanding of the wales and above, apply WOP, paint the wales and counter . . . and then proceed to plank the rest of the hull.
Here's where I am so far. The wales have been added and sanded.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I normally wouldn't post after adding just one plank, but since yesterday was the first progress I've made on the Cheerful since early June, I thought I'd let you guys know that my motivation is returning. I'm working on getting the second layer of the wales added . . . so have photos of the first of the 2 planks on the port side. I also threw in a photo of the stern. I know the rear gun port frames are slightly crooked (you can't tell when viewing from the interior). Since the gun ports will be modeled closed, this won't be noticeable. I figured having the exterior planking smooth and straight is more important.
I envy those of you who can stay focused on your one build. I am easily distracted by my other hobbies http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4423-what-else-do-you-model-besides-ships/?p=343803 . . . and life in general. Glad to be back.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Wow guys! Thanks for all the nice posts. That was very kind. Some of my fondest memories of my dad are our sailing trips from Annapolis, MD when I was a kid and then from Newport, RI when I was a teenager. My family, who had been taking care of him, told me that this last year he would always look forward to my Saturday morning phone calls, and reports of my progress on the longboat and Cheerful (one of the reasons my longboat build log had so many photos was because I was taking photos every few days that I could email my dad). As long as I can remember, my father always had an eye towards the sea.
Though my shipyard has been quiet, I have been gathering some more materials for the build. I recently received an order from Chuck of a couple of his mini kits . . . and printed the latest chapters in his practicum.
. . . and since forums are always better with photos, here's my Cheerful as she sits today.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I took these photos a few days ago. I cut the trim pieces to shape using the plans . . . only to realize since my wales are a touch lower at the stern, the trim pieces were too short. So, I cut them again. I glued them on tonight . . . after snapping one while bending it to shape. I managed to glue it together again with no noticeable seam. My progress and motivation are slowing down as we get into warm weather and outdoor season. Once I add the second layer of planking to the wales, I'll most likely take a break until the weather is more conducive to sitting inside.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I did the preliminary sanding of the interior side of the planking of the counter and transom. I have to say, it's definitely much easier when you only have to worry about how the exterior of the planks look!
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I planked the transom. This was much more of a challenge than the photos indicate. Though the transom looks flat, it actually has a pretty good curve to it, so the edge bending is quite severe. I reduced the plank width by .010" on each plank, so the 4 planks are a uniform width going down the center of the transom. One of the gun port lower sills is a bit crooked. I figured this doesn't matter since the ports will be closed. I am more concerned with making sure both ports are the same size, and true and level. The transom and counter have both been given a first preliminary sanding.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I planked the counter. Since this area will be painted red, I didn't bother running a pencil between the planks to make them stand out. The result being, the 8 planks look like a solid sheet! Since I've gotten pretty good at getting the planks snug against one another, I'm curious if once painted, this area will look solid, or if we'll be able to see the plank edges. I guess I could have worse problems than smooth planking with no gaps.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I cut away the framing at the stern with a small Dremel drum sander. I then cleaned the area up with sanding sticks. I thinned the frames to 1/16" using a .060" thick piece of styrene as a guide. With the planking at the stern still unattached, I sanded the hull bulkhead tops/stern frame tops to get the correct deck curvature. I figured this was easier to do now, than when the stern area is planked.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
More progress. I finished the planking around the port side gun ports. I've done the preliminary sanding, and also the fairing of the top where the cap rail will go.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Here are a couple of photos of the port side of the Cheerful. You can see my high tech set up of how I'm holding it while planking this part . . . an old towel. It's something soft that won't damage the hull, and I can position the ship the way I want it. Also you can see the small clamps and clothes pins I'm using to hold the planks in place while the glue sets. These photos are the raw look before any sanding has been done . . . with finger prints, glue smudges, etc.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I reached a mini milestone by getting the above-the-wale portion of one side of the hull planked up to where the cap rail will be. The planking between the gun ports is fun, but a bit tedious. I've done the preliminary sanding of what I've planked so far, and a rough faring along the top of the bulwark. Still needs more work, but I'd rather wait until both sides are done before I tidy things up. So . . . it's still a bit rough looking.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I'm working my way upwards with the planking around the gun ports. I'm taking my time. It seems best to wait to sand this area until I have all the planks down. This is the rough look then. I usually clean things up a bit for the photos I post. So . . .this is kind of the equivalent of meeting someone for coffee without first showering, brushing my teeth, and combing my hair.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the feedback Chuck! Glad to get an expert opinion on the chamfer . . . and glad I asked before I went that route.
I didn't have my mind set on the blue. You have some good points about the blue planks being wider than the wale. At this point then, I'm leaning towards not doing the blue option. I will do some tests using color paper, and coloring in a printed side view of your plans to get a visual on how it would look.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I've been considering going with an alternate paint scheme for my Cheerful than what others are doing. My thoughts were to paint the top two planks on the sides (the two between the top trim strip and the cap rail) blue. I'd also paint the transom blue, but leave the counter a natural color. I have two questions. 1. My thoughts were to sand a very slight bevel on one edge of one of the two planks to be painted, so once painted the planks can still be seen to be individual planks. Do you think this will work? Or is this not something that is done. What are the potential problems? 2. Is blue a realistic color on a cutter or ship from this era? It doesn't have to be accurate for the Cheerful, but if there's no chance a cutter had blue paint, I might skip it.
