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michael mott reacted to BANYAN in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
If you call that crude I still feel ever so inadequate with my level of skills. I have had to remind myself on several occasions that I was looking at a model and not the real cabin. Exceptional work Michael.
cheers
Pat
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michael mott got a reaction from MAGIC's Craig in Pauline by michael mott - scale 1:8 - Gill Smith Catboat
Roger, thanks for the info I have sent Mary Van Dahm an inquiry.
Craig thanks for the link and your thoughts, I have followed that thread in the past and saw the pictures before photobucket put their ugly stamp on top of the pictures.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Pauline by michael mott - scale 1:8 - Gill Smith Catboat
The article details some interesting methods for the creation of the model by Christopher Morrison, some of the details at 1/32nd scale of a 21 foot boat on page 222 there is a footnote that mentions that George Daniels book Watchmaking is one of the three most important modelmaking books he has ever read, I concur with that assessment, I was given a copy of this book for my 50th birthday in 1998
George makes the art of metalwork sound as easy as snapping lego bricks together. The book is a treasure trove of techniques and is full of wonderful drawings illustrating these techniques.
One of the interesting things that Christopher Morrison points out in the description of Gill Smiths boats is that he used sawn natural crook frames from Oak. Planking of Cedar, deck planking of Pine ,Cedar , or Cypress.
I have three types of trees in my backyard Crab-apple, Amur Maple, and Bur Oak. I keep all the pruning pieces and save some for modelwork and some for the occasional evening sit by the fire pit in the late summer evenings.
here is a lovely piece of apple that I cut 1/2 inch thick and stickered after a major limb was pruned a few years ago.
first the rough bandsawn side
Hand planing the surface.
and a close up of the smooth surface, so for a naturally curved beam.
The piece is about 13 inches long.
There was a replica of Pauline made called Anitra in 1988, I am hoping that there were photographs taken of the build.
Michael
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from druxey in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Hi Vaddoc, I was not able to avoid "dog ears" as you say. I had to trim the edges a few times to remove excess material as it closed up Also I used some heavy needle nosed pliers a fer times to flatten out a couple of areas at the corners that were beginning to fold. I do not have the proper tools for serious metal smithing in a jewelers sense, so the final form is a bit crude. Sorry I did not take a few more pictures of some of the steps especially the trimming, to remove the excess, it was a lot of concentration during the work.
Oh yes lots of stuff, And that is what is so great about this site I learn so much from all the wonderful things that the other members do.
Oh oh.... I see another gauntlet....
I was looking at the web regarding stoves and it seems like the one in Integrity is a Taylor Stove there are some good photographs, it was also interesting reading about the pros and cons of the different fuel types, Old Style Alcohol, New Style Pressure Alcohol , plus the kerosene /diesel types and the LPG gas ones.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from billocrates in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
I had a long chat with the owner and he reminded me that we were on a budget with this refit so I mentioned that I would try to find a used copper sink, I found one on MYBAY it was the right price.
Checked the fit
Ok so here's how I did it
Cut out a bit of copper sheet
made up a former from some scrap maple 2x1.5x 3/4 then sanded it smooth. Annealed the copper and started bashing
Many annealings and bashings later with a leather mallet
and more bashings couple of different hammers but mostly with a too big ball pein.
A couple of clean up hammerings and then cleaned up the top and dropped it into the pickle .
I picked up the gauntlet Druxey you have a habit of dropping it.😉
I'm not going down that other rabbit hole
Greg I think I read an article about that Model in a Scale ships or similar magazine I seem to recall it had gold and silver fittings.
Eberhard, I have not figured it out yet I will be doing a bit of searching to see if I can find some better pictures of the type that is in Integrity.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from MAGIC's Craig in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Hi Vaddoc, I was not able to avoid "dog ears" as you say. I had to trim the edges a few times to remove excess material as it closed up Also I used some heavy needle nosed pliers a fer times to flatten out a couple of areas at the corners that were beginning to fold. I do not have the proper tools for serious metal smithing in a jewelers sense, so the final form is a bit crude. Sorry I did not take a few more pictures of some of the steps especially the trimming, to remove the excess, it was a lot of concentration during the work.
