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Phill Elston got a reaction from popeye the sailor in HMS Victory by gil middleton - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:72
As I am looking at Coppering the hull of my build, can I ask... Did you run the pounce wheel onto the copper plates AFTER sticking them down? If so, was that after EACH plate was fixed or after each row?
I'm building in 1:60 so I guess I'll have to work out what width tape to get.
Last questions... Did you make your copper chopper or was it bought? If you made it, what from/how?
Sorry for being a pain but I want to do the best I can. I'd already thought that butted plates just didn't seem to be authentic and had considered copper tape - which I'm thinking is going to be far less expensive than buying pre-made plates, easier than using CA adhesive and in the long run, be more pleasing to the eye.
Looking forward to reading the rest of your build. It looks impressive as hell!
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Farbror Fartyg in WW1 German Destroyers "found"...
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Tadeusz43 in WW1 German Destroyers "found"...
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Phill Elston got a reaction from jud in WW1 German Destroyers "found"...
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Phill Elston reacted to druxey in Greenwich Hospital barge of 1832 by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
Well, some progress to report. The ensign staffs are done. They were made and tapered using the usual square to octagon to round method. The trucks plus a few inches below them are painted gold. I scored around each staff to act as a stop for the paint: it was too small to mask conventionally. For those wondering why the pace has slackened a bit, I've another project to announce shortly.
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Phill Elston got a reaction from musky in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
I've also planked, "Caulked" and "nailed" the upper deck. A long and arduous, though ultimately, rewarding job! I made up an end-stop on my plank cutter to ensure that all the upper deck planks were of uniform length, which at this scale, I think I worked out to be 8cm. It seemed to work really quite well!
Time in the RN taught me that traditionally there were a couple of planking patterns used in the days that Bounty was afloat. I went for the "three butt shift". I started on the Centre Line of the deck and worked from there. I was quite chuffed that when I had reached the stern, I was only anout a quarter of a mm off the line. I only had to sand about 8 planks to get them fitting flush and nicely...
Then it was a question of how do I show the caulking between planks. I thought that picking oakum and forcing it between the planks was taking things just a LITTLE too far, so had the thought to rub one edge and one end of each plank on the graphite edge of a 4B pencil... It worked to a degree, but not as well as I'd liked. So, it was yet another tedious task of stepping in the edges of the planks. This time, I used a 4H pencil as the B grade were just too soft. I also used the 4H pencil to "dot in" all the nails...
I don't think that the results I have achieved are too bad - for a newbie!
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Elijah in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
No word from Caldercraft/Jotika yet, but to be honest, I think I'll be lucky to get anything from them at all, let alone on a Saturday, having only emailed them at 16.45 Friday.
So today, I didn't have a huge amount of time... But I progressed the galleries a little
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Phill Elston got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
No word from Caldercraft/Jotika yet, but to be honest, I think I'll be lucky to get anything from them at all, let alone on a Saturday, having only emailed them at 16.45 Friday.
So today, I didn't have a huge amount of time... But I progressed the galleries a little
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Phill Elston reacted to thomaslambo in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
Hi Phill,
I'm a big fan of the Bounty myself and I see you have a copy of McKay's Anatomy book...worth it's weight in gold for anyone building this ship
Here's a link to the construction of a very nice set of Quarter Galleries (very helpful build log for people that like to upgrade their kit with custom details): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/230-hms-vulture-by-dan-vadas-1776-148-scale-16-gun-swan-class-sloop-from-tffm-plans-completed/page-49
And good luck with the build...you're off to a great start
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Elijah in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
Thanks Brian. Where I'm going is trying to get away from the "flat and inorganic" cast metal. I was going to try and drill out the glass areas on the metal castings and rework those. But then I noticed that they weren't actually the same - or even close to the same - as the actual ship. If what I'm aiming at misses the mark, I can always go flat and inorganic LOL
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Elijah in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
Well, good and bad today...
The galleries are progressing well but I noticed something that I had otherwise either not seen, or at least failed to register on the 23' launch.
When I looked at the galleries as I had left them last evening, I decided that I didn't like the 1mm x 1mm uprights that I'd set in place. So out they came, and I started to frame up the windows. I'll go back to the 1 x 1 for the glazing cross bars but for now...