I borrowed these photos from Chuck's build log to demonstrate what I'm talking about (thanks in advance Chuck!).
The side view of the plans showing the top two planks.
Photos from the Rogers collection in Annapolis showing some blue (but at Chuck has pointed out, not the Cheerful).
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I'm continuing with the planking above the wales. Things are temporarily looking very rough in these photos. Some of the planks are partially sanded. Other planks are not sanded yet. Like Chuck, I only did the pencil caulking between planks in areas where it won't be hidden by the wales or trim pieces. So, it looks a little odd at this stage. The two red pieces of wood next to the ship are parts of the stern gun port framing I accidentally just broke off! Grrr! Thought I'd take a break, and snap a few photos . . .
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Since my progress is slow and steady . . . you get photos of every little step forward! I added the molding strips on each side, just below the gun ports. These were actually quite challenging to get a smooth run since they're so narrow. It's easy to accidentally kink them. The first side I did I wound up pulling off and reattaching the main strip 4 times, and the short strip in front of the forward gun port 2 times. I blame Mike (Stuntflyer) for setting the example of pulling things apart and starting over. The second side went much smoother with no need to start over.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Tony Hunt in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the likes and the encouraging comments. I finished more of the deck planking this week. I did my first scarph joints on the deck. The remaining planking will be more time consuming since it involves cutting the planks out of wood sheet. One note on planking color. Since I have 2 different batches of 3/16" wide wood for the main planking I used, which are both different from 7/32" wide planking I used, which is different again from the wood sheet, I decided to deliberately mix up the planks of different shades from the beginning. The plank color would vary anyway, and this kept it varied throughout the deck, rather than having bands of different shades as I transitioned from the planking stock to sheet stock. The photos were taken after a quick first sanding.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from scrubbyj427 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the likes and the encouraging comments. I finished more of the deck planking this week. I did my first scarph joints on the deck. The remaining planking will be more time consuming since it involves cutting the planks out of wood sheet. One note on planking color. Since I have 2 different batches of 3/16" wide wood for the main planking I used, which are both different from 7/32" wide planking I used, which is different again from the wood sheet, I decided to deliberately mix up the planks of different shades from the beginning. The plank color would vary anyway, and this kept it varied throughout the deck, rather than having bands of different shades as I transitioned from the planking stock to sheet stock. The photos were taken after a quick first sanding.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from wvdhee in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the likes and the encouraging comments. I finished more of the deck planking this week. I did my first scarph joints on the deck. The remaining planking will be more time consuming since it involves cutting the planks out of wood sheet. One note on planking color. Since I have 2 different batches of 3/16" wide wood for the main planking I used, which are both different from 7/32" wide planking I used, which is different again from the wood sheet, I decided to deliberately mix up the planks of different shades from the beginning. The plank color would vary anyway, and this kept it varied throughout the deck, rather than having bands of different shades as I transitioned from the planking stock to sheet stock. The photos were taken after a quick first sanding.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from JesseLee in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the likes and the encouraging comments. I finished more of the deck planking this week. I did my first scarph joints on the deck. The remaining planking will be more time consuming since it involves cutting the planks out of wood sheet. One note on planking color. Since I have 2 different batches of 3/16" wide wood for the main planking I used, which are both different from 7/32" wide planking I used, which is different again from the wood sheet, I decided to deliberately mix up the planks of different shades from the beginning. The plank color would vary anyway, and this kept it varied throughout the deck, rather than having bands of different shades as I transitioned from the planking stock to sheet stock. The photos were taken after a quick first sanding.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Mike Y in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the likes and the encouraging comments. I finished more of the deck planking this week. I did my first scarph joints on the deck. The remaining planking will be more time consuming since it involves cutting the planks out of wood sheet. One note on planking color. Since I have 2 different batches of 3/16" wide wood for the main planking I used, which are both different from 7/32" wide planking I used, which is different again from the wood sheet, I decided to deliberately mix up the planks of different shades from the beginning. The plank color would vary anyway, and this kept it varied throughout the deck, rather than having bands of different shades as I transitioned from the planking stock to sheet stock. The photos were taken after a quick first sanding.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from egkb in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for the likes and the encouraging comments. I finished more of the deck planking this week. I did my first scarph joints on the deck. The remaining planking will be more time consuming since it involves cutting the planks out of wood sheet. One note on planking color. Since I have 2 different batches of 3/16" wide wood for the main planking I used, which are both different from 7/32" wide planking I used, which is different again from the wood sheet, I decided to deliberately mix up the planks of different shades from the beginning. The plank color would vary anyway, and this kept it varied throughout the deck, rather than having bands of different shades as I transitioned from the planking stock to sheet stock. The photos were taken after a quick first sanding.
Erik
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