shiloh

Sorry gentlemen,  it's definitely not Tremendous.  I have the as-built draught of her for my current project,  with the name written on her counter.  However,  I chose her after considering many others,  one of which was HMS Cumberland,  which is what the draught in the background is of.  The stern view of Cumberland also shows the name,  so there cannot be any doubt.
 
All the best,
 
Mark P

Don't care who you are, copyright protection should never exceed the effort and expense that the holder has placed into making a claim of protection. Really think the word copyright, will have any meaning more than ego when everyone has those words or a symbol automatically placed on everything they do. Reaches a point where it becomes graffiti. Making the effort required to obtain a patent, the same for obtaining a copyright that is in recorded in the public record, should provide defensible protection for a period of 20 years, no longer. Does not take long for anything that is overdone to become useless, so change the laws so copyrighting is more than just hoping for a windfall or a method of saying hooray for me. Been shot at and had rocks thrown at me, 'let the games begin', my opinion on this matter is embedded.
jud

Jud,
 
Given the way things are, laws trump opinion.   So we gotta' deal with the laws.   

I examined my model boat work station a bit more thoroughly.   I seem to have  to much tool duplication like several tweezers, Xacto knives,files of all kinds and sizes, same for sanding boards and measuring devices., Various drills all mounted  with spare bitts in separate containers. I save table saw scraps left overs in a jar which I find useful in making small parts etc.   Various small artist brushes reside in a handy jar. In defense of my clutterholic, I must say that I rarely loose store bought fittings as they are stored in small containers further housed in an old cigar box. They are guarded by swivel guns, ( not loaded of course ) but the key to the guns access I will not reveal here.   I did construct years ago a tiered carousel with appropriate holes for various tools and a lower compartments for small stuff. It worked quite well for some time .... then I became aware of Micro-mark tool catalog.  Well ....you know the rest
 
Now by contrast my  regular work shop for full sized boats and " The Admiral" type projects is very neat  with all hand tools up on a peg board. So go figure.
 
SOS
 
PS a possible solution is to keep all the tools out of reach . That way i have to get up to obtain them so then I get a bit of added exercise.
 
I forgot to mention  numerous pliers,hammers and saws. I found a place for them in  two drawers beneath the tiny space left for the model to be built is on.
 

Sometimes, even out in the wide open spaces tools in your pocket are not safe from critters. Wife had a horse that liked to steal the hoof file while I was using a hoof knife on his hoof. Kept the hoof file in my rear pocket so I could grab it and not need to put the hoof down and go git it. He would grab it and hold it up, way above my head and grin while I was hoping and pleading with him to give it back without dropping it on me, the tone of my voice seemed to change when I got the file back in my hands, but he kept on grinning, those who have been around horses know what I mean by grinning.  He was named Shiloh which is my wife's user name here.
jud

Hello Greg and well come. There is a hidden idea inside  which will be exposed later
 
 
 
Thanks Patrick. I knew that this epilogue will come, only do not know when 
 
 
 
 
Thanks Mark, I hope too
 
And here is main idea
 

 
Idea is to spread and wide force from point where a screw go through planks to a rib and hull
 
Wooden pieces are of bamboo and linden (? - toothpicks), and white glue keep them very strong ( large size of glued surface with many small pieces)

Sometimes, even out in the wide open spaces tools in your pocket are not safe from critters. Wife had a horse that liked to steal the hoof file while I was using a hoof knife on his hoof. Kept the hoof file in my rear pocket so I could grab it and not need to put the hoof down and go git it. He would grab it and hold it up, way above my head and grin while I was hoping and pleading with him to give it back without dropping it on me, the tone of my voice seemed to change when I got the file back in my hands, but he kept on grinning, those who have been around horses know what I mean by grinning.  He was named Shiloh which is my wife's user name here.
jud

sos
 
You do not need any help I promised myself I would not be overwhelmed by clutter. A place for everything and everything in its place.
 
It created a huge problem I could never find anything. I was missing a mini-screwdriver and was accusing my wife of putting it up when she started laughing. She said and I  quote "fool did you look in your hand!"  true story.
 
I now love my clutter where I can find everything sooner or later Don't despair your good.
 