I'd forgotten quite what a gooey medium Milliput is to work with! I tried to do as I said I was going to with the cling film... It didn't work. So I had to apply it direct to the pieces. hopefully it'll carve/sand/file OK in place. The round blobs of setting milliput, I envisage carving into the rosettes that can be seen above and below the galleries in the pictures from the book above.
Then I went back to the launch... I was quite pleased wit the progress I'd made. And then, as I say, somehow, I hadn't noticed the buckle in the hull overall. I did write to Jotika/Caldercraft. I have had no reply in a week, so I have just written again. To say that I am unimpressed would be an understatement. I sincerely hope that this doesn't reflect the quality of the larger, more complex Caldercraft kits? Has anyone else experienced such difficulties?
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Elijah in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
So the kit bashing of the 23' Launch is progressing... But I forgot to take photos before i set it aside to dry earlier, so I will post more photos another time.
But otherwise, I've been bashing the main build a bit too...
The Quarter Galleries supplied are not as authentic as I'd prefer and so I set out to make my own. I only had a couple of hours to work on them today but I got enough done to post here...
There are a fair few differences between the supplied galleries and the ones shown in "The Anatomy Of The Ship". So, using the supplied cast metal ones, I mapped out the shape onto some 1/16" basswood sheet and then cut the tops/bottoms of the bays from some scrap 1mm Ply. These were glued to the bases and then I fitted the first two uprights. I will form the rest of the framing from 1mm x 1mm walnut stock. The domed uppers and lowers to the bays, I intend to shape from milliput. I hope to mould it into place using some scraps of cling film to stop it from adhering to the wood. Once set and dry, I'll free them from place, file and sand to shape, add detail and then glue them into place. The filigree type adornments on the base will be added using relief medium - a kind of putty like paint often used for glass painting.
The frames for the windows in the bays will be made from 1mm walnut. And then I'll glaze the bays!
As I've said before... watch this space!
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Phill Elston got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
Thanks Brian. Where I'm going is trying to get away from the "flat and inorganic" cast metal. I was going to try and drill out the glass areas on the metal castings and rework those. But then I noticed that they weren't actually the same - or even close to the same - as the actual ship. If what I'm aiming at misses the mark, I can always go flat and inorganic LOL
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Phill Elston got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
Well, good and bad today...
The galleries are progressing well but I noticed something that I had otherwise either not seen, or at least failed to register on the 23' launch.
When I looked at the galleries as I had left them last evening, I decided that I didn't like the 1mm x 1mm uprights that I'd set in place. So out they came, and I started to frame up the windows. I'll go back to the 1 x 1 for the glazing cross bars but for now...
I'd forgotten quite what a gooey medium Milliput is to work with! I tried to do as I said I was going to with the cling film... It didn't work. So I had to apply it direct to the pieces. hopefully it'll carve/sand/file OK in place. The round blobs of setting milliput, I envisage carving into the rosettes that can be seen above and below the galleries in the pictures from the book above.
Then I went back to the launch... I was quite pleased wit the progress I'd made. And then, as I say, somehow, I hadn't noticed the buckle in the hull overall. I did write to Jotika/Caldercraft. I have had no reply in a week, so I have just written again. To say that I am unimpressed would be an understatement. I sincerely hope that this doesn't reflect the quality of the larger, more complex Caldercraft kits? Has anyone else experienced such difficulties?
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Phill Elston reacted to Jerry's Admiral in H.M.S. BOUNTY by Jerry's Admiral - FINISHED - Amati - Scale 1:60
Okay Dr. Per,, back to the Bounty...
But first,
J,
Jerry said to wish you good luck. He also said your team is hot and as the expression goes, his team is not. It will be fun next week when the playoffs begin.
It looks like Jerry's main problem is an allergy which has caused the problem with his eyes, He thanks everyone for their good wishes and hopes to get better quickly. He has trouble working on the model so I have been doing the best i can, a little here and a little there. I have managed to make the main topyard which I hope to attach to the mast this evening when back from school. I pray that Jerry will be okay to guide me as I found rigging the foremast very trying. We'll see.
In the meantime, I have attached a couple of photos as to our latest progress.
Charlene
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Phill Elston got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
So the kit bashing of the 23' Launch is progressing... But I forgot to take photos before i set it aside to dry earlier, so I will post more photos another time.
