Julie Mo
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We need a "Love this" button. Keith, you son reminds me of a guy I grew up with. He and his girlfriend had been living together for years and one day I asked him if they were ever going to tie the knot. He replied, "What if someone better comes along?" I responded, "How are you going to start dating another woman while living with Karen?" He put his hand to his chin in a thoughtful pose and said, "I hadn't given that part much thought." About a month later they announced they were getting married. -
Whew! Thanks Keith. Ever since I strayed I've been looking toward the sky for wayward bolts of lightning. I like that deck layout. All my experience sailing has been on "little" sailboats of 54' or less. Loads increase exponentially when LOA soars so I'd have to wing it on things like mainsheet travelers, genoa tracks and lead car system and things like that. But I have yet to see a lead car system on a maxi. How they move the lead car under load, I don't know. So there's a lot of investigation I need to do. But it's time to start packing and leave the heat behind.
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Carl, you don't know how right you are. I've never lived in a tropical/sub-tropical climate before we moved here 1-1/2 years ago but I am not convinced the heat penetrates everything, including the human skull, and the brain gets fried. Keith, that makes perfect sense. Thank you! There's still a lot of engineering and design that has to be done but when I get to that stage, that's exactly what I'll do. BTW, do you think the gods of J-Class will punish me for straying in the design direction I have? I ask you because they have obviously blessed you with great talent so you must be in tight with them and I was hoping they might tell you if they were about to smite me.
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Frank, thank you for your help but while your models are amazingly gorgeous, I just don't think I could achieve the same level of scale accuracy you do without all the preliminary work that seems so necessary for me, such as the CAD drawings. That's how my brain works. Part of why I want to tackle the stick build is because I want to see if I can recreate what's in my mind's eye. I could be way over my head but I thought that too when I decided to make my first scratch-build guitar. After it was completed, it was so satisfying I made three more. While we're gone I'll be given a lot of time to think about this... Thanks again for the help!
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Love the detailed photos, Keith! I've learned so much! When the time comes that you start posting videos on YouTube, I will be your first subscriber. How we'd love to see your skills in action. If I am being obnoxious, just tell me to shut up.
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Frank, I'm new to this so I always appreciate input from experienced builders like you. Tell me if this plan is flawed but what I was thinking is I'd make the framing for the raised cabin and then lay the planking on the main deck. Next would be to plank the top of the raised cabin and then plank the sides. Would that be a proper order? But first I have to figure out how to build the framing for the raised cabin. This is what I've been working on The drawing is a view of the S130 interior, as if you were standing in the lower saloon and looking at the companionway. The intent was to create a two-piece laminate for the cabin frame. After the glue dried and the first section was placed where it might actually go, it became apparent it would probably be better to stick build it on the model. Kit framing will need to be cut out and I really don't know how that will affect the structural integrity over the long haul. The 7# of shot ballast may work against that effort. The build will be put on hold for a few weeks. A dear friend in CT has invited us up there to escape the Florida heat. We're leaving Monday.
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Some time? Yes. But when depends on how long it takes me to recreate what's in my mind's eye. Right now I see mahogany framing for the raised cabin. The challenge here is to determine how many frames there should be and then building them so as to recreate the look of the S130 raised cabin. The plan is to at least build the upper level interior and if that's successful to build the lower level saloon. Yet another challenge set before me. Masochism must be in my blood.
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Thanks, Carl. As for the 44, Yachtworld, for some strange reason, crashes Firefox repeatedly. I think the boat gods are telling me something - "If you can't afford to buy, you better fly!"
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Keith, every time I see your work I am speechless. Just amazing! Thank you for sharing those sailing pictures. The engineering on the Brunel bridge is really interesting. Never seen anything like it. And catching the raising of the main on the Bristol Cutter was very cool!
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Wow! That winch turned out beautiful, Frank! Nice work! Yes, I do have a chuck, which is designed to go at the other end for drilling into the center of a piece. But I could secure it in the 3 jaw lathe chuck. Never would have considered that without seeing you do it. Thank you for the tip, Frank!
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Paul, you have quite the collection of tools and supplies but I'm sure you're missing something. I just can't think of what that might be.
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When the mind's door opens to solve a problem, one realizes the solution can be applied to other problems. This time the problem was how to cut the thin plywood accurately without a scroll saw. The router came into play again. By using a 3/64" diameter bit, I was able to easily cut the curve of the raised deck. 1/2" foam board saves the bit from needless wear and makes cutting easier. Not CNC accuracy but close enough to the line to leave little work for the fine tuning. I switched to a 1/32" diameter bit and cut the first glass out of the oval forward of the raised deck. Then I realized if the glass will be flush with the deck planking, I need to return to the drawing board and design a solution that will accomplish the flush appearance.