Oh yes lots of stuff, And that is what is so great about this site I learn so much from all the wonderful things that the other members do.
Oh oh.... I see another gauntlet....
I was looking at the web regarding stoves and it seems like the one in Integrity is a Taylor Stove there are some good photographs, it was also interesting reading about the pros and cons of the different fuel types, Old Style Alcohol, New Style Pressure Alcohol , plus the kerosene /diesel types and the LPG gas ones.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from FriedClams in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
I had a long chat with the owner and he reminded me that we were on a budget with this refit so I mentioned that I would try to find a used copper sink, I found one on MYBAY it was the right price.
Checked the fit
Ok so here's how I did it
Cut out a bit of copper sheet
made up a former from some scrap maple 2x1.5x 3/4 then sanded it smooth. Annealed the copper and started bashing
Many annealings and bashings later with a leather mallet
and more bashings couple of different hammers but mostly with a too big ball pein.
A couple of clean up hammerings and then cleaned up the top and dropped it into the pickle .
I picked up the gauntlet Druxey you have a habit of dropping it.😉
I'm not going down that other rabbit hole
Greg I think I read an article about that Model in a Scale ships or similar magazine I seem to recall it had gold and silver fittings.
Eberhard, I have not figured it out yet I will be doing a bit of searching to see if I can find some better pictures of the type that is in Integrity.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from mtaylor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Hi Vaddoc, I was not able to avoid "dog ears" as you say. I had to trim the edges a few times to remove excess material as it closed up Also I used some heavy needle nosed pliers a fer times to flatten out a couple of areas at the corners that were beginning to fold. I do not have the proper tools for serious metal smithing in a jewelers sense, so the final form is a bit crude. Sorry I did not take a few more pictures of some of the steps especially the trimming, to remove the excess, it was a lot of concentration during the work.
Oh yes lots of stuff, And that is what is so great about this site I learn so much from all the wonderful things that the other members do.
Oh oh.... I see another gauntlet....
I was looking at the web regarding stoves and it seems like the one in Integrity is a Taylor Stove there are some good photographs, it was also interesting reading about the pros and cons of the different fuel types, Old Style Alcohol, New Style Pressure Alcohol , plus the kerosene /diesel types and the LPG gas ones.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from Keith Black in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Hi Vaddoc, I was not able to avoid "dog ears" as you say. I had to trim the edges a few times to remove excess material as it closed up Also I used some heavy needle nosed pliers a fer times to flatten out a couple of areas at the corners that were beginning to fold. I do not have the proper tools for serious metal smithing in a jewelers sense, so the final form is a bit crude. Sorry I did not take a few more pictures of some of the steps especially the trimming, to remove the excess, it was a lot of concentration during the work.
Oh yes lots of stuff, And that is what is so great about this site I learn so much from all the wonderful things that the other members do.
Oh oh.... I see another gauntlet....
I was looking at the web regarding stoves and it seems like the one in Integrity is a Taylor Stove there are some good photographs, it was also interesting reading about the pros and cons of the different fuel types, Old Style Alcohol, New Style Pressure Alcohol , plus the kerosene /diesel types and the LPG gas ones.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 by michael mott - 1:8 scale - SMALL
Thank you all for your votes of confidence.
Mark this is what I mean
I had hoped that by spreading the thickened glue I would avoid having to go back and fill the low spots and pinholes. In order for the deck to take a good final finish it needs to be "flat" and not looking like an open grain.
Photographs can be brutal or deceptive in this case they were deceptive.
More rounds of scraping seem to be in the cards.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 by michael mott - 1:8 scale - SMALL
Thank you all for the likes.
Build part 35
I modified some small clamps that I made a while back, I took out the spring and added a short length of styrene tube, this enabled the clamp to close with a degree of pressure not easily available with the springs.
the small diameter of the bent brass part allowed me to get into a pretty tight spot.
After the planks were glued I gave a leveling sand ready for the filling.
next I thickened up the coloured glue and spread it over the surface as if I was grouting tiles...... I won't do that again
It was really hard scraping this all off my thumb is sore from the pressure.
It looks OK not quite as good as I wanted... I am thinking about the next move....
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 by michael mott - 1:8 scale - SMALL
Thanks for all the fine comments and encouragements.
