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CDW reacted to alde in Providence 1775 by lmagna - Artesania Latina - Continental sloop kit-bashed from colonial schooner Independence 1776 kit - First wooden POB ship build
Lou, planking is one of those things we all scratch our heads over. There are so many tutorials explaining it in different terms that it gets confusing. That’s were a kit or plans with pre spiled planks comes in handy. Once you see how the planks are formed and lay on the hull it all clicks. The little paper back booklet put out by Model Shipways is a great reference. Have you used tic strips yet? Once I learned that little trick things kinda made more sense to me.
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CDW reacted to lmagna in Providence 1775 by lmagna - Artesania Latina - Continental sloop kit-bashed from colonial schooner Independence 1776 kit - First wooden POB ship build
Now you done and did it Dowmer, starting to add authenticity and documentation to the build!
I do have a few questions though. when he uses "2 strakes 16" wide" does he mean combined width or total width? Where would the 3 X 8" rubbing rail be located on the wale, top,bottom, or somewhere in between? I always thought the wale WAS the rubbing rail hence It's location along the widest part of the hull above the waterline and thicker lumber. On the other sizes I am hoping they are all thickness measurements and not width as I really didn't want to go out and buy a bunch of lumber, (One of the reasons I started with altering the kit rather than starting from scratch). The wood provided is 5 mm wide working out to 9" scale width. All I can say at this point is that the 5 mm "LOOKS" OK. (Remember TLAR?)
Keep it coming, I am in desperate need of the education!
Hi Al
I have to be critical of myself as you guys are far too nice to tell me if I am producing a complete piece of junk, and if I am not careful I WILL get lazy and accept stuff that I know is wrong or I have the ability to do better. I know that there are others who can do it better, (Almost anyone) but I am talking about always trying for MY best, whatever that is. There is also the possibility that once the hull is fully planked it will be too late! That's my nightmare!
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CDW reacted to lmagna in Providence 1775 by lmagna - Artesania Latina - Continental sloop kit-bashed from colonial schooner Independence 1776 kit - First wooden POB ship build
Thanks for looking in Ken
How do you consider her odd shaped? In many respects she is still the same model you are building, even though I consider the AL Independence as just a larger scale model of the MS Sultana.
At this point all I have really done is remove the raised forecastle, lowered the main deck by 12 scale inches, and shortened the overall length to reflect what are considered the actual dimensions of the Providence. I admit that these dimensions are mostly based on a single painting, a couple of historic references and some research done on the late 1920s and the resulting models in several museums, but they are what I have.
In most respects at this point she is intended to represent what some refer to as a "traditional" Rhode Island sloop with some possible concessions for both speed and firepower. Please feel free to correct me if I am in your opinion heading into Never never land. There is much that no one knows about this ship. I am trying to fill in the gaps as best as I can by using common period practice to come up with a more realistic concept than has been done with the present day replica Providence. I have tried to reason out and justify every step I have made so far.
I will be watching your build very closely and hopefully gain additional knowledge from what you do as well.
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CDW reacted to src in Providence 1775 by lmagna - Artesania Latina - Continental sloop kit-bashed from colonial schooner Independence 1776 kit - First wooden POB ship build
Lou,
Coming along well. The planking looks good to my eye.
Sam
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CDW reacted to Old Collingwood in Providence 1775 by lmagna - Artesania Latina - Continental sloop kit-bashed from colonial schooner Independence 1776 kit - First wooden POB ship build
Hey - no knocking your self lou - have pride in your accomplishments every little bit of work we all do to our builds, is special and unique to us all.
I will never knock or laugh at anyones work - I went through hell with the first planking on my wood build, but its just about keeping at it.
OC.
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CDW reacted to lmagna in Providence 1775 by lmagna - Artesania Latina - Continental sloop kit-bashed from colonial schooner Independence 1776 kit - First wooden POB ship build
Thank you Sam
I didn't even think anyone was looking in here anymore as it has been so long since I posted anything.
I have been working on her believe it or not. I have been averaging about one or two planks a day and yesterday I finished the last plank and did a little design work on the keel and stem. I didn't make any updates as it really is pretty boring stuff and as this is my first attempt at "Proper" planking I thought I would just wait to post pictures until I have it done. That way I will just have to put up with being laughed at once rather than several times over the planking process.
