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Well I am committed now. Hammock stanchions are glued on the port hand rail. I placed them with a dot of CA just to get them on but then went back and epoxied them. I'm suspecting they will get a fair amount of abuse and I don't want to have to try and reglue them later. After the epoxy dries I will add one of those webbing with sticks contraptions I showed a few posts back.
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Got a lot done in the last 24 hours. Deck is planked, stained and first coat of varnish. I used 1/4" x 3/32" boxwood sticks, miscalculated and ran out before I was finished. That was disheartening as it was early this morning, I was on a roll and had planned to finish planking. Fortunately I had a 3/32" sheet and was able to rip enough from that to get the rest. Staining (Minwax Provincial) really showed up all the spots where I didn't sand the glue off well enough. I was going to sand the stain off and try again but then I thought for a tugboat, all the spots kinda add to the ambiance. So I left them. I used a satin finish on the deck rather than the glossy that is on the sides and bottom. Got to thinking, all the wood is covered now so I could put it in the water tomorrow. We'll see. Pix are a little dark this time, not sure why.
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Don't feel too bad Matt - 0.5 is very thin and difficult to work with. At that thickness most wood can easily crack or fray. You could try filling your gaps but there can be some evils involved with that, particularly if you are leaving the hull natural. Some real fine sand paper or 600 sanding sponge could smooth some of that out without sanding thru the veneer.
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Don, E.J., thanks for the feedback. I have a lot of boxwood strips so I imagine I'll go with those - maybe darkened a little bit. I have some walnut and maple sheets on order - I could make planks from those. But I'm not sure when they will arrive and I would like to get this build finished this weekend. I definitely want the tires, however that must be a hot item in the model car world. Lot's of sites have them and lot's of sites are out of stock. Had not thought about the tires being useful, but you are right E.J. And I do plan on this tug being a rescue boat for my RC sailboats.
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Work presses onward. Hatch covers are in place. Makes me wonder how much storage there really was. I guess just enough for powder & balls for the guns. My understanding is that once in position, the rowers would take up muskets but I don't know where those might be stashed in the interim. I've started on the gun platforms. A little planking in the round. It'll be nice to get those big holes in the deck covered. These are going to look cool rigged with the tackles to rotate the platform. She's coming along.
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Well I did pick up some Titebond III today. I believe planking is the only option now. Too much overspray from painting the hull. If the deck was solid wood I'd be sanding right now, but it's plywood with a thin mahogany veneer. If you do much sanding on it you go right thru the veneer. It should look pretty nice planked. I'm thinking some pretty wide strips, maybe 1/4". I still want to get some model tires to hang around it.
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Just noticed the pintle & gudgeon hinges. Nice idea!
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I got an early start this evening. The hawse holes are cut, the bowsprit is in (if you can call it a bowsprit) and the bulwarks are painted. You would think I would have learned my lesson by now about painting in mid build. It's bound to get scuffed up and will require a final coat. She's got nice lines. I'm hoping to finish the hatches tonite.
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Hey Steve - Thank you. The grunt work is almost finished, then it's time for the fun stuff. The guns will be interesting. They are on a sliding carriage mounted to a revolving palette. I have to wonder about firing one to either side - the boat must have really rocked something fierce.
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She keeps getting better and better Mike. I'm still waiting to see how you deal with the cap rails.
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With the deck glued to the hull I couldn't resist doing a little painting and varnishing. A long way from finished, but she is taking shape. I am one step closer to planking the deck. Overspray from painting the hull got all over the main deck. Lots of little black dots. It will probably sand off but I can leave it if I plank. The one scary thing about that is using epoxy to glue down the sticks. I tried that on my T37 sailboat and it was a mess. As much as I rave about this epoxy, it is extremely difficult to use for planking. I've also thought about adding some brass hand rails in a few places. Not sure if it would just get beat up down the road. Was also thinking a bunch of model car tires around the hull would look cool. I'm tempted to fill up the tub and see how she floats
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I have had (and still have) some serious reservations about the rigging for this build. Not so much about the complexity involved but more about the time needed to do it. I've been working this build since October 2015 and there have been some major life changes along the way. My needs from this hobby have changed because of that, at least temporarily. I want to accomplish tasks quickly, with something to show for it. A little instant gratification. Spending the next 6 months on rigging is just not an appealing thought right now. That said, I did pick up the Lauck Street practicum DVD set and the rigging lessons in there seemed to have sparked my interest a little. On the other hand, I like the way Niagara looks now, with no rigging or masts. So where (or maybe how) Niagara ends up is still a big unknown right now. She will always be there, so there is no rush.