Build part 34
The cockpit area planks have been trimmed to withing a 1/64 of the cockpit stringer and the longest planks cleaned up a bit.
Now the planks are getting shorter and will go a bit faster.
All of the billets have been curved ready for splitting.
gluing progresses
Something I have been thinking about is to finish gluing all the forward planks including the king plank then do a preparatory sanding. Next using a razor blade like a putty knife and forcing a thickened glue into the remaining space for the caulking. I was wondering if anyone has thickened up the glue with the Costello dust and how it responded.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from G.L. in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Hi Vaddoc, I was not able to avoid "dog ears" as you say. I had to trim the edges a few times to remove excess material as it closed up Also I used some heavy needle nosed pliers a fer times to flatten out a couple of areas at the corners that were beginning to fold. I do not have the proper tools for serious metal smithing in a jewelers sense, so the final form is a bit crude. Sorry I did not take a few more pictures of some of the steps especially the trimming, to remove the excess, it was a lot of concentration during the work.
Oh yes lots of stuff, And that is what is so great about this site I learn so much from all the wonderful things that the other members do.
Oh oh.... I see another gauntlet....
I was looking at the web regarding stoves and it seems like the one in Integrity is a Taylor Stove there are some good photographs, it was also interesting reading about the pros and cons of the different fuel types, Old Style Alcohol, New Style Pressure Alcohol , plus the kerosene /diesel types and the LPG gas ones.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from cog in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
I had a long chat with the owner and he reminded me that we were on a budget with this refit so I mentioned that I would try to find a used copper sink, I found one on MYBAY it was the right price.
Checked the fit
Ok so here's how I did it
Cut out a bit of copper sheet
made up a former from some scrap maple 2x1.5x 3/4 then sanded it smooth. Annealed the copper and started bashing
Many annealings and bashings later with a leather mallet
and more bashings couple of different hammers but mostly with a too big ball pein.
A couple of clean up hammerings and then cleaned up the top and dropped it into the pickle .
I picked up the gauntlet Druxey you have a habit of dropping it.😉
I'm not going down that other rabbit hole
Greg I think I read an article about that Model in a Scale ships or similar magazine I seem to recall it had gold and silver fittings.
Eberhard, I have not figured it out yet I will be doing a bit of searching to see if I can find some better pictures of the type that is in Integrity.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from billocrates in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
A little more fiddling with the design of the kitchen/chart area with some card mock ups.
Not much to say about these pics other than it is fiddly work putting these card bits in and out, but they will help me build the wooden equivalents. I think that I will drape mold the sink out of styrene then spray it silver. My silver smith friend would cringe if she hear me say that.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from Tony Hunt in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Ah yes..... more, bigger, better!
The issues of being land locked and with shallow lakes around my neck of the woods. I have built and sailed 2 full sized sailboats and recently gave away the last one Maria.
I have watched with great admiration the likes of Luke Powell build beautiful cutters. Perhaps in another life.
I was just thinking about why I do the work that I do this morning as I woke up, and I must say that there is really only one answer and that is because it makes me happy to be mucking about with ideas about how to do this or that with a bit of wood or brass or watercolour paint. Having the time to think about these things is a luxury that I know is not accessible to many, and that bothers me.
One of the joys of this forum for me is being able to watch and follow along many of the builds both simple and complex that are presented here. I read a comment about life from an author of a new book this morning "Use Less Share More" It sums up for me many of the things that I follow on this forum. Yesterday when I showed the beautiful curved lines in a bit of crab apple pruning gives me as much pleasure as spending an Hour being awe struck by the beauty and complexity of Doris's Royal Katherine made of paper and card. or GB's little fishing vessel . I learn from each. It is such a wonderful journey this learning thing.
So if you had told me in 1976 that I would be using bits of this 2 foot log of maple in a model of a sailboat that I had would be working on for 8 or more years, I would have said, hmmmm...interesting, where is your crystal ball?
Off now to fiddle with a few bits of maple.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from Psyi in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Thanks for all the likes and looks.