I will be gone over the next couple of days but when I get back I will post pictures of my meager efforts, and give all interested a chance to have a good laugh, or a chance to loose their lunch! Consider this fair warning.
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CDW got a reaction from Piet in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Come to think of it, certain areas on the deck of the ship, and it's probably safe to say around all the coal chutes, there would be coal dust/staining where the frequent resupply of coal would have taken place; regardless of how much combat the ship had been in. So I need to dirty up those areas a bit before everything is all said and done. I'll have to check the model railroad section at the hobby shop for some black ballast that might be a reasonable representation for coal in this scale.
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CDW got a reaction from Piet in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Thanks, Jack.
I just found these 1:200 scale sailors at Shapeways, and ordered a set. I think I can make these work for me.
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CDW got a reaction from Piet in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Thanks Popeye.
In the particular paint scheme I am doing, I don't think the ship would have ever seen any combat yet, and not too much time at sea, either. So I don't intend to add much in the way of severe weathering or battle damage.
I want to begin looking for some 1:200 sailors, maybe from Shapeways? Want to give it a somewhat busy look by adding some action figures. Maybe could add some guys shoveling coal into a few of those "coal chute covers" on deck. Gonna look to see what I can find that's close to being period correct.
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CDW got a reaction from Piet in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Thank you, Sam. So glad to have you aboard.
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CDW got a reaction from mtaylor in 3D printer, building from scratch and tests - by cristikc
I would say that if a modeler used a 3D CAD program to design his/her model, then printed it on their 3D printer, most definitely that would be scratch building. Hands down.
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CDW reacted to Bob Cleek in 3D printer, building from scratch and tests - by cristikc
Very impressive work! I see where Dremel has come out with a 3D printer now, too. Priced around $1,800, IIRC. Now the "$64,000 Question:" Is using a 3D printer still "scratch building?" Not to start a war, or anything. Just wondering.
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CDW reacted to Moab in 3D printer, building from scratch and tests - by cristikc
Cristi; thanx for sharing!! The building and results process are VERY impressive.
The "scratch building" discussion will probably have voters on both sides. I belong to a few other sites and "I think" most members would consider using 3D printed parts part of the scratch process especially when they develop the cad files for the process. One parallel that comes to mind is that most scratch builders probably don't cast or turn the cannons they use in the scratch building process. I can't vote on this since I'm as far removed from being a scratch builder as possible...Moab
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CDW reacted to cristikc in 3D printer, building from scratch and tests - by cristikc
The first test was a box, that is one of the 5-6 stl given for tests.
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CDW reacted to cristikc in 3D printer, building from scratch and tests - by cristikc
A quickly tour in pictures of how was made, in about 8 hours (with test and fist tuning.
All parts were covered with gray protection, and i have to take away, it was a lot of time used for this "job".
Also you have to take care to all the arrangements, and the 90deg, and paralel position of the parts.
And in final i had "Printer ready"
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CDW reacted to Jack12477 in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Those look even better than RR figure, CDW.
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CDW got a reaction from coxswain in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Thanks, Jack.
I just found these 1:200 scale sailors at Shapeways, and ordered a set. I think I can make these work for me.
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CDW got a reaction from popeye the sailor in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Thanks Popeye.
In the particular paint scheme I am doing, I don't think the ship would have ever seen any combat yet, and not too much time at sea, either. So I don't intend to add much in the way of severe weathering or battle damage.
I want to begin looking for some 1:200 sailors, maybe from Shapeways? Want to give it a somewhat busy look by adding some action figures. Maybe could add some guys shoveling coal into a few of those "coal chute covers" on deck. Gonna look to see what I can find that's close to being period correct.
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CDW got a reaction from popeye the sailor in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Thank you, Sam. So glad to have you aboard.
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CDW got a reaction from popeye the sailor in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Thanks, Jack.
I just found these 1:200 scale sailors at Shapeways, and ordered a set. I think I can make these work for me.
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CDW reacted to Jack12477 in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
CDW, N-scale Model Railroad is 1:160 , might be close enough, if not, Z-scale is 1:220. You might find a set with Railroader workers.
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CDW reacted to src in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Getting caught up here finally, looks great CDW! I am constantly amazed by what is available for plastic today, you guys really set the bar up there for the rest of us.
Sam
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CDW got a reaction from Piet in IJN Mikasa by CDW - Wave Models - 1:200 scale - PLASTIC
Keep whittlin' away at this thing...
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