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Bet you thought this thread was dead didn't you? There's been a lot of deliberation on this build. I have a few more "deck items" to complete and then rigging. I've been thinking hammocks for way too long. But I believe it was a worthwhile endeavor. I'm still working towards something like the last prototype. No covers, just stanchions with rails, webbing, stuffed full of hammocks. I'm going off the beaten path for this but it's the look I want. That's about 15" of structure on each hand rail. Thinking ahead a bit, I think all the hammock stuff must be done before rigging. There's just too much in the way afterwards and it would complicate a relatively easy job. So now is the time! I made a few stanchions over a month ago and completely forgot how I made them, so I'm adding some pix here so I'll remember. If they help someone else, even better. I started with some 0.8 brass rod. Cut pieces just slightly over 1" long. Then with a 5/8" punch I flattened each end and some of the center. I have a small long nose pliers with the widest part of the nose being exactly the width I wanted the stanchions to be. This helped a lot with consistency. So I grab the brass right in the center with the pliers and bend each side. While still in the pliers I hammered the bend to get a reasonbly sharp 90 degree angle. Then grab the very tip and put a 90 degree bend to the outside. This creates a lip for the wood rail that will be glued to the stanchion. Clip off any excess, you hardly need anything extending outwards. One down 19 to go. I'm figuring a stanchion every 1 1/2" along the hand rail. 15" total length with a small break at the ladder. I completed all 20 last night. This morning I spent about an hour comparing them all. I lined them all up next to each other to compare width and especially height. These things MUST be very consistent. When the rail is glued to them it will become very obvious as the rail would snake up or down at each glue point if the height is off. The webbing. The material is called tulle. Available in fabric stores and online. I cut a strip 1 1/4" wide. This stuff is very thin. The white tulle is darn near impossible to see on a white surface. Use a piece of dark construction paper underneath. The sticks here will be the rail that is glued to the stanchion. They are glued (I used Elmer's) to the tulle. The sticks are thin enough that they will bend as the hand rail curves at the bow. I opted not to solder a small post to the center of the stanchions. While it might give some additional strength to the installation it seems like a lot of extra effort to me. In the case of Niagara, the stanchions need to sit flat on the rail, not elevated at all as there is NO extra clearance between the stanchions and the shrouds. Learning what I have about epoxy from my tug boat build, I believe a spot of that will provide enough strength when mounting the stanchions. The only negative side is I better get it right the first time, because tearing off an epoxied stanchion would likely damage the rail. So, slow & steady with several walk throughs before the real thing.
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Hull is officially finished. I feel like I said that before. I played around with coloring filler so it would not be so obvious after staining. I could have done better and I am still working on that, but it's a side project now. The white you see in the pic is some Tamiya filler. I was going that route at first, then got sidetracked with the color thing. The hull will be painted white below the water line. It was an interesting weekend - working on 3 different builds. Sometimes all within the same hour. OK, 4 builds if you count re-rigging one of the RC sailboats. The stern platform is finished. It kind of funky, but it is what the instructions called for. I've also finished the cap rail. The stern platform piece was laser cut, the rest I had to make. I used several pieces on each side to get around the curvature at the bow & stern. A simple scarph joint was used to join the pieces. There's still filler on the joints. The cap rail will be painted black like the bulwark plank. I'm about to drill the hawse holes in the bow and then the bowsprit is next. Other than being short a few walnut sticks, I have no complaints with this kit. The instructions along with illustrations have been adequate. I've barely touched the plans. I still think it's going to be a real unusual but nice looking build when it's completed.
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mikiek replied to mikiek's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
I had not run into that Bob. I'm finding that even with a darker filler mix the hull appears fairly lite from all the dust. I brush it with a paint brush but it is still lighter. What is working for me is a damp rag wipe down after sanding. -
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That was one of the sites I hit. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. I have learned something -
Don - although it interferes with my model building I am having fun with it. It's kinda cool building a boat that you can actually get wet. I have their tri-maran on order. Bob - this guy Will is a wizard with epoxy. All kinds of interesting tricks. And he explains them all very well - both in his videos and the kit instructions. I've learned so much from doing his builds. As a for instance, I think my old problems with the 15 minute 2 tube epoxy was not mixing it well enough. Will is adamant about that. Used to be the 15 minute stuff was still gooey the next day. I know I added the proper amount of hardener, but if it ain't mixed in it ain't gonna work. Will stresses 30-60 seconds of mixing before use. Anyone that has dealt with Tippiecanoe will tell you they are a top notch outfit. Great products and great customer support.
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I will file those away for future use. My next few kits are either painted hulls or walnut. For walnut I believe I will stay with the crystals. It appears that there is a defined set of colors for the universal tints? Went to 2 sites and both had the same colors but different brands. -
You know Per, I had been toying around with the planking idea. I guess even a modern day tug might be wooden planked? It would add some interest, but it would also cover up the nicest piece of wood in the build. You know how that mahogany plywood looks with a slick coat of varnish on it. I was also looking around for something that I could use to make the round windows look more like portholes. Some sort of round frame. A few life preservers and some rope coils would be interesting as well. And there really is a rescue arm although not hydraulic. Once I get that on the boat I can try sailing in a few new places that I have been scared to try. If the T37 gets stuck the tug can come get it.
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I have glued the deck to the hull! This was an interesting exercise as I had to mix more epoxy for this than I have ever used before. It's a race against the clock to get it in place before it thickens up. I kind of like the technique used for this as well. It's clear coat and thick stuff as usual although the thick stuff needs to be a little thinner than usual - barely runny. The reason for this is that you apply the epoxy to the inside upper edge of the hull, slap the deck on and then turn it upside down. Gravity pulls the epoxy down and it ends up settling at the joint between the deck and hull, making a nice fillet. Once again it would have been difficult to take step by step pix, so here is what I ended up with. The thing that bugs me about epoxy is that now I have to wait until tomorrow to see what it looks like Paint or varnish or both? That's what I need to decide now. I was talking to Will (Tippiecanoe owner) this afternoon and he suggested varnishing it all for now and then paint it down the road when I get the urge and the right combination. That's probably what I will do.
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Got a good thread regarding filling for a hull you're going to stain here. This came up as I had a few thin gaps in the strakes after planking. I needed to do something with them but filling something you're going to stain is quite different than filling something that will be painted.
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