
Kishmul
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Ras Ambrioso reacted to a post in a topic: Sternwheeler "Zulu"
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My introduction to wooden model ships came out of the blue when the Admiral bought me AL's "Scottish Maid" as a Christmas present. What a mess I made of it! Thirty years later I have learned much, but have much more to learn. Watching the posts here - those looking for help- reminds me of my early struggles. Planking and rigging problems appear regularly from the novice or first-timer and still trouble experienced builders. So, is there a place for and introductory series of kits? The first would concentrate on planking- a half-hull model, POB, mounted on a stout board (MDF) with some nice, complicated lines. Such a kit could concentrate on the planking alone and offer detailed instructions and decent wood at not too great a cost. The end result to be hung on the wall as your first step into the art. For an introduction to rigging, a section of deck around a mainmast. An MDF block extending to the width of the deck, fore and aft to encompass the required standing and running rigging, and depth to include the attachment of the chain plates, veneer planking. Full-height mast and, again, the novice learns a lot and ends up with a displayable object. With such skills acquired relatively cheaply, our newcomer can approach a complete, POB, vessel with much more confidence than many of us have on our third or fourth build. Or, is the desire to start with a full-on, 1:96, HMS Victory, too hard to resist? Even when (as has been suggested elsewhere) the majority languish uncompleted. Just an idle thought-what do you think? Ken
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Kishmul reacted to a post in a topic: L'ARTÉSIEN 1762 by Jack H - 1:48 - 64-gun POF model by cnc
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Steamboats and other rivercraft - general discussion
Kishmul replied to Cathead's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Casting the net further around the world, check out www.pandaw.com for some contemporary rivercraft (built as recently as 2013) based on sternwheeler designs from the 1880's. This is where I am headed for this year's project. Ken- 281 replies
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Did all topsail schooners have ratlines on both masts?
Kishmul replied to Cathead's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I don't know, but as ratlines are the means of getting aloft and the crew need to get aloft I'd say yes.- 18 replies
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Here, in the UK, the cheapest (inevitably) come from China, but the quality is acceptable if you are prepared to wait a month or so for delivery. Many are labelled "PCB Mills" (Printed circuit board) for the electronics market and can be found on Amazon with standard 3.2mm shanks and a mill size down to 0.25mm. The price can be worryingly cheap - around a tenth of that of UK suppliers- but, with care, they work well. Below 1mm dia I have only used them as drills, above 1mm they perform well as mills. Ken
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The grain will also depend on how the planks or billets were sawn from the original log. In English this is known as "conversion" and there are four principal methods.- through and through, flat (or plain) and quartersawing (modern or traditional). Each method has both strengths and weaknesses and the conversion method is chosen to suit the intended purpose. Terry Porter's book "Wood Identification and Use" is a fine resource and will introduce readers to a vast range of woods to consider for use. Ken
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Copper tape
Kishmul replied to Dan_L's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Try a web search for copper slug tape. It has an adhesive backing and is easily cut. I have used this before. If nothing else it is cheap enough to give it a try at no great loss. Ken -
I agree on the 0 errors point. It must also be said that Boudroit's volumes on the 74 gun ship were never intended to be a practicum for model makers. That said, they are an essential reference for anyone who intends to make such a model. I own the English translations of Boudroit's masterwork and some of the errors may derive from that, whilst all the drawings are scaled, that the dimensions vary from French "pieds" to metres requires concentration. As an example, the width of the keel varies along the length, in several drawings this is not shown, the width being the same as at midship. No, I have not built a 74, perhaps I never will, but I have begun to tackle the project in 3D CAD. No, I do not think that I cannot build a 74 because of the errors, I simply have to surmount them. I have my (many) doubts about my wood working ability but fewer about a 3D CAD "build" -errors are easier to spot and correct in the virtual environment. My point remains the same, Boudroit's books and Lemineur's plans offer, probably, the most comprehensive resource to the building of a 74. Though not without inevitable errors, their value remains. That these publications are all you need for perfection is misrepresenting the truth, there is still a lot of drafting work to be done. And skill. Time will tell as to how well I will do, probably not at all well, but the journey will be interesting, as will discussions along the road. Ken
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The website vikingship.se has an article on how to row a longship. It states they sat on chests.
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Another suggestion for hiding the wiring is to use copper tape laminated into walls or supports. 1mm ply for the interior with veneer or whatever (to scale) for the exterior with two (+ve and -ve) strips in between. Lead these down into the hull where wiring is more easily hidden. Then through the keel and supports into the baseboard. Ken
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Try searching for dolls' house lighting. These come in strips of various lengths (and number of lights) around 6mm wide and less than 2mm thick and are easy to hide. On Amazon UK search for "Topledshop" for examples and prices. They are what is going into my sternwheeler this summer. Ken
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Indeed, the NMM does not own the copyright to original 17th century plans (though they might be covered by Crown Copyright) but they do own the copyright to the photographs or scans that they have made from them.
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