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I picked up a 1/2" aluminum rod the other day. I'll set the lathe up and see how my turning tools work on aluminum. This is from my last house but I have it only partially set up here and it's in the garage (HOT!)
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You really are coming along, Paul. And you make it look so easy.
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I got the gaps filled in with balsa, routed it out and fine tuned it so the parts fit.
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Carl, you have to stop egging me on about selling the house and buying a sailboat. I'm very weak willed when it comes to that, you know. All common sense drains from my brain with vortex-like force. And there is no cure because it's in my heritage. My last name is derived from the Gaelic words "Muir" (Sea) and "Cearbach" (Skilled). See? I'm sea-skilled. Thank goodness you distracted me back to the model. We're on the same page with the crew and helm cockpits. This morning I glued some balsa filler in the areas where the pits will be. I'll be heading back soon to rout them out and then I'll glue in wood planks. For the trim, I'm going to take a stab at making laminated pieces that will rise above the deck. Now I have to get away from the computer so Yachtworld doesn't suck me in again.
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I had a long break on my model (because other things took precedent) and I was beginning to feel guilty because I have said many times I will finish it. Then I read others who are far more accomplished than I can ever dream to be had taken long sabbaticals on a model they started, some for many years. But they always go back to finish. You never fail until you stop trying.
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Don, it's a plunge base for a Dremel tool. Turns the Dremel into a mini router. Yes Carl, I too am afflicted with that condition.
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I added a brace for the crew cockpit and routed it out to accept the seating. Still have to rout the brace deeper between the seats. In the photo below, at the forward edge of the cockpit sole there is nothing underneath the plywood. That's next on the to do list. Should the cockpit be built outside the hull and inserted or built as part of the hull? Still lots left to do here but it's been fun doing something creative.
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Have you ever sought out a solution but drew a blank all the while knowing the answer is right in front of you? That's been my last 48 hours. I knew I had a way to cut into the frames of the hull to allow for the modifications but drew a complete blank. I get up at 7 this morning, walk into the workshop, look around and then the light bulb turns on. If it's good enough for guitar inlays, it should be good enough for modeling. The bit is 1/8" diameter. I have bits that go to 1/32", if needed. I was doing this by eye so I started out with light passes. Rough work complete. From here I used the edges of the plywood as a template to finish the routing. Next is to cut out the seating in the crew cockpit. I will have to add a brace at the bow end to support the deck and foot well of the cockpit, then rout that out.
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Don't encourage me, Per! I'm this close to calling a realtor! Now back to reality... The S130 deck plan scaled well. The "T" piece on the right is the floor of the cockpit. The other one is at the seat level. I had nothing to cut horizontally through the frame. Dremel saw blades on order.
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Sometimes you need a step ladder... I've been at the helm of boats that provide an amazingly free view and some you need X-ray eyes. Nothing worse than that boat you are trying to miss running into suddenly disappears behind a raised deck or genoa. I guess it's confession time, Frank. I am an addict. A sailing addict. Since I can't feed my addiction with the good stuff, I'm doing it through modeling and I want that boat to feel bottom heavy just in case a stiff breeze blows in and... See there I go again. Last night I spent several hours perusing Yachtworld and found me a gorgeous Little Harbor 44. Next thing I was wondering is how long it would take to sell the house.
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If you mean RC model, no, it will be a dust collector. Where I'm struggling is with the classic J and the modern raised cabin deck. The raised cabin shouldn't obstruct the view of the helmsman, at least not for a racing boat, but with the almost full keel, it could only compete in the J Class. There's an F Class deck that better matches with the aesthetics But there is no raised cabin and I kind of like that look, like in your drawing. Then we're back to clashing aesthetics. I'm definitely going to do the lowered deck for seating and at the helm. Where I go from there, time will tell.
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Here's the S130 cockpit blowup of the CAD section I drew up above: The raised wood surround isn't drawn up in CAD but would be used in the model. As for the windows, I really like the flush deck windows but I'm not so sure about the side windows. It would seem more aesthetically pleasing to have windows on the front, too, and for the windows to be wider and fewer. On another note, I added 4# of shot as ballast. It doesn't seem enough weight. It would have been desirable to get the weight into as much as of the keel as possible but the moveable centerboard occupies most of that space. Maybe a trip to pick up another 2#-4# of shot will give the hull a better feel. But I do like the additional weight.
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Been doing a lot of CAD work trying to find the key to the city. This is one part 3D, one part one-line perspective of how the S130 setup might look. Still a lot of work left to be done. Dark blue lines are vertical in the cockpit and helmsman pit. Green lines represent horizontal edges and breaks between deck finishes. The brown box is a sub-pit for the 60" wheel. There would be a raised wood wrap around both the helmsman pit and cockpit. Believe it or not, the squares just before entering the companionway represent two more companionways that go down to the lower level. Please don't ask me if I am going to recreate those stairs. I've already committed the rest of my life to this.
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