John

Sometimes, even out in the wide open spaces tools in your pocket are not safe from critters. Wife had a horse that liked to steal the hoof file while I was using a hoof knife on his hoof. Kept the hoof file in my rear pocket so I could grab it and not need to put the hoof down and go git it. He would grab it and hold it up, way above my head and grin while I was hoping and pleading with him to give it back without dropping it on me, the tone of my voice seemed to change when I got the file back in my hands, but he kept on grinning, those who have been around horses know what I mean by grinning.  He was named Shiloh which is my wife's user name here.
jud

What a litigious world we live in today. Lots of land mines out there, for sure.
While I'm no lawyer, I wouldn't be surprised if some people/companies use strong-arm tactics to extort money from people whether the law would actually support their claims or not. Just the threat of having to defend yourself in a lawsuit is enough to cause many of us to pay off, just to mitigate the damage.
It is well known there are many such companies out there who will do exactly that.
All that being said, the most sage advice is likely what the previous poster just said...unless you took the picture yourself, don't post it. 
 
Craig

JerseyCity Frankie, liked your post and the video, what really made it stand out in my mind was the last comment about shedding water. Temporarily partially furling sails, like post # 9 does make a bucket out of them but being only a method used for short time, useful, besides those people knew about the effects of water inside of a tightly rolled sail, hence the tucks under the skin, and one hanging with water troughs folded into the mix and avoided making those mistakes.
 
jud 

Re. the furled sails of Columbia and Cuauhtemoc, posted by Tadeusz, some foreign training ships tend to display their sails like this at Tall Ships events. The skipper of a vessel I was on asked one of their captains, at one of these events, why they left them like this and he said that it was because it looked 'artistic'. Our skipper thought it looked untidy and unseamanlike and believed that the sails should have been given a proper 'harbour stow.' I have to say that I agree – there's nothing more pleasing than a well stowed sail.
 
Frankie is quite right about their actual stowing, although I would point out that the wind is also a factor in the way they are furled. I have stowed a few sails in my time and the mate, or whoever is in charge, was usually at pains to furl the sail properly, especially at sea where the wind can get into the sail and open it all out. Sometimes the crew would have to do it all over again, if he wasn't satisfied, and many of them had bruised knuckles afterwards!

JerseyCity Frankie, liked your post and the video, what really made it stand out in my mind was the last comment about shedding water. Temporarily partially furling sails, like post # 9 does make a bucket out of them but being only a method used for short time, useful, besides those people knew about the effects of water inside of a tightly rolled sail, hence the tucks under the skin, and one hanging with water troughs folded into the mix and avoided making those mistakes.
 
jud 

JerseyCity Frankie, liked your post and the video, what really made it stand out in my mind was the last comment about shedding water. Temporarily partially furling sails, like post # 9 does make a bucket out of them but being only a method used for short time, useful, besides those people knew about the effects of water inside of a tightly rolled sail, hence the tucks under the skin, and one hanging with water troughs folded into the mix and avoided making those mistakes.
 
jud 

JerseyCity Frankie, liked your post and the video, what really made it stand out in my mind was the last comment about shedding water. Temporarily partially furling sails, like post # 9 does make a bucket out of them but being only a method used for short time, useful, besides those people knew about the effects of water inside of a tightly rolled sail, hence the tucks under the skin, and one hanging with water troughs folded into the mix and avoided making those mistakes.
 
jud 

I like this video. It starts with a sail that has been Clewed Up and then we see the sailors clime onto the yard and watch as they take all the steps to manipulate the sail into the much smaller and neater Furl.  Its still a bit difficult to see what is going on since all parts of the sail look alike. The lead blocks for the Clews and the Buntlines , the ones attached to the yard itself, determine where a lot of the canvas will wind up at the end since it is at these points that the foot of the sail is brought to the yard. Notice that most of the canvas starts out hanging between the two Buntline lead blocks on the yard and the Clews of the sail are out of sight on the aft side of the sail and masked from view untill the midpoint of the video when they are brought up on top of everything else on the yard. Not easy to see is that the crew is tucking much of the folded canvas under a "skin" of canvas- the part that will be visible on the outside of the furl. EVERYTHING but the Clews gets tucked under this skin which is then made as nearly as tight to a drum as a single membrane covering everything else. The skin is more areodynamic and will also shed water better.  

Are the "stops" then the same thing that many of us have been calling "sills"?  Between the frames and not completely covered by the planking?  I was also under the impression that with full lids, the planking would stop short of the sides (linings or frames).  The lid when closed would end up flush (or nearly flush) with the planking.

Dear Dr. Per,
   
  Thanks for your note! Its so encouraging to get a note from the outside world as I am very isolated here. 
 