Just a small update regarding the design of the steps
The bottom set will be removable and held with a couple of simple latches, the upper set will have the middle two steps attached to the panel which is an access to the space under the cockpit and aft of the hull. Still working out the quarter berths.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from billocrates in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Thanks for the kind words.
working on the access to the interior, the companionway steps are going to be set up differently that I had originally planned.
I am now using a few scraps of some different figured maple, instead of the mahogany ones. The treads are from an off-cut of fiddle-back figured maple and the sidewalls from the old maple log. I rather like the soft curve on the steps into integrity and so have used the same motif.
The rear wall of the cabin will be fixed and will act as an anchor for the components of the kitchen area and the new steps, Only the bottom 3 panels and the long cross beam are glued in at the moment, because I am still making design decisions at the moment for the upper section of the steps. The floor hooks under the wall at the stern end.
This is fiddly work! I don't know how you folks who build the large 3 mast ships with all the cannon stuff and hardware do it. If I drop something it is pretty easy to fish it out. So kudos to you all who build all the deck beams and hanging knees etc, I think they would be carrying me out in a straight jacket.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from billocrates in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Thanks everyone for the wonderfully encouraging comments and likes.
In order to capture the rods I decided that a handle could act as both the means to rotate from the inside and also act as the capture. First a disk of 1/2 inch brass was turned down to 3/16 for about 1/8 (1") and two holes .031" x .030" deep to match the pins were drilled and a clearance hole through the centre for a countersunk 00x 90 machine screw. then it was parted off the bar.
This was positioned onto the rear side of the spindle and the position marked for the full extension of the rods with a sharpie.
Next the surplus was removed with the jewelers saw.
and was then filed and polished to the final shape.
the door plate was pinned into position prior to placing the door knob.
then placed into the opening to check size.
The rods are cut to their final length.
and the outside
Now for some supper.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from Psyi in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Bob, so I'm guessing that Stirling and Sons would have probably not have liked your comment. That said they could have been cleverly disguised latch handles that needed a slight twist to open them, by having the top rotate a 1/2 inch or less sort of like a lever type handle only vertical.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from billocrates in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Now I know why Kitchen reno's and rebuilds are so expensive.
Time for a coffee break, My arms ache from all that handsawing.
Michael
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michael mott reacted to G.L. in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Michael, is there something you can't make? 😵
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michael mott reacted to wefalck in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Now you have to do the copper pots for the pantry as well
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michael mott got a reaction from Tomasz B in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
I had a long chat with the owner and he reminded me that we were on a budget with this refit so I mentioned that I would try to find a used copper sink, I found one on MYBAY it was the right price.
Checked the fit
Ok so here's how I did it
Cut out a bit of copper sheet
made up a former from some scrap maple 2x1.5x 3/4 then sanded it smooth. Annealed the copper and started bashing
Many annealings and bashings later with a leather mallet
and more bashings couple of different hammers but mostly with a too big ball pein.
A couple of clean up hammerings and then cleaned up the top and dropped it into the pickle .
I picked up the gauntlet Druxey you have a habit of dropping it.😉
I'm not going down that other rabbit hole
Greg I think I read an article about that Model in a Scale ships or similar magazine I seem to recall it had gold and silver fittings.
Eberhard, I have not figured it out yet I will be doing a bit of searching to see if I can find some better pictures of the type that is in Integrity.
Michael
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michael mott got a reaction from Mark Pearse in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
I had a long chat with the owner and he reminded me that we were on a budget with this refit so I mentioned that I would try to find a used copper sink, I found one on MYBAY it was the right price.
Checked the fit
Ok so here's how I did it
Cut out a bit of copper sheet
made up a former from some scrap maple 2x1.5x 3/4 then sanded it smooth. Annealed the copper and started bashing
Many annealings and bashings later with a leather mallet
and more bashings couple of different hammers but mostly with a too big ball pein.
A couple of clean up hammerings and then cleaned up the top and dropped it into the pickle .
I picked up the gauntlet Druxey you have a habit of dropping it.😉
I'm not going down that other rabbit hole
Greg I think I read an article about that Model in a Scale ships or similar magazine I seem to recall it had gold and silver fittings.
Eberhard, I have not figured it out yet I will be doing a bit of searching to see if I can find some better pictures of the type that is in Integrity.
Michael