But otherwise, I've been bashing the main build a bit too...
The Quarter Galleries supplied are not as authentic as I'd prefer and so I set out to make my own. I only had a couple of hours to work on them today but I got enough done to post here...
There are a fair few differences between the supplied galleries and the ones shown in "The Anatomy Of The Ship". So, using the supplied cast metal ones, I mapped out the shape onto some 1/16" basswood sheet and then cut the tops/bottoms of the bays from some scrap 1mm Ply. These were glued to the bases and then I fitted the first two uprights. I will form the rest of the framing from 1mm x 1mm walnut stock. The domed uppers and lowers to the bays, I intend to shape from milliput. I hope to mould it into place using some scraps of cling film to stop it from adhering to the wood. Once set and dry, I'll free them from place, file and sand to shape, add detail and then glue them into place. The filigree type adornments on the base will be added using relief medium - a kind of putty like paint often used for glass painting.
The frames for the windows in the bays will be made from 1mm walnut. And then I'll glaze the bays!
As I've said before... watch this space!
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Mike Dowling in HMAV Bounty By Phill Elston - Amati - 1/60 - Ostensibly from the kit plans but potentially modified to "more authentic"...
Yes it's double planked. 1st layer is 1.5 X 5, second layer is 0.5 X 4. Not SO concerned about that layer as they should bend really quite easily (watch this space to see me eating my words!)
Not doing holes from here on in as I've changed to a flat based map pin as you can see from the keel / bow view above.
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Phill Elston reacted to Nirvana in H.M.S. BOUNTY by Jerry's Admiral - FINISHED - Amati - Scale 1:60
And now back to the Bounty!
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Canute in Royal Naval 4 pounder cannon Circa 1780...
Does anyone have drawings (preferably 1/60 scale - but I guess beggars can't be choosers) for 4 pounder guns as carried on the bounty? I am building the Amati model and I'm not overly impressed with the supplied cast metal carriages so I want to build some "more correct" ones. Searching the net brings up loads of 18, 24 & 32 pounders but none of the little ones!
Looking forward to your help...
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Canute in Royal Naval 4 pounder cannon Circa 1780...
Thank you. Following your build... I am not worthy!
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Phill Elston reacted to druxey in Greenwich Hospital barge of 1832 by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
The first of the two coach sides is now in the process of being constructed. These are built up in the same way as the fore and aft ends of the coach. As there is a slight curve to the sides, allowance is made for some flex between each of the three lights.
Toni: to answer your question, I'm delaying a final judgement on the degree of reflectivity of the gold until the model nears completion. Also, the photographs don't really give the effect of the actual appearance to the eye.
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Phill Elston got a reaction from Canute in Greenwich Hospital barge of 1832 by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
What... Not stuffing them for the authentic amount of bounce?? Call yourself a model maker??? :-p
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Phill Elston reacted to paulsutcliffe in Greenwich Hospital barge of 1832 by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
Great idea using the plug to form the shape, I would have been trying to do it on the actual hull, one to remember
Lovely work druxey!!!!!!!!
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Phill Elston got a reaction from markjay in Decking
Evening Hof
I too am building in 1:60 at the moment. In my case, Bounty. I am far from being an expert, though I was in the RN, I have served in ships with wooden decks (both warships and sailing vessels) and I have spent FAR too much time scrubbing them! My build is the first that I have undertaken, but I have received compliments on some of my work thus far.
I cannot remember whereabouts on the net I found the lengths to cut my deck planking but I do remember it scaled (give or take) at 8cm. I used a three butt shift pattern because it was a pattern that I had learned about during my time in the mob.
In my case, for symmetry, I drew a centre line on the supplied plywood deck base and worked either side of that. I've attached a couple of photos of my deck piece once I had cut around the edge of the deck and cut out the various hatches etc. in the ply template.
I hope this is of some use to you.
Regards
Phill
PS, I tried to simulate the caulking by running a 4B pencil along one edge/end of each plank, but it didn't really show as well as I would have preferred, so I stepped the lines in with a 4Hpencil after laying the planks. I used the same pencil to step in the treenails.
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Phill Elston got a reaction from mtaylor in Greenwich Hospital barge of 1832 by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
What... Not stuffing them for the authentic amount of bounce?? Call yourself a model maker??? :-p
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