My location is   9°48'48.99"S   28°46'1.12"E 
 To sum up my complicated life I could say I am an MK. Traveled and lived in 14 countries to end up in Zambia.
I have a wife and 6 children. Five of which are in Texas most in University. I only remain with my last born son of 18 years who I will be taking to the States very soon.
 I have been in this country now the longest of 14 years! But 8 in our current position.
I have now started an orphanage for vulnerable babies that cant survive without our help. The oldest is 11 years old now and will continue be with us while doing his school. Our intake of orphans is only for those who are 2 years and below.
I have many projects going on as I am Jack of all trades and master of none. 
My last hobby was an old fiberglass boat I found at the bottom of a river. I restored it and is now at my farm located 1 hour south of our orphanage.
 So my new hobby is this USS Constitution. I will be building my own house and I think a boat like this would look great above the fireplace.
 I love the water and spend time in canoes and boat as much as I get time for.
 I am writing a book of my life and adventures I have come across. My wife helping me along the way of course.
 You can see my photos on facebook or my 2 web sites, www.missionaryfamily.com and www.kazembeorphanage.com
 Any more questions?
Tom 
  

I might point out that not all plastic modellers like to weather their models. This kind of practice is most common in those who make armor models. Many people who make cars like to present them in showroom condition. As do some plane modellers, especially those who make passenger aircraft. And - dare I say, many plastic ship modellers also like to present their models with no weathering.
 
If you have ever seen a real life ship berthed in a harbour, you will see that they are impeccably maintained - especially military ships. As for our sailships, all those sailors had to do in their idle time was to scrub the decks and keep the place clean.
 
So - I will apply weathering where it needs it (sails). But given I am modelling a military sailship, the hull and deck itself should look impeccable. This is not a slovenly merchant ship!

Ships and boats are expensive, kind of like your car. Owners go to a lot of trouble to keep them looking good as you probably do for your car. Sitting at the curb you probably have it looking nice, out on the road in dirty conditions for a while, it will look rough until you clean it up. I expect a model, sitting in a stand to look new, if a part of a Dorma, she should reflect the conditions depicted. Weathering a stand alone model has no appeal to me, others feel differently, so, as indicated in the above post, do what you wish, it is you that needs to be pleased, not me or anyone else.
jud

Spent some time aboard and part of my work was keeping her presentable, at least the guns, she was 24 years old then. She is still serving in the South China Sea, looking a little weathered. I would want the clean appearance in a model of her.
 
Looked again the vessel indicated as the Sierra Madre, ( USS Harnett County LST 821 ) came from a group of photos on the net labeled for that ship and I grabbed it without looking closer, she is not the Sierra Madre. The lase photo is, you can see the difference in the superstructure, tripod mast, more guns forward and the cargo boom for handling PBR's.
jud

Ships and boats are expensive, kind of like your car. Owners go to a lot of trouble to keep them looking good as you probably do for your car. Sitting at the curb you probably have it looking nice, out on the road in dirty conditions for a while, it will look rough until you clean it up. I expect a model, sitting in a stand to look new, if a part of a Dorma, she should reflect the conditions depicted. Weathering a stand alone model has no appeal to me, others feel differently, so, as indicated in the above post, do what you wish, it is you that needs to be pleased, not me or anyone else.
jud

I suspect that Vince P started this thread with reference to my build. To answer your question Vince, the reason I am chucking all those metal pieces away is because: when I bought the kit, I was not ready to scratch build. Did not own the tools, was not mentally prepared, lacked confidence. Prior to the Royal William, my most ambitious build was the HMS Bounty, and even that had its fair share of mistakes. I was not sure I could tackle something like the RW, let alone scratch build it.
 
I decided to purchase the RW. I would try my hand at scratch building as many pieces as possible - and if I fail, I could always use the kit supplied parts. As it turns out, my attempts at scratch building most of the pieces seem to be working all right. I like the results more than the kit parts anyway. Trust me, I am completely objective and unsympathetic towards my own efforts - if something I make is inferior to the kit part, it goes into the bin and I use the kit part.

Whatever pleases anyone who buys a kit, then makes their own parts, tickles me plum silly! What brings pleasure to the model maker is all that counts. If others find fault with that, let them find pleasure in being ignored.
jud

Spent some time aboard and part of my work was keeping her presentable, at least the guns, she was 24 years old then. She is still serving in the South China Sea, looking a little weathered. I would want the clean appearance in a model of her.
 
Looked again the vessel indicated as the Sierra Madre, ( USS Harnett County LST 821 ) came from a group of photos on the net labeled for that ship and I grabbed it without looking closer, she is not the Sierra Madre. The lase photo is, you can see the difference in the superstructure, tripod mast, more guns forward and the cargo boom for handling PBR's.
jud